Dorris Calhoun and Jonathan Kelley

Recorded August 12, 2020 Archived August 12, 2020 52:21 minutes
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Dorris Calhoun (73) talks to her friend Jonathan Kelley (48) about her memories of growing up in the North Lawndale neighborhood of Chicago, being a choir director at Stone Temple Baptist Church, her education, her work as a medical transcriptionist, and her family.

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DC talks about being born in Mississippi. She talks about her grandparents buying their own property during Sharecropping days. She describes that transaction and the freedom they felt walking away that day.
DC describes segregation in the south.
DC talks about moving to Chicago and how diverse North Lawndale was. She talks about her home, the schools she attended, and her church.
DC talks about singing in the choir in Mississippi, then the Sunday School choir at Stone Temple Baptist in Chicago. She talks about her journey from freezing up when it was her turn to sing, to becoming a choir director.
DC talks about all of the well-known people she has known through Stone Temple Baptist, starting with Mahalia Jackson.
DC remembers "Daddy King," Martin Luther King Senior, speaking at their church on the same day as Emmett Till's mother and aunt. She also remembers Martin Luther King, Jr. coming to Chicago, staying in North Lawndale and using their church as his office.
DC talks about growing up in North Lawndale and describes the night MLK Jr was killed.
DC talks about her career as a medical transcriptionist.
DC talks about her family,
DC shares what she is most proud of.

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  • Dorris Calhoun
  • Jonathan Kelley

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00:02 Hello, my name is Doris. Calhoun will be 74 in two days. Today is August 12th of 2020. And today is my sister's birthday.

00:18 Located in Chicago, Illinois in my interview partner is John.

00:27 In relationship to the project is the friend.

00:32 And my name is Jonathan Kelley. I'm 48 years old today is August 12th 2020. I'm in Chicago, Illinois. I am interviewing Dorris Calhoun and she is my friend.

00:51 All right. So doors is great to have you here. Are you I'm hoping that you can start out and just tell us a little bit about your family and where you were born and your early years.

01:06 Okay, I was born in Clarksdale, Mississippi.

01:11 In the butt on my birth certificate, they have Coahoma County which is the county that Clarksdale is in and

01:22 That was a black Hospital down there that the only one we could go to and was in Coahoma County.

01:30 Mississippi my grandparents were Arthur and Maddie Byers and my parents were Geneva and JC catching.

01:41 My mother was an only child.

01:45 She died five years ago. She was she turned 90 her birthday was on December 31st, and she passed on February 4th.

01:55 So she made her 90th birthday.

01:58 My father died about 30 years ago.

02:02 And he was in his seventies.

02:06 I also lost a sister my older sister. They make Lauren she died about 30 years ago.

02:15 She passed and on the day that she passed the next year. We buried our father. That's just how closer bus.

02:26 I stay down south me and my sister me and say we were the only two born down south but other four sisters were born in Chicago.

02:36 My father and my mother JC and Geneva they came up here to find a better place of living and everything while we stayed down there with my grandparents down there. I learned how to farm catch the chickens kill the chickens get the eggs everyday out of the chicken coop. Get my first bumble bee bites get the eggs out of the chicken coop have water do watermelons and all that type of thing. It was great.

03:12 Call my grandfather said that he was not going to sharecrop ever again and he dresses up.

03:23 Sunday Best Song and we got in the car and road to town and that he found the man that owned the grocery store, but he was also the owner of the land and he took a man and he asked him how much it was and he told him and he told my grandmother to give him the money she brought this handkerchief out of her purse and tire packages inside these bills all size bills gave them to my grandfather and she said offer it is and he gave the man's name was Mr. Hudson cow.

04:03 That was the man name of the man that owns the store in the land Mr. Hudson Cowles.

04:09 When he gave the money he had a chocolate he was not expecting him to pay for that property. And so he was stabbed at shaking and sweating and we weren't allowed to say anything we could just look but it was a good observation and he gave him the paper and he said you can sign your ex on the contract. You said I don't do exit. I said my name

04:37 Wow, he said yes, sir, and he gave me a pen and he sold his name out.

04:46 And he said you weren't you said no, I won't Maddie's name on that to you said do you need she said no outside my name so both of you find a name and he gave him the piece of paper to the property and he said it's nice doing business with you if they are actually just come see me. He said thank you very much and we left her body had a smile on their face or Freedom the freedom of owning your own man on your own property. I made it was fantastic. It was great then.

05:26 We moved up here just before I turn 5.

05:32 1950 okay. Do you have him sorry you have any memories of segregation in Mississippi while you were there?

05:44 Do I have been with your point?

05:46 Segregation

05:49 You know, I do because that was a train that don't have one train man and was called the city of New Orleans.

05:59 Edward stop it will come here this how we came to the City of New Orleans and it was brown and orange brown at the bottom ones at the top and it called the city of New Orleans. We were not allowed to use the bathroom will not allowed to eat.

06:25 My grandmother always fix the basket.

06:28 Had the sandwiches living in the basket and had a jar of water with ice in it.

06:35 I'm from Eddie's collapsible cup.

06:40 Then you can raise them up and they turn to a cup. Then we finished you master down and put the cover on it and you can put it away. That's how I remember segregation white only black only.

07:00 And they had a fence downtown when you would go downtown what they call Downtown. They had a fence. They had the bathroom for the White and the black have to go to the vet.

07:15 Eating had to get to get up on that fence and sit down at the Metro Club after setup on a fence.

07:30 So use it instead of being able to go into a room.

07:36 Did you get everything off?

07:39 And then I remember getting compliments they will give you a couple of minutes and it said I just can't wait for them to grow up so you can come work at my house get off.

08:04 So we came up here and then we came up here.

08:18 We live in a mixed neighborhood. It was shoes for Cyrus and it was mixed neighborhood. And then after awhile it all transform in 1954 and 55. It was getting to be all black but we still have some Jews that were in the neighborhood the Jews and Italian they still were in the neighborhood.

08:47 Were you able to make friends with any of the the white kids and my best girlfriend was named Hazel who have a few the fight girl that lived on the next block over 13th Street. She lived at 13th and St. Louis.

09:09 Eddie used to build Coca-Cola factory next door to where they stay and it was a they were single parents. It was her mother her grandmother her sister at her and she was a very sad type person because she told them nobody like her and then I made friends with her and I made you said she said I'm so glad you're my friend. She said you make me feel good.

09:35 She said you make me feel like I'm worth something. I thought you aren't worth something. You lied. You are worth something. I said, it's up to you to nothing live in the pit. And this is the time for you to get your education. They get you a good job, and then you can move on from this you don't have to settle for this. You can make it better for you and your sister you can be the example to your sister that she can make it and then show your mother and your grandma that yes, I can make it in spite of what people think.

10:12 Odessa outside and she she did very well. I haven't seen her in about 40 years.

10:20 I'd like to know how she's doing. Yeah, so tell me what your first what was your first address in Chicago? Do you remember and what was that black like it was 3451 West 12th Place?

10:39 That was the first address 3451 West 12th Place South side of the street about four doors down from Lawson school right on the corner of Homan and 12th Place. And that's where I went from first grade to 6th grade.

11:00 Did after sixth grade we went to Julia's Hayes Hess school, which is on the corner of Douglas Boulevard in St. Louis.

11:12 My kindergarten teacher was named Miss weatherall and my sixth grade teacher was named Miss Snow White.

11:21 How funny is that?

11:25 What up talked about the weather in one of them for the show and Miss Snow White?

11:39 My sixth grade teacher

11:43 And where would where did you go to church? What did your family go to church and bring this time? The church was a whole what they call the other end. It was down across.

12:01 Across Ashley is on Washburn 13th and Washburn.

12:08 And the name of it was Sunrise Baptist Church. The past was Reverend 80 Tilly.

12:16 And my grandfather this time he said I'm just looking for he says nothing wrong with this church. I just need a better one.

12:24 You say I'm Looking For What and doing this time. We found out that we heard about Stone Temple and they were moving from 2nd Timothy, which was the old name of on the Southside that they were having a motorcade and they were coming over here. They were coming over here.

12:47 23622 West Douglas

12:53 And he said sounds interested.

12:56 And he joined up with that particular day. You got in the motorcade and doing that time. It was they said with the largest motorcade coming from the longest distance 35th and State.

13:13 3600 on Douglas and some of the same people who were teenagers and children being groomed to be old.

13:25 I think we talked about boy.

13:38 And who is the pastor then?

13:42 The pass was was the founding Pastor was Reverend James Marcellus Stone. Reverend Stone was the founder and the pastor of stone. And when it came to Stone Temple, they change the name from 2nd Timothy to Stone Temple.

14:03 And what the Cherry Robinson?

14:06 Was one of the ladies that made the motion for it to change it to his name. What's a his name is over here?

14:19 They say the name of the Stone Temple Baptist Church.

14:23 And I found a password with J's Marcellus Stone and Bishop Gary Fitzpatrick. Who's the pastor now is his grandson?

14:36 What was your what were your memories of church when you first saw it and as a as a young person going to church has been coming inside that big pimples and everything. That was like everything everything on it was great church.

15:05 I've always been in church even down south my grandmother and my grandfather and my grandmother and my mother son in the choir and they didn't have babysitter.

15:18 So to speak so they put my little rolls on and they will have me in the choir singing with them.

15:29 So it's I did not know they was getting me calling me in foreign me to do what I was going to do for the next so many years is 55 year and then when I came up here and we join Stone Temple.

15:46 When we joined Stone Temple

15:48 I became a part of the Sunday School choir.

15:53 What we we have end up with 5 wires, but I start offering this Sunday School choir you came to church for Sunday school and the Sun is who had acquired.

16:05 After you got out of your classes and everything the church the group will come together and the little kids would say and they will call it just be quiet.

16:16 Edna swing-and-miss Conley with the two people that were open the quiet one with the rest and one would play the piano.

16:27 And we had a little monthly problems. And if they it was real nice then I moved from

16:34 The Sun is required to the Young Adult Choir.

16:46 I was too young for some of them into over the rest. Anyway, they decided that the gospel course it will take you.

16:55 I say it's okay. I don't care director thing. And so then I went with the gospel chords and gospel chords, and that was Dorothy Ford.

17:12 Who was The Pianist in Bergen Young Who was the organist and these two people work with me and then let me direct all those years and I end up being the main choir director and what I finally stopped and both of them before his dad birthday youngest dead, and I'm still here.

17:39 Cricket on a direction for 55 years

17:43 What year did you?

17:46 What year did you start directing?

17:50 I started to record when I was.

17:54 Let me see. It's about 59.

18:00 About 59 because I started to record a little bit in the sunday-school choir then it moved on.

18:08 Do you remember the first time you were you stood up in front of the entire congregation and directed?

18:20 What what rear end and everything but the song?

18:35 The name of the song was humble me and let me do your will that was the name of the song and

18:44 Istripper

18:47 And when she stop playing the song and said the question singing when it came out to I couldn't say nothing. I couldn't say nothing but nothing coming out afternoon. It was time for the first shoes that had a little monthly Middle School.

19:17 She asked me what I do the response to the welcome.

19:27 All I have all I had to do was say except. You're welcome. I couldn't get it out and I sit down there a breeze my hair before they dismiss and she said, yes I said, yes we except. You're welcome.

19:52 And I've been talkin ever since once I started once I did that it was on a dog.

20:01 The next Sunday the next Sunday. I got up and we saw I'm going to need to let you do your will and if you do your will and I let the song.

20:12 Real loud and everything right and everything. I just opened my mouth and it came out.

20:24 Do you remember that song?

20:27 Do I remember the song?

20:33 I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bumby and let me do your wisdom and the person I win in the valley. I didn't go to stay with me and let me do the real with My Soul got happy. I stayed all day humble me and let me do your will my hand got stuck to the softball brown ombre me and let me do your will and I wouldn't take nothing for my journey right now.

21:19 Humble me and let me do your will.

21:27 I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored.

21:40 That was the Lovett Louis. My dad were still around he grew up in a very similar Church in Indianapolis. And he's just a sounds like I'm okay. Thanks for taking us to church.

22:00 I understand. There was some some well-known people are some famous people who came through Stone Temple.

22:10 Mahalia Jackson came through about six months Dorothy and I would she came through they used to stay in the basement when they first got there and then she was over the choir. She was older gospel course, we got pictures of her now in the book A book from back there with her sitting there. I'll let me see Alex Bradford and the Bradford singers and his brother was at our church. He was minister of music and he was at a church when he broke the plate your arms are too short to box with God.

22:51 Eddie heading at the Studebaker theater at Fashion Place. It was great.

22:58 That was great. Let me see Robert Wooten of the Wooten choral Ensemble. He came through.

23:06 Ernie Welch

23:08 Came through. He was from First Baptist Church rev limiter ground on Douglas. And I'm not around on Ogden and Central Park. But he would also come around to be with her because churches have Fellowship back that we will have no problem with me and somebody that help Direct on a couple would never thought he would always come around looking for the opportunity to not only him but some more please look for the opportunity because they knew that I was church with the type of church that will train you in mind using your gift.

23:43 And would give you that opportunity to do so.

23:47 That we had never been theater on Fry.

23:51 Your door frat he came up from Georgia. Then he went to California and he brought the singing group up here and the singing group was known for it was Doris Aiken and her group and they recorded the song A Brighter Day ahead. And that's what put them on the map. That is a brighter day ahead.

24:21 And then what will happen?

24:30 Van Dyke Lawrence Van Dyke organist Willie James Mack by McFadden, Oregon

24:39 Edy Williams

24:41 Play the piano.

24:44 Avicii

24:47 That was a lady and I can't remember her name right now, and then I found out.

24:56 That she was the daughter of Hailie, Selassie. Who was

25:04 The prime minister at that time of Easter.

25:10 Carmen

25:13 If you're with Haile, Selassie and his daughter.

25:20 Heard that we called her Queen.

25:23 And she song with Alice Bradford and his singer beautiful voice. She was blind but she could cook and find her way around Graves born.

25:37 And Sally Martin all of them, even when she has the Publishing Company where they publish out the sheet music.

25:53 Speaking of people named Martin you had somebody come by from Atlanta right to preach at one point.

26:00 Yes, we have.

26:05 At first we had Daddy Kane.

26:08 Who was Martin Luther King's father?

26:14 Daddy Kink. That's what they call it Daddy. He Emmett Till's mother and his aunt can the church that Sunday morning.

26:33 And she was talking about how she was so glad how two people having courage and helped her in the sky and ghetto with her son being killed and wish you had to put him away. She said they needed to see and to know what damage was done to him. Whatever he did. I didn't do it was not worth him like that did put away like that.

27:00 And throat doctor Keys father by twice

27:06 Two years in a row

27:08 Advair

27:10 Would Martin Luther King came to Chicago?

27:15 Martin Luther King made his home on the west side on Lawndale and 16th Street at our church was his office.

27:28 And when he spoke he passed the church out.

27:34 It was powerful.

27:36 It was a powerful night. I'm telling you. I never forget those three men.

27:45 PJ Hall

27:50 It was the 3 news guy Douglas Edwards.

27:56 Auto Network Baltimore Tides, the three men was sitting there and so they went down to the kitchen Miss Cleo. I guess who's in charge of the kitchen along with Brother John borders her nephew and build the Border by nice. She was the cook as a cook that bite the night with Martin Luther King make their speech and I mean they came downstairs and the 8th the 8th. This is the best food ever had and they eat your meal of $20.

28:32 We got to leave you some money. This food is so good and each one of them on the news for the next two nights. Remember when we went over there?

28:52 We got to get back over there reminder. The King was great, but the food.

29:01 Awesome. It was really good at night.

29:09 And somebody else song but make it got that far.

29:15 And then they put him up everywhere all in the bathroom in the hallway on the street and they had those great big Bell looking microphone speakers that they had put up so you can hear what's going on inside.

29:42 When would you been in high school when when it happened? Did you go to high school?

29:51 I went to John Marshall High School.

29:54 John Marshall High School and in the midst of going to hair. I mean to some famous people to I had Robert would never teacher Lynnwood Grill as a teacher all these people that are connected to music.

30:12 Then when I got over to John Marshall High School I ran into Gloria Lewis who is Ramsey Lewis if Sister?

30:22 And she was in charge of the mixed course and then the lady that was in charge of the girls course was Constance Wilson.

30:32 And we are friends today.

30:35 Constance Wilson and I we are still friends that day.

30:40 Is she the little mini short thing with long hair and she can sing her hand directs and I'm telling you little choice, but she happy ability to have that girls choir singing.

30:57 It was great.

31:00 What was your favorite thing about high school?

31:03 My favorite music

31:07 Literacy class

31:10 Music classic English class always love English and doing the coming up that was another issue that they had when I was in Lawson school school. They have spelling bees.

31:29 They have the spelling bee. Well, I guess about four years.

31:35 They had the spelling bee I won every time.

31:40 I want for four years and then what you get you get a red big box of Salerno butter cookies or grab big box of vanilla wafers. You get a case of milk as the case of milk in Bottle the little bitty bottles like that and they were glass

32:04 They give you 20 for $5 of this bill, okay?

32:10 The cookie and the milk at every day for four years. I won the spelling bee and the next time that they got rid, they have the spelling bee they made the announcement that they weren't going to have it anymore because of some people have protested some of the parents that protested because they child.

32:36 So they didn't try to straighten it out anything. They said stop after.

32:44 But it should have been a challenge.

32:47 Yo, you should have been a challenge let your child learn how to spell and these words and put them in the contest. But either way they stop happy.

32:59 I just have one more question about you growing up. And then I have a couple more questions about you is as an adult. So, when you were in high school, can you like what was the neighborhood? Like, can you describe an average Saturday for instance in the neighborhood?

33:18 The average Saturday in my neighborhood. Well, you have to do housework.

33:25 You have to do housework before you went to the show.

33:30 Saturday morning was known for show Central Park theater.

33:35 In the 3500 on Roosevelt Road

33:40 What did you walk up there and see you won't you saw all the cartoon and you said movie?

33:47 It was like $0.25 or whatever. It was they begin their separated, but we would not allow my family. We were not allowed to know you go do your housework. So Saturday morning, man.

34:07 You have to wash hang the sheet that on the line and the other clothes on the in the house. You have to change linen do your housework and clean and then?

34:22 If it was any way possible, maybe you might get to the show but most of the time by that time it was over.

34:32 It was over everybody's head back on bed.

34:38 What we do stuff to do with making paper dolls and painting Hopscotch it jumping rope.

34:48 Because you didn't cook on Sunday or Saturday or Sunday.

34:56 Okay, and what other kind of stores were there on near your house?

35:02 Oh, we didn't have to go anywhere between Pulaski and Kedzie. You didn't have to go downtown for anything. You have you had your mixed or do you have to close the store? You have to show you that my glasses the dentist all of that. You had your kosher food. You had dry Italian food that you and all of that. You have the national food store yet the A&P Food Store. You have to plant them store where you can redeem your plaid stamps. You have the S&H Green store where you can really know S&H Green stamp.

35:45 And all of that was right over then it was maintained and kept on till the night when dr. King got killed and went back to King got killed.

36:02 Everything was burnt up and destroyed just about

36:09 All of the stores that we knew

36:13 All of this

36:17 National they tow It Up MP3 to it up but they really need is a little bit but it didn't last.

36:28 And then the things they did it burn up.

36:32 The things that they didn't do in brno.

36:36 They broke the glass and tossed everything about it was it was a mess.

36:45 What were your kidney?

36:49 Good night, friend of mine. His name was James Frank Fleming he weigh with the work and he had came home and his mother sent him back outside because his fuck his son. His brother was not at home is Brothers about 9 or 10. He said you got to go find your brother. He's not home. So he died and his brother and it was a alley in between Elizabeth and 12th Place on St. Louis. That was an errand and he's so nice all of boy at the end of The Alley look like his brother. So he started running down in Italian to get him and he said he got half way you felt this heat.

37:39 Three places of heat

37:42 And he say what was that and you felt the heat then he fell.

37:48 And it was two cops one was black one was white.

37:52 And he said the Whitecaps did over him and was fixing to shoot and the black cop said don't leave him alone. He's already hurt.

38:04 Eddie say right Benny man kicked him in his side.

38:08 Lady kicked him in the entire he passed out.

38:13 He said the next day he know he woke up. He was in a Paddy Wagon laying on top of two men who are dead.

38:23 And he was laying on top of needless completely backed out. You better stay the shop and he is up at Cook County Hospital. He had to have surgery and piercing is healed.

38:37 They took the bullet out of his leg in two places.

38:42 And they had to remove some of the bone.

38:46 And that made him have a limp.

38:50 Bump in between his knees walk with a limp.

38:55 After that

38:56 And he had to what he had to file a lawsuit because she said breed with my Bluetooth or isn't here just got off work and was out looking for his brother.

39:09 And years later it took some time, but they they settle with him.

39:16 And now he's losing everything work and he said he was not guilty and then they pay them off.

39:25 But he never was right after that.

39:27 That was like a traumatic situation.

39:32 Wow, he go in the house and stay if you couldn't get it back out.

39:43 Wow, that was so powerful. And I know we're just about at the end of our interview, but is it okay if I ask one more question best?

39:52 Yeah, we can have a few minutes out today. I just want to go for it to your belt head. So what did you do after high school?

40:04 After High School when I graduated I have already got their job working for the Social Security Board then a file Clerk and that's what I did. I need the mental doing that.

40:19 I was

40:21 Ride on the train

40:23 And I came home and we always have music on the radio going and this they had this announcer that came over talking about medical transcription.

40:35 Medical records

40:37 If I'm interested and they said call this number and the name of the community service. That's what it's there for is it called this week? So I called her number?

40:55 They gave me a pointment for the next day.

41:00 And I told my mother I said I got this appointment for the next day with Wix about this program. I found out about okay.

41:09 She said gold have a good luck. I went down to the meeting they had scheduled for me to leave.

41:17 To go that day to Job Corps.

41:22 I had to go buy as if they already got me scheduled to me to go to Job Corps.

41:31 What? Yes ma'am to be a medical transcriptionist.

41:37 And the Job Corps then was located at 4141 North Clarendon on North side and I went there and I study for two and a half years to be a medical transcriptionist and came away with my certificate. Then I went and took the state board and I got my license.

41:59 And I went to my first job was at st. Joseph hospital at 2800 North Lake Shore Drive.

42:07 I left there and I work for General officers for 10 years and that they have their own.

42:15 Cover you going to work or you can work from home. I like going out to buy job.

42:21 So we did that for 10 years did African is I got hired at rush. I would rush fill out the application 3 days. They they called me. I went took the test. They said you the only one to ever pass the test and answered all the questions right? So then I work at brush. I worked at rush until they stop using a transcript.

42:47 That was a rush. I left rush and I was a Little Company of Mary.

42:53 Left little company Mary and sit down

42:58 Agreed they needed someone in LaGrange. I went to LaGrange and then when I retired I retired from Lagrange.

43:08 That was 55 years to 55 years of medical transcription.

43:14 And what was your favorite thing about medical transcription?

43:18 The knowledge the knowledge that you get it was so much knowledge that you gain from doing those medical report that mean I typed everything the discharge send me the physical physical examination results lab report autopsy report gross. I did it all at each part of medicine. It's a never die.

43:49 Arena

43:51 You could always learn medicine is constantly advancing. That's Beast. Who don't rush Presbyterian hospital because his interest into knowledge into knowing they always doing research for a better way better way to do something else.

44:15 Every whip I had to name a bracelet.

44:18 Edwards 20 years apart when they didn't one cab they did one way but then when they did it on the other one, they did a more advanced procedure of doing the living places, but they still work.

44:35 They still work at the same surgeon did both of them and they work and I seen the church I was around research and what they did cuz make things better from the breast exam breast biopsy man with prostate problems and everything and the given thing they with you and I'm telling you it was fantastic. I love medicine.

45:11 And then I just want to know a little bit more about when you had your own family. What was that? What was that like and who's part of your family now?

45:26 Well, that was six Golden Girls as May 6th Golden Girls. Like I said, my sister is the one that should be her birthday is today and mine is on Friday. She born on August 12th 6 years after me and then there's Barbara Fletcher on Janice was a sheriff at 26 and California Barbara Fletcher was a chair at 26 and California both of your tired after 35 years.

46:09 Working as in the police.

46:14 Department of Correction. Okay, there's Maryland, Maryland has she started work with Illinois bail?

46:25 And she went from Illinois Bell to AT&T and she stayed with them until they gave their officer. All right, after all these years they gave her a plan and a package and she retired a walkout.

46:41 What she walked out in good hands My Sister Margaret baby Marvin catching. She was with Illinois Bell to AT&T.

46:54 And then she Trey from she went from being an operator to doing the construction and we wearing

47:08 I have two daughters.

47:11 I have Lucretia paralegal.

47:16 On 26 and California. I have Laverne with her own cooking and Catering.

47:30 Laverne has six kids for daughters or daughters and two sons oldest daughter just turned 29.

47:43 My first great granddaughter, which is her name is Lashawn LaShawn Calhoun, and her daughter is Madison and Madison just turned 6, Gabrielle Gabrielle and John a

48:04 Gabrielle has her master's in criminal justice and work for the Huntsville Police Department.

48:13 In the prison

48:15 Jeremy is a security guard here is a city is in she was in Alabama now. She's in Florida going to school and she has a little girl named Kennedy. Jeremy has a Jeremy Junior and the geronda Dior.

48:37 Gabrielle RJ

48:44 What I say Lucia and has a Madison.

48:49 All of my sisters advance in their job and we're trying to get our kids to the same thing be consistent on your job if when you get paid, don't be off the next day go to work.

49:05 Don't mistake. My mother's tell her go to work sick that I'm seeing you at home. They should get paid for that day. Don't that's positively that stay off and off push beyond your pain and go to work and it pays off all of me and my sisters have a history of being good workers and knowing our job. We don't have a bad record of knowing we'd know I've done I know my job.

49:34 And with a good am so good at sending my check you call me. I can still tell you about transcription and about medicine.

49:45 Well Doris, it's been a real pleasure. I just want to thank you so much for your time and your wisdom and your history and look forward to sharing some of this with the entire world. So, thanks again, and I think

50:04 One more thing.

50:07 What would you say you're most proud of in your life the way I'm proud of my parents and my grandparents. I'm proud of my baby turned onto me. I'm proud of Stone Temple Church how it has grown and how you let me grow and other people you can take the knowledge that you got from Stone Temple and go to some other Church.

50:37 Call this a mother church and still be the best nurse the best the best deacon.

50:44 And then I asked you where you get servers on what we were trained.

50:50 I was passing believed in training.

50:54 Training makes a good church.

50:58 And then I O Pastor I found in Pastor Reverend gemstone. You say if you want to keep your religion. Keep it busy find you something to do. You ain't going to come and do the Airship Board of Nursing do something do crap Temecula. He said you involve yourself you keep you happy and keep me in bra.

51:26 So that's what I'm proud of I'm proud of the people that I had ran into along my life that I've known. I mean they famous people but they stopped by me and I had the privilege of knowing

51:41 I still say the greatest Pastor in the world was rough gemstone and I'm under his other greater Pastor Bishop Derrick is passing his grandson and his wife apostle Richard dispatch.

52:00 Okay, wonderful. Thanks. Again Dorris Calhoun for your time and your wisdom and sharing your history with us. I think you're welcome to call me anytime.