Elvera Johnson and Carol Duerksen

Elvera (E) asks about Carol’s (C) animals on her farm. C shares which animals she’s got at home.

C shares her views on using a Jesus lens to live her life.

E shares the kind of person her father was, and says she has inherited his collection of annotated bibles. C recalls how her mother gave her space to be herself while growing up, despite not being similar to her mother.

E shares her political views, says she is a part of the League of Women Voters, and says her values are faith-based. C says she wants politicians and governments to help people, and for the government to care for “the last, the lost, and the least.”

E and C talk about where they grew up and about having to sell their properties and family farms.

E shares what it’s like to feel misunderstood by conservative republicans who view democrats as unreligious.

E and C talk about their views on vaccines and wearing face-masks in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. E talks about how the debate on COVID-19 safety measures has impacted her daughter who is a teacher and C discusses how her husband has been a part of the school board and what the debate looks like in their county.

E and C talk about communicating with their representatives and E gives some advice on doing so.

C and E talk about what books they’re currently reading. E talks about focusing on themes such as truth, joy, and peace in the Bible.

C asks how covid-19 has affected E’s congregation. C shares how it has affected her church.

E says she uses C’s curricula in her courses.