Ulysses Elijah, Nancy Lehrer , and Sarah Blanton

00:04 My name is Nancy Lara. I am 49 years old. It is April 23rd 2016 and we are in Atlanta Georgia and I am here with my dear friends Sarah and Ulysses.

00:22 My name is Sarah Blanton. I'm 50. It is April 23rd 2016. I'm in Atlanta Georgia, and I'm here with my friends dancing in the Olympics. My name is Ulysses. I miss 6 + 459 +

00:44 Atlanta, Georgia

00:55 And just who you're here with well here with Max and Leo and

01:02 Sarah

01:11 So Ulysses

01:13 You and I have known each other for a long time.

01:18 I'm up physical therapist and I work at a hospital where you had where you spent some time maybe.

01:31 Talk about

01:33 The time you spent in the hospital and we can start there.

01:40 You okay? So when I got to the hospital as I was in the hospital for about two months. Two months and a half.

01:49 And so this young lady named Laura Johnson, I think she trained for it from Shepherd spinal center to work with me and to show me all the things that I need to do and how to take care of myself. And so she was very good. She worked me hard, you know in a few very very very strict. She was very hard filters some great fire Allura. And so Laura make sure that I know how to get out of the bed how to dress myself how to take a bath when I'm in the tub how to do my exercise how to do my shift while I'm in the bed and and case was on fire. I can get down the stairs or hot get out of the window. So she she was very very hard in in

02:45 Laura

02:46 Bro, I can remember the Lord brought this long to whip me and show me how can a while I'm there in the bed. I can work on my upper body strength. So you show all me all kind of stuff that I can stay strong hot vent bed sores all kind of stuff that she showed me what job did a job that well, so I really appreciate Laura for helping me out cuz and I talk it I didn't take it lightly cuz I knew it was going to be a help to me one then he knows cuz I never been in a wheelchair.

03:25 Then I didn't know what to do. And so she told me on it and think that she taught me.

03:31 I'm doing it and it's been over 20 20 something years and I had not had a bedsore, you know, so and then I stay by myself in if a dubia fine. I hope I don't I think I have the upper body strength that get down the steps so climb out of one. I might break a little something but I think I can get out and you know, I'm grateful that I got to read Hobbit, you know that I can put my wheelchair on the side up in this left myself open the bed. So so so thank that she taught me to give a baby baby very helpful to me and the thing that she taught me now go back to the hospital and share with us pain injury.

04:17 And I let you young guys are young ladies that I talk to at gravy's or maybe at curfew that I bought into that. You know that these young ladies and gentleman here to help you two to be better, you know to make sure you take care of yourself and

04:37 Improve yourself cuz you never know. You might have to live by yourself. Then. You know what you're not saying that you can't pin on your family and family is good. But you want to be able to do so many things on your own you can put your clothes on so you can take a bath be for my fault self. I have to be careful. I get I don't have a I can get it. I got a shower stool, but I put my wheelchair in the bathroom and I took myself out of the Chilean to the bad. So you got to be very careful, you know, cuz I don't want to let them know that you know, you got to be very careful so you can do this, but you just have to pay attention when Italians I think some of them want to hear.

05:17 Tell Mom to be going to be late stood this is laying the bed sometime you had to go get them but and I'll park and I think it's very helpful. So so I appreciate Laura.

05:27 You mentioned using a wheelchair and a spinal cord injury. Could you?

05:35 Tell us a little bit more about why you use a wheelchair what what your abilities and challenges are with your body T12 and I'm paralyzed from waist down and so I'm not able to walk right now, but I got great upper-body strength got great up by the Scranton, you know, cuz

06:00 Good morning, Cowden.

06:03 Andre not got great upper-body strength, cuz I work out and I try to eat healthy and take care of myself and I'll let Sumner.

06:12 Daughter spinal injury know that you know that

06:18 Electric chair is great. But I think it's a manual chairs much better cuz I like a check and easy break down on you.

06:28 And then you going to be sucked in the house, but you push that manga chair that's going to help you upper body to be much stronger. But if you said that in this push that button or the time y'all don't get weak and all that stuff. So I think that's not a good thing. Yeah.

06:48 Petit trois

06:51 Who is it to 12 is my Lord. My Lord body level is is NACA don't have no feeling in my lower body in a T12 that mean that my upper body stretches. Great. I think that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I think this girl that's mean that I don't have no feeling in my lower body and but my upper body have all the strength. I have all the screen. So that's what a T12 is cuz you can use your off a box. You can hit me up in your to Twitter at me. I can use my hands swell and all that stuff. I can use my muscles are in an answer this in this world at which well, yeah, she is short for thoracic and the 12th thoracic vertebrae is at the bottom of the rib cage pain in the lower back just above the lumbar vertebrae.

07:54 I have a question. It might be a hard question to answer but I have sound working as a physical therapist with people who have new injuries to their spinal cord. It's it's devastating. It's life-changing one minute. They were fine and the next minute they've had a devastating injury that that changes our life and right from the beginning the doctors have to talk to them about will this is your injury in this is what happened and you're not going to walk again.

08:31 And

08:34 So often

08:37 Understandably people are willing to accept that they deny that they reject it. They are certain that yes. In fact, they are going to walk again and I'm curious Ulysses when

08:49 Did you have the realization that?

08:54 You wouldn't walk again, or maybe you haven't had that realization may be what it what are your thoughts about that?

09:01 Where what when the doctors told me?

09:05 That I probably will never walk again. And I think one of my sister was there on my mom's side and

09:14 She worked at the great for like 40 years. She said and I think I remember my sister said well.

09:21 You did it to yourself.

09:24 Now you don't have to do what you need to do.

09:27 And the show with my sister say that I know I had messed up. And so now I'm about to make another change in my life. I was doing all kind of style and I know I had messed up I had disappointed my family, but I'm at this point to some friends probably at this point of myself, too, but I didn't realize it but now I realize that I'm in a place now I came out. I cannot be doing the things that I'm doing now now I need to change my lifestyle living.

10:02 And so from there I still got need a chain. And when and when the doctor said that and I made that tells me that change that's when I think of Laura came in and she said you can get in all different type of sports.

10:20 And

10:23 But it when the doctor say that I don't think I was stressed out about it. I think I'm okay. I just have to do what I got to do. But it also saw a help change that cuz if I thank you if I would have got in some kind of spoils.

10:39 I had some kind of support I probably would have ended back. I may be on drugs or something like that in the wheelchair went back to drink it, but once I got

10:51 Focus maybe getting some sports and going out training that's all the set. That's all I've got my eyes opened up a little bit and especially when I know I'll see what I can do.

11:06 To nobody in this wheelchair so somewhere maybe I can help somebody down the line and so I just hung in there and so once I got the racing a disc took all that stuff, it wasn't easy.

11:23 Sometime cuz I thought about some stuff when I was in the hospital and all that stuff.

11:29 But I did not go back out drinking and drugging and all that stuff, especially when I know that I had some support with me cuz I had other I had Laura hadn't came in my life and then the guy named John had came with my life. Then Nancy came along beside me and when you got some folks males and females send you can do this. You can do this with all the support around you and you got to family. My family would disappointed me, but I know they love to me.

12:10 But it's all to come alone with salad and had a church family came up on the side of it. So that has all the health kept me going kept me going. And so I had to do what I had to do it. So I'm not low back. So Laura and John are also physical therapist John head office Roswell. He's so weird chairs and John used to

12:41 He was happy. He got it, but he got some when he they got me a new wheelchair and so he

12:49 Help got me going in was coming from Roswell everyday. I didn't Decatur's picking me up.

12:59 Give me ready for the Peachtree Road Race in 1994.

13:04 Taking me well backup by 10 MI.

13:08 Outside rep Roswell

13:11 Drop me off 10 miles outside of this office in The Boondocks somewhere for somewhere in the Boondock with all kind of heels.

13:26 Tabu

13:27 Years ago, black phone couldn't go out that way. I'm just that's what's in my book Tucson rifle can go out there years ago, but

13:38 And he dropped me off. So you need to be back to his office no later than an hour or 45 minutes called back there. And then in the steel is you have to do the real cherish the wheelchair off the P Sweet Roll Ray. You have to be off too cools no later than 45 minutes. If they don't if you are not off that course in 45 minutes, they don't come pull you off that, so I hate I could not get pulled off that cord. So I had to finish that piece you so he dropped me off so I had to be back to his off no later than 45 min the house. And so that's what happened. And so and I qualify for the Peace Tree out of no way that drop safe. See you when you started my first coat say see you later. He did it cuz he wanted me to go see he want him to see me go somewhere. He didn't want to meet be in that same.

14:37 That I was a while back and so ended and I can really eat John going on the glory now. So and I can hear Johnny my brain. He said what w do don't ever quit in race. And so yeah, so

14:58 Do you believe in there? Yes, he believed in me.

15:03 Nancy believe in me lower believe in me and not a lot of Mo. Leaving me now.

15:13 Just wondering if you know that how you following up on Nancy's question about some of your journey in the in the hospital in the end when you realize that it's a big deal to live on your own. And when did you and it takes a lot of courage to do that in the end. And in that process. Did you realize that you could do that again? And what was that?

15:51 Why I got his wish I never lived on my own. I always lived with someone always a little wrong with a little bit of girlfriend. So when I came up in a line about if I said something about a letter with my mom for a couple years and then I lost my mom and I will be there with girlfriends and all that. And so when I end up in a wheelchair I ended up sitting by myself, so it was very hot. Is it hotter than ever lived by myself before I never been by my, you know, never been by myself for it. So it's been hard, but I had to realize

16:27 I didn't know what's going to come so soon, you know, but I had to take it, you know how to respond. I had to do this receiver and sometimes it's still hard Livin by myself, but I don't live in by myself. Now I enjoy living by myself. And for the last 20 years trying to be in my wheelchair out. That's what I've been doing it by myself.

16:51 Cool, make sure I make sure my house stay clean and it's not easy.

16:56 Coming home to yourself by yourself sometime you no space when you come from out of town, you know like to come home to a friend or somebody 4:30 to 5. I have to take it, you know, but it is better for me.

17:11 Copart

17:13 It's better for me. It's better for me. And it's not. Like I said, it's not easy cuz special for a man. You know, you are walking around all the same.

17:23 You can't do the things you do used to do, you know the song but I have to deal with it. You know I had to do it but now I'm old. I'm over this stuff like that, but it was good about myself before in my 59 years. I never lived by myself inspiration to have the courage to you know to overcome and and and do something this difficult, I'm too it's not easy, but it's so as I think that example to other folks have to save not only can you

17:56 Being to recover after such a devastating injury, but you know, you can gain a sense of Independence that way and what that means.

18:06 And that's what I need. I don't know how to be independent. Now, you know, it's not easy, but I'm going to learn how to be better in my 59 years. I'm I'm more independent now since I've been in the wheelchair and I've been in my life cuz I got a new switch for I got in the wheelchair you're not was pending on other thing and stuff like that. But now since I've been this with you pin on myself, you know and retina.

18:34 I'm happy about it, you know, it's not easy to some time. But is it made me to be a better man better man depend on yourself? Cuz it's not good to Penn. It's okay. It's too too low to family or church family spend some time. But you don't you don't want to hear no friends all the time. You don't want to be a church family. Definitely want to spend on family. Sometimes you need to know.

19:00 Did you can do this and do this song is so that's why I'm at now opinion on what I had to go out then work race do all what I need to do to make a living, you know make a live at so but if I'd a been very independent years ago, I wouldn't have probably been the situation on me. I'm not but now I got to keep on going to make a living.

19:31 I'm sitting here thinking Ulysses that you're giving other people a lot of credit like lower your first physical therapist and John and people from your church, but I know that it's a two-way street and you deserve a lot of the credit. Cuz when I remember you told me one time when you were in the hospital a group from a church came to visit you and you didn't have to take them up on their invitation at you when Laura started going to track practices with you. You didn't even after getting the car strap on those gloves in that tape and be in that hot Atlanta weather, but you did and I think you you're generous to give

20:20 Shout out to folks, but you deserve a lot of credit to four.

20:27 All that you've accomplished with is really pretty amazing. Do you know I do I think I do when lower it look back at cuz she just got back a couple years ago. She came back in in in in I didn't know she was back and and and you so we went to phone's off or something like that and she was so so I think in and I'll be John proud of me now you are an in and I know my family I know my family or not cuz

21:01 I got pretty good relationship with my kids got to put a good rest in with my with my family. So so but so I think I encouraged him call when I do go home. Now. My family is very proud to see me. Now. They know that I'm not out drinking. I'm not a drug and I'm not doing all that silly stuff no more and there are very proud of me. Very proud of me. And I think. And they like them and they stretch my brother and sister Bay, then I encourage them to switch my kids and stuff. So I encouraged you. What are you talking about? The house are proud of you. But if you look back on your life, what do you feel like you're most proud of what I'm most proud of imove Prado.

21:48 To think that I have come from when I had it again cuz I can't come along with I'm very proud of myself man, cuz I came from a long way.

21:59 I'm very proud of myself cause

22:03 E myring skills is not shopping need to be is much better. It was 10 years ago.

22:11 E m I'm working every damn problem getting up sometime. I go to work. I'm I'm proud of myself call some I'm not back out on drugs again. I'm proud of myself cuz I'm not trying hard in the morning, So proud of myself cuz you know, I go out in a race a train. I try to eat healthy and is you know, then got no bank account, you know, if I got in a wheelchair I didn't have no bank account and no bank account at all. Then the water bank account was cuz I was too busy spending money, but now I'm proud of myself cuz I could see the last 27 years and I've been this with you and it came from a long way and it wouldn't be for God help.

23:03 Turn it up. So, I'm very proud of myself where I came from very proud. I don't pop my don't get off this stupid, but I'm very proud of myself where I came from and I know the people around me approve. My family and friends have been proud of me, you know, so I'm looking to get better every day part of your journey. How do you feel like that's impacted?

23:31 Well

23:33 I didn't I didn't I didn't really had no kind of relationship with the Lord for I got this with, you know kind and the soul.

23:43 I can remember when when I was.

23:47 Back in the hospital. I think it was.

23:51 In 92, I can remember these two ladies when I was a pastor and one of them was one of their members.

24:00 And I had this terrible terrible bed sore on my right hip.

24:07 Yell my right heel.

24:10 The doctor could not do no skin dry.

24:18 Cause he was a very infected it was infected. That's how bad it was.

24:25 And so these two ladies came into my room and it was talking to me. It was talking to me about the head about love, but I didn't know I had no the lights in the winter when they talk to me they say why you no

24:43 These can do this. These can do this. I can do this is okay, so they prayed for me.

24:51 And she said

24:54 Pastor said she said

24:57 We going to bring you a bottle or when you come back when we come back and so did brought this bottle of and it came back and they said she was telling me see every time the doctor made a nurse.

25:12 Clean this bed. So put a little oil around it.

25:17 Happy

25:19 What motor did inner-city I do it?

25:23 2 weeks later

25:25 They have heal up and it was it was eight down to the bone. It was fate. I'm just it was eight. You can stick your fishing. That's how bad day that right here. Where was really you can stick your hand in there. You can feel the bone in that that little bone in it and two weeks later.

25:47 It was healed up and then so the doctor.

25:51 This skin dropped on custom skin off my helping patch it up and it was

25:58 It was God. It was fixed Cent and they had NetSpend over has been over 20 years and I have been so thin so so that's what really got my niece. Okay, maybe it is Jesus or God. So so that's got me. That's really got me. I have some faith in that. I must have had something cuz it's healed up and the Dachshund.

26:22 They what they need to do for and it's been over 20 years and so 9 that's in since I've been having that walk going to church every Sunday and got saved if it's increase my faith what I do, I don't go out.

26:38 Out of my house

26:40 All right there on that bike unless I ask the Lord to help me but take me out there and give me something cuz I know and I know I've came to a point now. I cannot do it by myself. So he helped me and so he give me where I'm going and then get me back. I don't talk about it everyday to folks but I do try to lie his light to shine in me. That's I think that's will get me through.

27:08 It's not easy.

27:12 But I try to share my face. That's what get me through. You know, you know cuz yeah.

27:22 Tell us about Tom some of the places you've been especially when you've been racing some of your favorite races and some of the places that you've traveled to.

27:34 Remember when I did peace create did P sweet that's in Jordan. I can be Monday before we had.

27:42 We was going up in Boston. I think it was we had a tournament up in Boston, Massachusetts years ago. That's when a guy named Jimmy green and Stacy green. It was mad. It was Matt and no.

27:57 Best on the shepherd team and they was telling me that.

28:03 We had to fly and I never had fluid for from the country boy and and I was all scared cuz I never had got on a big plain white rhino have to at all having a little small sphere planes, but it was a strong that but anyway, and so I was a little shaking and so

28:29 What we left after we left that Friday, it's been many years ago. And so I was fine when I was at airport.

28:39 I was fine when they was born us on the plane. I was fine when we was sitting at the gate.

28:47 I was fine when I when we will we will send the starting line at the at the line.

28:55 But what Shelton wrote up real bad when the airplane we're going down that field running me about 200 miles an hour in it and it chipped up in the air like that.

29:05 Slow I thought I had them you know what I did but that was scared me that was scared me but once it got off it when they got in the air and got love all this good and so once we got up at up to Boss Metal, I got to meet all kind of

29:22 All kind of athlete some guy said I never thought I meant

29:27 This guy named LL Mill and Mill is auto at least and all that stuff like that Lee hang. I think Lee any was there or kind of like that but

29:41 Eagle bars guys and guys in wheelchairs and all that kind of stuff. So that was very excited to me football sit in and then I went to the LA Marathon that was 1995. That was very sight for me the LA Marathon. So I would have first time I did the LA Marathon. Yeah 19th 2005 to 95. It was a very excited for me cuz I it was it was a long push cuz I never did hear did a 26-mile marathon. And so I thought it was going to do at least spot 3 hours, but I was shocked I did it in 1 hour and 55 minutes. So I was very shocking so so so so like LA and Autumn Place a bid to Chicago and enjoy going to Chicago now. I'm going to Spokane wash out of men thin places a lot in Myrtle Beach me to go to Myrtle Beach every year so I can do all that, you know going to wait now, I'm just

30:41 I wanted to go for this year, but don't like it. Don't happen. I want to go to Japan do the Japan marathon, but I have not Marisol Timmy fell in play like a want to so hoping 2017. I will be make it but this year I will be going to I'm leaving Spokane Washington be here there from April 29th to May 2nd and I come back from Spokane, Washington. Be headed up there now.

31:11 Ben Affleck, Ben Affleck in from May 13th to May 15th. So it may not be the first time. That's a 25k and 15 Mile. So I'm excited about that. I miss saying about Spokane when I get there in time. So I miss part about all my race. I didn't get in cursive. So I enjoyed

31:37 Ulysses you

31:39 Wrote a book

31:42 And I'd love to know.

31:45 How

31:47 What message you hope that that book shares with other people who have disabilities as well as maybe like your children and grandchildren. What what message do you feel like it has are you hope that it has four people who I know right now.

32:12 This book and don't make no money is a dollar made it will one day, you know, that would be great. That would be great. But I liked it when folks read this book male or female read this book are young people 200 some going to be going through some maybe some drug problem. I'm having some problems in their homes are having some problems in 8 on life may be having property. Chill.

32:40 Don't drug so inkaholik.

32:45 I'm hoping that when they read this book that they will see if

32:53 If it got changed this guy to come van a place so far.

33:00 He can help me.

33:04 I noticed but can't save them. But I hope I hope in this book will help change that weighs.

33:12 Cuz she's booked already have some folks cuz I have some I had.

33:20 I've done called. Don't call me and say I can't put this book down here. It really helping me. So I hope this book will it help change some people I spaced out Young Folks petsch. I am four cuz I owe me is not what color your day. They need some help in in jail. I don't know Street, and then I hope in this book will Falling maybe in the jailhouse. What's up with my dad? Just some of the young people's young boys can read. This book are young ladies going to be books and take a hold on to it, and hoping that I change a line, you know, if you look at me hoping that they'll see me one day to see if he can change I can to for it too late.

34:05 What's the name of the book Ulysses Elijah?

34:11 Stover

34:14 Ulysses Elijah's story

34:18 Fell off 6th story from thieves to wheelchair race

34:23 42 wheelchair race

34:33 When you look ahead to the Future Ulysses, what is the future hold for you for me?

34:43 I think in my brains, I think it future. Hope I don't hold a great things from I think it's I'm looking to be around here.

34:55 When I'm like honey a hundred years, so I'm I'm I'm receiving them claim that I'm 59 years old. And and if I would have kept on going to where we're going I would have never be so now I think it's goddamn gave me are in the future and gave me another opportunity. I want to I think I'm going a long ways. I have not seen nothing yet what I bought but I think I'm I think the future hold a great things for me right now, but I just need to focus and do what I need to do.

35:31 Ain't no telling where I be might be in 2017, but I think I hold a great for me, but I'm not going to give up that today. Yeah.

35:45 You had a message for for the folks that are going through difficult times, but would you because of the the journal also as for clinicians and students coming up if you do you have any particular words of wisdom or advice for our young rehab students of physical therapy student or an occupational therapy sitting anywhere for them as her to you at this nursing home gray the nursing home and I see I was telling me it's nothing but a couple people that went into throat.

36:25 When I've stopped wanting to that great and there's home, Malaysia.

36:30 I saw a lot of folks came in that would I mean they was hands are messed up my phone messed up down to three months later. They look like brand new people's and and I know these people like dancing you doing me feel so I think it's a great thing. I think that y'all do know her blessing you it just it just a chain thing when you see what how you use your gift. And if I guess at five or six years of college I8 years of college do it is is is amazing. It's amazing. So for them young fitter 35 think is they just don't know how blessed day off work in the hospital inpatient stuff like that and some of them knew someone do know when someone might don't know.

37:23 But I think folks like Madison other folks, they realize that it's it's just when you can see what they are doing when folks come in there all messed up and they go back out all fresh and new life ain't nothing wrong. That's that's great. That's great. Cuz I try to get one of my granddaughter doing so you just don't know how I how they can be a help to 2-minute people's I think they do a great job. So whatever they do that's hanging in there, you know, cuz I see

38:00 BFF that graders now that I see when I go down there and visit, you know, and I think they are Abundant Life National the latest down there up on this sumbitch good training and some good support. So hang in there you can do it.

38:22 Going back, but do you have any you mentioned some of your therapy in the exercise and getting up and down any?

38:33 Other specific stories you remember like something that maybe was really good or something what that was like? Oh no that was related to having a therapy physical therapy.

38:46 Was it hard if you're saying but maybe just something was a memory that you have that sticks out maybe cuz it was maybe it was really hard or maybe it was really a breakthrough.

38:58 What I can remember what when what will Red Wolves were they got me something you don't want to get up and do you feel tired but you got to do it cuz it happened you but what really got me, when when when when when when lower brought them to roasts up like that and put on my bed and and I can lay right there on that bed and do bugs cease exercising make body strong. So that was very respond to me cuz you know I'm looking for I got got used to it and I would I know I will working at upper body strength and all that and what really got me up when they used to come down.

39:35 Inform and get me in the wheelchair and take me down on 4th floor then and in working with my legs and walk with my arms. I was excited for me cuz I know it was happening. I don't think I was

39:49 I don't think I wasn't very hot. Very disrespected to the number to Rafi Roar. Nobody then. I think I receive it cuz I know it was going to help me cuz I know I hadn't went into a place that I needed some help. I realize that I need some help and I need to receive it. So it was good. It was getting it was good getting out of wheelchair getting on the bed and she would show me how to do my Shivan and how to lift up and all that stuff. So it's it was very well help take care of it. So I enjoy doing that. It was a sign of doing it. Maybe I don't think I would say it now in town in the house, but I don't think I can't remember. Maybe I was but I can't remember my thing was great.

40:38 Cuz you know you got somebody like Laura.

40:42 She was she was a child. She didn't usually going to do it or don't do it. Go back to the room so you don't want my help. Okay. Going to make it and that's what Laura, Laura.

41:08 Do you have anything else here? I want to say that you didn't get to.

41:16 We got this word wrap up song.

41:28 What what I can say now, I'm very grateful to the think that I'm doing now. I'm proud of myself and I'm proud of the folks around me.

41:45 Cuz I know if I wouldn't it.

41:49 If I wouldn't have had the people around me, I probably wouldn't make him today telling this story.

41:57 And in so so people around me that they still see something in me that mail I can't say sometime.

42:06 Cuz when I guess when Nancy got this call or whatever, she called me a couple weeks ago and you know it say where you so sure and I think I would do it cost NASA, you know, cuz I know she wouldn't leave me down that wrong road and I know she will always take me to a place going to help me. So so I think for her I really do you know.

42:32 So, like I said, I would have never I probably would have been in there probably on some more. I don't have some more interview but not like you did but now it's good. I'm great.

42:46 That goes for me to Ulysses. I've been places that I wouldn't have been argon if it wasn't for you. So, thank you.