Ariel Gelrud and Sebastian Lozano

Recorded September 10, 2024 42:48 minutes

Id: lmn004027

Cousins Ariel Gelrud (26) and Sebastian Lozano (21) have a conversation about their Venezuelan heritage and Sebastian's first trip to Venezuela.

Sebastian Lozano (SL) describes his upbringing in Miami and how he learned about Venezuela through family.

Ariel Gelrud (AG) describes his upbringing in New York, Miami, and the trips he used to take to visit family in Venezuela.

SL recounts his first impressions from visiting Venezuela this summer.

AG recalls how he used to spend time in Caracas' Jewish community center.

AG describes his grandparents' house in Los Chorros.

AG describes how it feels to meet Venezuelans in the U.S. and SL describes the complexities of his identity.

AG describes how his ancestors adopted the Venezuelan identity when they immigrated.

SL talks about the neighborhoods he visited on his trip.

SL describes how his trip changed his understanding of his family.

SL recalls his grandmother being buried in El Cementerio.

Participants talk about Venezuelan perseverance and hope.

AG talks about the exodus of Venezuelans across the Americas and the xenophobia he's noticed online.