Lori Rausch and James (Jim) Rausch
DescriptionLori Bruggman Rausch, 67, tells husband, Jim Rausch, 68, about her life growing up in North Dakota and Minnesota. They discuss their decades-long marriage and the many moves the family made due to Jim’s career as a Kimberly-Clark executive. They also reflect on how they met and when they knew marriage was imminent.
Subject Log / Time Code
- Lori Rausch
- James (Jim) Rausch
- anecdotes (humorous but true stories)
- birth of first child
- Catholic school
- Chase Palocsik
- economic beliefs and practices
- elementary school teacher
- family naming and nicknames
- family trips and excursions
- Fort Yates
- graduate school
- Jennifer Palocsik
- Jodi Rausch
- Kimberly Clark Corporation
- Martin’s Landing
- memories of former times
- memories of growing up
- Mount Marty College
- native american
- North Dakota
- personal experiences
- political beliefs and practices
- religious beliefs and practices
- school day memories
- social beliefs and practices
- South Dakota
- Tyler Palocsik
- University of Minnesota
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00:09 I'm Lori Rausch. I'm 67 years old today is April 30th night 2010. We are at ocee library in Johns Creek Georgia, and I am speaking with my husband or sharing my story with my husband Jim Jim Rauch 68 for another 11 days. Today's date is April 30th 2010. We're in the OC Library on Johns Creek, Georgia, and I'm having a conversation with my wife Lori.
00:44 Jim you know, we've been married for over 45 years and you've been part of that extended family over my extended family over that period of time and I know you've been hearing bits and pieces that my story and it's just kind of fun to be able to have this time to sit in chair the story at a greater length of time and more concentrated on it. So I appreciate that I was as you know was born in North Dakota in 1942 to Oscar and Elizabeth broadman, and I am one of 13 children and I am number 10 and
01:27 So I guess you have known that that I grew up in North Dakota or no your father came from Switzerland. And can you talk about how he got here? Well,
01:41 His mother encouraged him to come to minutes to the United States and he was actually wanting to go to the West Coast to go to a Swiss Village weather lot of people had settled but at this story is that his mother wanted him to get away from this relationship with a French lady that was not of the same religion, but he never talked about that as much but I did hear that from another Swiss relative. So that was kind of fun to know but he came promised his mother that he would stop in and North Dakota to meet father Francis II was a cousin of his mother and father Francis was in Solon North Dakota and when he got their father Francis was not there he was in Chicago.
02:34 So my father decided to wait for him there, and the next day was Corpus Christi feast day and this man Louis Andres brought the priests there to celebrate mass and Louie met my father then and he found out my father was a baker by trade and he had been looking for a baker for where he lived in Fort Yates North Dakota. So he convinced actually kind of twisted. My father's arm to come and be a baker until father Francis came back from Chicago. And so we ended up living with
03:15 Is Louie and dress for a couple of months and Louie didn't get him back to Solon?
03:23 Very quickly because he was happy to have the baker. So he finally did meet father Francis and ended up being a baker for a whole year for lose weight.
03:36 And then ended up buying this small hotel and put in ovens Bakery ovens and rented out the rest of the hotel and then heat, you know, his whole purpose was to go to the West Coast. So Oregon was still calling him. So he thought well I cannot which was evident to me. He didn't just say I'm leaving he ended up going back to Switzerland for a quick trip and recruited another Baker.
04:09 Mister oetiker to come to Fort Yates and be the baker so then might that freed up my father to go to Oregon. Well, it ended up not working well in with the new Baker in his hotel. So my father came back after a year in Oregon and ended up settling in Fort Yates at their Baker. Where did your mom come from? Well, my mom got got into this story or she was born in Canada.
04:40 And her father was head arthritis problems, and he was encouraged to move to a warmer climate. So he moved the family to Oregon and it rain for the first three months. So that was not a happy time for them. He heard that in that the state department was giving land for homesteading.
05:06 And so he went in to Faith South Dakota in checked into property there and he was not happy with that and he heard word that the Indian agency was giving land for homesteading near Fort Yates. So he got property there and sent word to Grandma that she should bring the family.
05:31 And that in itself is quite a story because Grandma had five children at that time packed up the five children on her own and rode the train for 2 days.
05:44 To McLaughlin South Dakota, and would you think Grandpa would be there to meet her know he wasn't and she had to find housing for herself and the five children and my mother was 8 years old at that time with a family and then Grandpa eventually showed up and took her to 48 so that she was a very courageous woman I felt
06:13 And so then where did your dad meet your mom while I was in in Fort Yates then in my mother was 19 and by that time he was 29 because he was born in 1895 and arrived in the United States in 1920. And then he only married my mother in 1924. So there was that lapse of time while he was still exploring the United States and what he wanted to do and they had 13 children in North Dakota. Where did you go to school out there in the middle of the Prairie? There wasn't a lot of choices but there was a mission school. We lived near the end of Sioux Indian reservation. And there was a mission school for the Native American children and the other families the ranch.
07:13 All the other people that live there and when I think about it, we were a minority but I never knew the difference in color has a child which I think is so wonderful that there wasn't that thought about the differences between races and so on. So that was really a gift. The school was taught by the Benedictine sisters in Yankton South Dakota to Sacred Heart Convent, they are so we got that connection with those sisters and when my older brothers and sisters got to high school age.
07:53 They were sent to boarding school in Yankton my sisters were they were ten of us girls and three boys and the boys were sent to Richardson. I believe that was also North Dakota and
08:09 That misery I was thinking that might be Missouri North Dakota and
08:18 That was kind of our education there because there wasn't a high school in that Community. What kind of memories you have in your child of growing up out in the middle of the Prairies grade, but I think what what really stood out was I remember when electricity came to our farm because my father went from being a baker to being a Rancher got land eventually and took up cattle-raising in and I remember when electricity came and before that we had a wind charger and this loud motor in our basement was which was probably a generator. I didn't know that as a child. I just knew on wash day that got turned on and I was able to turn on and off their windcharger.
09:11 I remember also the tension when there was a huge Prairie Fire and the sky was covered with the smoke and my mother was really anxious and my father was gone, but it never came to our buildings that came in the Hills near but never that far. I also remember these wonderful indian pow wows and rodeos we have every summer and in the evening the Native Americans would have dressed in their full beaded costumes beating the drum chanting and we just were mesmerized by it cuz they were children from Little to the old Grandpa's and Grandma's dancing and chanting in that steady beat of the drum will always be in my memory.
10:07 I think those are that the biggest memories that I have from my childhood. Oh and one more thing we had the roundups, which was like real life Cowboys and the neighbors would come under horses and there'd where the traps and and they would bring the cattle and you could hear the cattle.
10:32 Moving before they even came over the hillside because when they came over the hillside it was the whole Hillside that was covered with cattle and they wrote the Cavs and they branded them and we children were always kept at a safe distance, but it was just against something that today. I just think of something out of the movies, but at that time it was everyday life for me and I didn't realize how very special that was when I met you. We were in Minnesota. I was going to school there. How did the family get to Minnesota play on my oldest sister Betty married my cold sore and they moved to Minneapolis and my parents were going to driving to visit them.
11:20 Fort Yates North Dakota, and they saw all the schools in a very close proximity there was st. John's University High School and University next to St. John's Abbey and within 5 miles was a Benedictine women's high school in college and 11 miles with a Catholic High School. And they just that this is where we need to bring this family and my father went to the bank at that visit just inquired about property found. It was this form so many acres with a house in a barn on it never went to look at the house at all. My mother was a saint he bought the place and moved us all.
12:12 To Minnesota and I wasn't going into the third grade at that time.
12:20 Why was education so important to them? My dad was only had an eighth grade education and my mother was 7th grade and
12:34 I can remember my dad taking me to the bank to sign the savings bonds which paid for my education and so, you know, he was planning ahead for that and all of us had the opportunity to go to college if we wanted to stem didn't something that so where did you end up going to college the funny party and I ended up going back to Mount Marty where my older sisters had gone. I was number seven who went but I did not go for high school. I went for college and the reason why I would have had to be a day student at st. Ben's st. Benedict's and I didn't want to do that. So I wanted my freedom to go away and be on my own and so I went back to my party.
13:25 You remember actually moving to Minnesota 3rd grade. I remember I mean, I don't remember any packing up of anything. But what I remember most was arriving in Minnesota. Now you remember I live in the prairie of North Dakota very few trees flat Dusty and I get to Minnesota and we're actually driving on that road that you know that Gravel Road between Saint John's Abbey and our family home.
14:00 There were so many trees. It was just like I thought I was driving through a tunnel.
14:06 The trees really weren't hanging over the road over the top but that's how it felt to me as a little girl that ate because I had never seen so many trees in my whole life and I that was my first remembrance of actually moving to, Minnesota.
14:23 The house I don't even remember seeing for the first time but the trees were really overwhelming.
14:30 So was College good experience bad experience from home and
14:40 Actually that that is when I met you actually the end of high school.
14:52 Actually, I was dating somebody else and wanted gyms classmates and he introduced me to my husband Jim and it wasn't until
15:04 I went away then he came to St. John's from South Dakota. He lived in.
15:12 Big Stone City South Dakota, and he came to St. John's to school, and I went to South Dakota to school. So we were kind of Crossing each other, but my freshman year in college. I received this Christmas card from Jim and I knew who he was, but I really hadn't spoken with him too much and it was too late for me to send him a Christmas card back. So when I got back to school
15:39 I acknowledge this Christmas card and sent him a letter and then he stroked back and pretty soon. We were riding back and forth to each other and when I got back home to Minnesota at the end of the school year, which was end of May Jim popped over at my house one day with another young couple and we went for a ride and found out that we're probably through our letters we found out to that. We were both going to be working in Minneapolis that summer and so we kind of sad would get together and and which we did and we started dating that summer and
16:22 At the end of that summer we realized we wanted to spend the rest of our lives together, but he still had school left. I still had school left. So we did Long Long Distance chords. Should I check through the years?
16:41 Well, I was going to school and she living nearby her family. She and her family would go to church at st. John's and so I spied her and just bright young gal and got interested and then I had met her at one time with one of my classmates. And so, you know, I thought I'd reach out you had a marvelous family. It was obvious and I was looking for you know what you seem to fit. So I thought it was time to find somebody and
17:20 Hey, I worked out very well. And I always refer to him as The Smiling guy from Montana and he wasn't for months, but I don't have the foggiest idea where that came from.
17:35 But it was a yeah, there was a lot of long-distance stuff in a during the summer.
17:41 My family was in the granite business in St. Cloud was kind of a center of the Granite industry. And so I'd come back from South Dakota on on Crips picking up materials and supplies and delivering things. We'd always stopping and stop and see her way to arrange the trip in a way that that we could see if I don't wish this on anybody that long-distance car trip because we didn't get to see each other as much as we'd like, but I think we learned so much about each other in our writing letters to each other. And so I think it helped us become really good friends before we got married, which we didn't know. That's right.
18:37 And then when I graduated the year before she did so I went on to graduate school at the University of Minnesota and and
18:48 And then you graduate at 6 months early or semester early and you came down in Minneapolis and start teaching and if that was the only way that we could do it because you are so poor.
19:01 Right you had school loans and I thought well if we could I could teach six months that would help and which it did and cuz you still high after we got married on May 27th 1964. You still had another year left and so it helped that I was able to start working and really those were really the best years of Our Lives or live from paycheck to paycheck and then I had to go in the service because I have been an ROTC and and after I got out of graduate school we
19:40 I went in that military and served. I want to surviving on $300 a month for for 2 years. But again, it was a great great couple of years spent a year in Germany.
19:53 And how did we get to Germany? How does that happen? Because that is not the usual route and one of the one of the officers in the ROTC at St. John's had gotten to know me and he said well, you know how to be in the Infantry or the artillery or the Armored Division. You know that that he said, but you have to be in a combat arm, so he encouraged me to go on the Corps of Engineers.
20:24 And then as an officer, I was commissioned when I graduated at the end as an officer you they ask you where you want to go and and everything that Vietnam was starting to heat up at that time. And everybody said, well, you never get a chance to go to Europe you might as well put down something else and I said, well it says here. What's your first choice? So I put on Germany because my background my parents see my grandparents Cynthia on both sides were from Germany and
20:53 On the whole we got Germany. So and then of course we were only there a year was supposed to do the whole tour over there and when they they are a year and then when I got transferred to Southern California, but that was a good time. We met some really special people in Germany and people that we still are in today.
21:18 Combat engineer as we spent a lot of time in the field. So the men were together working and the women were together back at the
21:27 Back at the post. So I said that that was all before children for most of us are married at that time and some of the women were there for with a special service full services and teachers and did substitute teaching at the independent school at that time, too. But I really think those were treasure X and and coming back to the US you've just kind of dodged.
22:02 Going to Vietnam to and when we got out of the service, I was pregnant with Danny and you without a job me to read right that was a little scary time for us to I remember a couple of months since you always send that you were able to get the job with Kimberly Clark and work for them for 1:32 years, and that was lots of moves for our children. But I think those were learning times for them to I think Jodi at says the most that
22:38 That they weren't always fun times, but she felt that it really helped her when she was older to be able to adjust to changing conditions new companies are new peoples are a real organizations or what-have-you height. And so that many friends we met again and your first assignment in California and then Neenah, Wisconsin and Ohio from Ohio. We went to Birmingham for someone wants Fort Alabama. And then let's see where else can I go from here and Atlanta and then they assignment to London England. That was a gift for Jody. Is there a flea but Jenny was a junior at that time, but year was at 1988. She better Junior at Rice University.
23:38 Was suddenly realizing we were moving away from her for the first time in her life. I remember that that she was very excited and then all of a sudden thought I'm not moving away. They are moving away from me. And I remember she had a little hard time with that for a short while although she did move with us then for the summer only cuz she had to go back to school. When did she have that surgery on her foot? So when we were actually she even when we were actually going for a house hunting trip to London to find a place to live and she tore her ligament and her ankle and she did not want us to delay that trip because she wanted us to find a place so she could go with us for the summer to remember
24:25 Helped her through that surgery without us and I still struggle with the fact that we did that but she insisted in it probably was okay, but it would have been nice to have been there for her and Jody wasn't went to a school for the first time without any teachers saying are you as smart as your sister Jenny? And so she finally had a school that was created around Turf. She could be her own person. That was a real gift for her too. So I think are many moves.
25:02 Reading have helped Through The Years met some wonderful wonderful people.
25:08 They are still in forgot times and that are still in contact with most of them right of letter writing. And now I feel such a law with emails and cell phones and that we just don't have that really sharing up Life's like we used to do and I I am sad for our our girls for that reason that they won't be writing and sharing about their own feelings in cuz everything is in little bits and pieces Facebook and
25:47 Emails probably not even as my Gmail is a text messaging which is always abbreviated and and very short so
26:00 It's a different life today.
26:03 That's true. That's true.
26:08 So when did you know Jim was the one?
26:15 I got the idea to his writing for one thing his letters. He always seemed to have time for writing and I always had to study and he would be sending me a a note almost every single day and not get these letters not feel so bad that I didn't have the time to write letters like he did and but that summer I think we we didn't have much money.
26:40 And I was working in Minneapolis and wanting to save that money for school and spending money at school and Jim was working and he was also had bills. So we spent a lot of time walking around the parks in around the lakes in Minneapolis Lake Harriet Lake of the Isles. I can remember all the Lakes names but we just spent a lot of time walking and talking and I think that it just came out of matically I think at the end of the summer there just wasn't even a question that it was anybody else. I wanted to share my life. I have the same feelings. We kind of concluded on that.
27:23 Similar time frame when you wrote to him saying that you had met me or you would wanted to I think that you wanted to marry me. He never wrote much but he wrote to you that you still have that letter or somewhere and it didn't because we both felt strongly that we have to finish up and I don't think that was a bad choice in the wash. My net Brady was the right thing even though you know, I got I became an elementary teacher. I didn't teach that long but it did help provide actually down payment for our first house after you get out of the military.
28:17 My teaching at the dependent School help me save that and we're able to put a down payment on our first little house in Northern California with Kimberly-Clark. All 17,000 or was it? I don't know. How much is $500. That's right about 3/4 of an acre of land it was
28:52 It was 17,500. That was at the down payment. No, no, no. No, that was the cost of the house.
28:58 Yes, yes.
29:04 Stop doing. What was he working? Where actually he was a baker when he came back from Oregon and that man who had taken over his for the bakery in Fort Yates. That didn't work out. So my father went back to being a bakery in this small hotel that he had done before he went to Oregon and while he was there he started to see the ranchers were the Cattleman seem to have all this time hanging on the bar coming in for their drinks, you know Cowboys get Thursday to and he thought what an easy life they have and he started to that's what he tells us and told us.
29:54 I threw the years but I'm really not sure if that was the real reason but he started to go to the bank and find property. That was I'm not sure if it was real. What would you call when the bank reclaim foreclosed foreclosure and he was able to get some property and then moved from the hotel and being a baker cuz then Mr. Oetiker had his own Bakery in his own house. And so my father felt free to go into another business which was cattle-raising and moved all of us out to five miles from the city and I was not born at that time. So really I didn't have Playmates out where I was it was five miles from town.
30:44 And the nearest neighbor was a couple miles. We couldn't even see their their cattle ranch and a bunch of siblings. And I remember my Playmates were my younger brother Johnny. I'm going to call her Johnny cuz that's how I knew a mess when I was in third grade and my sister Baby Sister Rita. We lost a baby between Rita and John Patricia, and she only lived a couple months, but so I don't remember her at all.
31:18 But we were very creative with our playing and I remember cutting out paper dolls out of the Sears catalog and I know my kids laugh at that because I can't imagine I must be really ancient if I did things like that, but that's what I did and I'd find other other figures within the catalog so I could cut out dresses off of those figures to wear on the on the person that I cut out to be my paper doll.
31:54 We made glue out of flour and water and we cut out cartoons and pasted them and magazines to make our own cartoon books. You know, I think we were really quite poor.
32:12 Having ready cash, but we were never hungry because we had cattle we had chickens we had pigs. So we had eggs. We had milk. We didn't have a lot of outfits for clothes. I remember neighbor lady so dresses for us out of the flour sack fabric, which was beautiful patterns cotton and two sisters above me Claire was two years older than I and Anne was 3 years older.
32:54 Their dresses got passed down to me, but it wasn't that they were the same dress. I had they had different pattern dresses. So it's kind of like a new dress for me, but I never felt I never felt poor. I never felt lacking. Maybe that's why we match so well because I come from a very very, you know, we were we were you have to say we were poor but we always have enough to eat and we always had closed and we never knew we were poor and I think we both felt loved you, but you're right. I think that did we did it was a good match because we both felt the same about life and probably our kids are probably still say we're Frugal, but that's okay. That's okay. That's right. And that's my Swiss upbringing the the Swiss are known for being Frugal, but I think the fact that we were able to have what we had because
33:57 We didn't need a lot and I think that's why today we still don't need a lot because we're fortunate. We were the families we came from.
34:10 Is how many siblings did you have for their was five of us and I was second oldest and had two brothers and two sisters and older brother and then a younger brother and two younger sisters, and then you had to work your way through school.
34:31 Thank you for your floor assistant or so. I had jobs all the time during school and and during graduate school. I didn't know how it's going to make it because that wasn't in my plan until I run into a an interviewer when I was finding a looking for a job as a senior and he convinced me I needed to go to graduate school and
34:55 And the only one that was foggiest chance of affording was University, Minnesota. So I went there and I think the first day in marketing class the which I had with the head of the marketing department in The Graduate School. He asked if anybody was looking for work because he needed a teaching assistant and so I stuck up my hand and got that and then when I found a place to live somehow the owner, I guess he asked I don't know if he had he asked me and I don't know why but he he needed he had 20 20 of us. How did you find the place to live? Cuz it was on Washington Avenue. But there are like 20 of us living on the top of the second floor of this building in the bottom floor was a Mexican restaurant.
35:51 And the owner said there I have enough people here. So the university requires me to have a representative that they're going to they're going to hire or their you're going to be their representative. Make sure everything is kosher here. And if I would do that and go to whatever meetings and report that I whatever I have to he give me free free room to pay for it over there. No, I wouldn't get bored but a free room ship so then I scraped through school. That's right. Cuz I remember you had to scrape really to bring it up by me that ring get a real was alone on that one. I think I said, so I'm not sure I don't remember now.
36:47 How did you propose?
36:51 When was it was it Thanksgiving in in your in your aunts place in Minneapolis? My sister you come to mount Marty to pick me up. No, I think Betty's husband Mike. My brother-in-law came to pick me up at Mount Marty which is 320 some miles away and brought me to their house and you came over from school from University of Minnesota and propose to me and him up that yeah. No, actually I knew we were getting married. So I thought he's going to have to ask me pretty soon. And actually he knows he came to mount Marty.
37:49 In October or November for our homecoming.
37:53 And I was kind of hoping you would ask me then and he did say he had his a ring with my ring with him at the time.
38:03 But he didn't know when was appropriate or the right time or not. So he came and went and no proposal. No, I didn't remember that. I had the ring at that time, but might have owned it at that time by maybe you didn't have it with me, but I thought you maybe had it with you. And so I had to wait until Thanksgiving, so I wasn't even expecting it at Thanksgiving cuz I've kind of given up cuz I really wasn't sure when he was going to ask me to marry him. So and then divide that point. I was going to be finishing school in January and would be joining him in Minneapolis, and I ended up sharing a having a room at a widow lady's house near the school. I taught at incarnation in South Minneapolis.
38:58 And she had posted at school that she had a room for a teacher and so I live there and within walking distance of school for until the end of that year and then I got another job at another school. We got married that to you and unfortunately at that time in the Catholic schools, especially the pastor failed that when you get married you have children and they did not like to have pregnant teachers.
39:38 In 1964 for
39:43 I'm so grateful that has changed and so I had to find another school that would be willing. If I got pregnant. I would still be able to continue teaching.
39:54 And I didn't get pregnant and then we so I taught in White Bear Lake.
40:00 And I'm trying to think of the name of the Catholic school was Saint Pius, I think but I'm not positive far too. Many years have too many places and
40:14 From there. We went to Fort Belvoir, Virginia and started our military Draper.
40:26 Kimberly-Clark has got all of its industrial businesses are located here. And so somehow in the process of my being transferred around I got asked to come over here with a job promotion and what have you and we ended up here and ended up in a wonderful neighborhood in Roswell.
40:51 In 1981 and it was almost all the people at that live there moved in within a someplace else and they moved in within six or eight months many had children same ages as our kids and so the neighborhood gel the kids the kids got together. It was there was a grade school within the development in Martin's Landing neighborhood school when they were both. So yeah to know the parents of the children that are children were playing with an gonna go with you and and we also found a wonderful Church.
41:31 It was within three or four months. It was home. It was the neatest neatest move we have made in however many moves but 10 or 12 moves before that. Actually when we moved here in the South the Catholic church was a minority and it still is I think it was only like what 4% and today it's already been split into three other parishes have split off from that, but we're at thirty-five hundred families now, so it's yet big that much more special very much an Outreach people called us to do things that we never thought we would ever have the courage to do and
42:31 Make it we became different people as result to that.
42:35 Last question
42:45 Oh, that's tough.
42:49 I don't think that when I was little that I ever would have imagined I would have been traveling as much as I did in and experience so much of the world because my little world was North Dakota to Minnesota and my very first trip on an airplane was from Minnesota to Germany to meet Jim in the Army. I had never been on an airplane before and I think the opportunities that have come my way.
43:22 Really have been.
43:24 Things I never would have imagined.
43:28 Yeah, I seem similarly growing up as a young kid in North Eastern South Dakota. My dad was in a family business, but it was it was with the granite business Corey and granite in large chunks out of the ground to use for building or memorials or things like that course now that you know that the rage everybody knows granite countertops butts.
43:58 You know even through high school I didn't I knew I wanted to get into business.
44:03 Irie, love science early on and and started college and physics and it only took me one semester to decide that that was a disaster and Butt-head. I have a wonderful counselor that through some testing. He thought it'd be best to try accounting finance and business and I just fell in love with immediately saw it went very fast, but I had no clue that yeah travel. I was very very lucky and successful in business and I didn't know beyond my wildest dreams and it's just been very very fortunate. So,
44:49 And the world is better than good place our last better at together. I've been a good we've got two wonderful Girls It's been a
44:57 It's been a real blessing.
45:02 I do not think about your name Lori. My mother gave me the name Loretta and there was a neighbor named Loretta. Well, you know if I'm Number 10 child in the family, let's see that would have been number 8 daughter. I think it was to come up with new names. So that's what I forgive my mother for name and me Loretta, but when I was in elementary school The Good Sister is Franciscan sister abbreviated my name on this little newsletter that we'd get once a month or once a weekend.
45:46 If she abbreviated l o r e and I thought oh, that's a good name. That's look like Lori and so I change the E to I in eighth grade at that was really cool. And I have been Lori ever since and I'm not Loretta and not Loretta and when people I get a phone call Loretta on the phone. I know it's usually something business because even legal or illegal to my social security is Lori. So which could complicate my life someday, but a lot of my friends don't know my given name forgive me, Mom and
46:35 It's just a name. I have enjoyed being and most people know me as Lori. I think I'm already rather than that, Loretta.
46:47 Oh goodness. I think for people to be open to all other people to give people a chance. We met wonderful people first impressions. Let go of First Impressions and just keep your heart open to new friendships. We have made just some wonderful wonderful friends and I wouldn't part with any of them agree with that all and be open to whatever life brings. It's all marvelous.