Anne Chastain and Justin Gurley
Recorded
October 10, 2023
Archived
October 10, 2023
54:28 minutes
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Id:
osh000069
Description
One Small Step conversation partners Anne Chastain (69) and Justin Gurley (41) talk about their political values and explore what it means to hold institutions accountable for actions that harm others while being kind to the individuals that work for them.Subject Log / Time Code
Anne Chastain (AC) introduces herself. Justin Gurley introduces (JG) himself.
After reading JG's bio, AC asks about his activism for healthcare for all. They discuss where compromise can be reached and whether it is the system or individuals who work for the system that are "evil."
After JG mentions a quote he is guided by, "be ruthless to institutions, kind to your fellow human beings" they dive into what the definition of ruthlessness is, what accountability is, and what the goals of the institution are and what the individuals working for the institution are.
AC shares a story of being responsible for vaccine clinics in her town and the attacks she received from both sides of the political spectrum. JG acknowledges that is not the kind of accountability he thinks of when he uses that word.
Participants
- Anne Chastain
- Justin Gurley