Fainess Lipenga and Marga Fripp

[00:01] MARGA FRIPP: Hi, my name is Marga Fripp. I am 47 years old. Today's date is Friday, May 14, 2021. I'm recording from my home in Clyde, North Carolina and I'm here with my friend Fainess

[00:20] FAINESS LIPENGA: Hi, my name is Finesse Lipenga and I am 42 years old. Today is Friday, May 14, 2021. I am recording from Maryland and I am here with my interview who is also my friend, Marga Fripp

[00:42] MARGA FRIPP: I'm so grateful Fainess we're doing this together. It's really an honor and a privilege. Well, you and I have known each other for eight years and during this time we had many conversations about your childhood growing up in Malawi. You were born in a village to a family who had five children and very little means to support themselves. Your mama is a survivor of domestic violence and because your dad didn't want you, you were sent at an early age to live with relatives. Can you share a little bit about what was like for you growing up in Malawi?

[01:26] FAINESS LIPENGA: Growing up in Malawi I had a rough rife I call I would say it's like repeating the narrative recycle or taboo to me. My dad was very abusive as you said. My mom is a survivor for domestic violence. So I witnessed my dad beating up my mom, my siblings. My mom had to find me under the. I mean under the Spring Bay spring bed if like he reached me or just beating us. It was a lot of carriers. My dad was heavily, heavily alcoholic and smoking. He never been in our life. So it was like that growing up my daddy didn't want us like didn't want me. But when I. My mom was. I'm the youngest of like five children and my dad was beating my mother even when she was carrying me in her berry. He wanted my mom to abort me. And apart from that my daddy I did not have role model growing up. I was so very shy and very quiet. Self esteem and not having a bond of my father it was just. It wasn't a light how many family to grow up for me. So out here I grew up in a broken family. My daddy like he doesn't know how to read or to write. He dropped out of school on third grade. So that give you the answer? My mom, she told me she went to old school, sixth grade. My older sister, they never made it to like even 8th grade. One of my older sister dropped out 30 grade like my dad, my other sibling, my brothers, both of them even made it to like even in high school. So we all drop out of school because of financial hardship. My mom tried her best. But like if a single mother, I call a single mother because that's never been in our life. And it impacted me as a young child. Like being a girl last born, not having a father present in my life, that impacted me. So I was sent to live with different family members. And because of that, the habit of my dad and those family members, families wasn't nice either because then I was also child molested. I mean a lot of abuse, beatings and raped. I mean sexual was involved. So I end up like drop out of school and I end up also got married just like my mom when she was married at 15 years old. I end up like, I repeat the same recycle. I end up getting married at young age before I, I had a customer marriage. I couldn't say marriage, it was custom marriage. So that means I met my boyfriend who was like 25 years old. And I was, I can't remember how old I was, but I was a child because what I remember before I turned my 18th birthday, I had, I had at least had one miscarriage and I had given birth to two children. So that was before I changed my 18th birthday. So you do make the math.

[04:55] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah.

[04:58] FAINESS LIPENGA: And that was going on. So there was no, I mean like when I get married with like I had that customer marriage, my boyfriend was so abused. So I am actually also a survivor of domestic violence myself, including Boris. So I was just like a shy girl and quiet. But it's unfortunately that this is still going on because unfortunately I feel like I, I need, I mean I do have to give my nieces the answer because my nieces are reaching out to me because this recycle unfortunately is still going on because not only that I was raped, I mean child molested with like some of these family members. I was, I mean raped with like strangers. So like my life, I had slept with like 14 men in total at this age from like the childhood, 12 of them in Malawi when this, when I was little, including family members and strangers. Some of them were brutal and two happened here in America. But this is happening like while I'm here, some of my nieces, two of my nieces, they had children from their own step further. So my other niece is curious reaching out to me. Why do we have this kind of like why are families like this? So that's why I make sure that like I feel like I have, I have this responsibility that I have to give the answer to my niece who's curious, trying to understand so I am so open with that. Her. I'm. I've been telling her what I went through growing up by myself. She doesn't like it, but that's how it is. So it's like.

[06:44] MARGA FRIPP: Finesse. I think you wanted to say that 14 men raped you. Is that right?

[06:51] FAINESS LIPENGA: Well, so 10, I mean, eight many back home, like you raped me. Two women, I mean, two. Yeah. Yeah.

[07:01] MARGA FRIPP: I just wanted to clarify that for.

[07:04] FAINESS LIPENGA: Two women here in America, that makes it 14.

[07:09] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah. Oh, sweetie.

[07:12] FAINESS LIPENGA: I mean three. Three children. I gave birth when I was like before I turned my. I mean 18 birthday. It wasn't from one, only for my boyfriend. One of them actually was from like a man. Older man I met. I think he was maybe in his 65. And I was told before I was, I think I 17 when I met him and he. I was pregnant and he didn't marry me. But because I was just like, if I was in America, I'll be like, he may be. We don't have such thing in Malawi. Straight away, I came from. I'll be like a part of the Lanaway youth. I mean like broken home water meaning kids here in America, they do growing up in foster care, like the same thing. I grew up with different family members, although we don't have foster care. I mean back home. But like that's the same similar thing I went through back home growing up. And it's still happening right now. Unfortunate.

[08:05] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah. I'm so sorry, Fainess This is so painful. And I know it's still with you to this day. And I pray the healing journey continues for you. I'm gonna ask you the next question, and I know it's very deeply linked to this time in your life because you. You grew up under this very difficult circumstances. You then took a job working for a family for about two years, taking care of the child of this person. And eventually she became appointed a diplomat to the United States. She invited you to come with her to the United States as a nanny for her daughter. And she promised to pay you $980 a month and offer you an education. And you were so excited. You were only 25 years old and you spoke no English. What happened when you arrived to the United States?

[09:11] FAINESS LIPENGA: Well, when I left United States, unfortunately, all the promise changed. It was like a whole. It was like living like life in a hell in a cell. I was working long hours around the croak. I have no time off. I had to clean, iron, vacuum, doing everything in the house. And I was not able to. I had no communication with My family, my. My trafficker would not allow me to communicate with my family. She disconnected the phone. I was stabbed. I wasn't fed, I was eating leftovers or sometime. And also I was faced to sleep in the basement on the floor because I was told I would make the family contaminated. On top of that, I mean doing chores in the house, it wasn't enough for my traffic. I was forced to work in a family industrial carpet company cleaning. I had to clean carpet in DMV areas in businesses. I mean like in middle of night until like am like that. All those without pay to less than 40 cents an hour.

[10:25] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah. I read in the legal case in the court you declared or there was a sum of about 108 hours you worked every week for nothing and being deeply mistreated.

[10:44] FAINESS LIPENGA: Yeah, it's like that. It's not like my trust, but the way she treated me, she treated me like miserably. I felt like a slave. It's not like you get. You work, you get. I mean you can get medical. I had no medical. I have no medical. I was. No, I had no access to medical. For example, I developed a lot of medical condition that never been treated when I was working there. So I was treated like listening in animal. Because in America people treat animals like human beings because they can take their animals to vet, so they can get care. They can. You can buy doggy food, cat food for $1,000. But it wasn't my case. I was starved, so I felt like a slave.

[11:29] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah. Oh, finesse. Did she ever actually sent you to school as she promised?

[11:35] FAINESS LIPENGA: No, she did not. She did not send me to school. I was captive. I was. I had no exposure outside world. She did not do anything what she promised me. I suffered mentally, physically, sexually. Because when I was in the job, I also. I was also raped by. I mean a family's friend.

[12:00] MARGA FRIPP: Finesse.

[12:02] FAINESS LIPENGA: And my. My traffic. I mean my trafficker took away my passport, my contract as well. And she was telling me that when I learned how she called me to authorities and she was telling me that she was a diploma, she having immunity. She can do anything what she wants. She cannot get in trouble. And I do not understand and I know I couldn't speak English, but when she said that, it was just like the mentality, like make me a mini. She thought like I would run away, but I couldn't speak English. I did not have anybody. I don't know where she think I would learn how to. I didn't know anybody.

[12:38] MARGA FRIPP: Right, so you've been captive for three Years. And then how did you escape?

[12:46] FAINESS LIPENGA: One day, my trafficker came. We went out in the comrade and the garage. They open the garage, get in. And the garage, when they open, always make noise. And I hear the noise. So I wanted to die when I was there all the time, because I just. Because of what I went through back home growing up. And this happened to me in America. I just feel like. I just feel, like, so angry. Like, why all these things happen to me? When is this gonna stop? So I wanted to die. Like, I wanted to die, but I wanted to die in the street. So I saw my passport and the contract, and I put it in the trash bag. And then I hear the garage making a noise. And when they close it, it didn't creak because the gadget, when you open it creak up. When you go down, it creep down. So when I hear that the galaja didn't click all the way down, I. I learned away. I was so manure because I wasn't fit. I was able to fit. I feed a little space, like, I mean, under the gadget. And I said, and I learned for my life.

[13:57] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah, I know. You shared with me that you ended up in shelter and for a couple of years of homelessness. But then something happened. Then we met. You came to Empowered Women International in 2013 as a student in the Entrepreneur Training for Success during my time as the executive Director. This was 10 years after you arrived to United States. So a lot more happened between the time you escaped and the time we met. I remember at that time, our trainers telling us that you were so depressed, had suicidal thoughts and reflections, refused to eat. I was so scared and didn't know what to do. I reached out to you and I asked that we meet. Do you remember our first meeting?

[14:54] FAINESS LIPENGA: Yeah, I do remember that. And I'm. I'm glad you mentioned about the suicide. Yeah. So after I left, I mean, I skipped my traffic. Yeah, I attempted suicide, like, oh, so many times. I tried to land to the traffic lights, like, train track. And I tried different, actually, by the way, the tamu we met actually the same period. I just. I was just. Just discharged from, like, Georgetown University Hospital because I did not try to take off my life, but I did drink something. I was ready. I was ready to take off my life. So I end up in the hospital. I was there for 11 days, suicidal. That didn't work. That's why I get to the point, like, I think this is not gonna work. Why? I mean, it's. The Lord doesn't want me to Go this time. So when he. I remember when you told me to meet him. You at Panela Blade. I didn't know where panela. But you explained to me like, it's Silver spring. I know, but I take that. Like, I tried to run away back then in like in my traffic. So I took a train. Silver Spring. But I just know silvers. But I didn't know where pranayama bread is, but I found it. And I remember. I remember sitting down in Panela, Brazil, I think. You asked me, like, if I were. What do I want to order? I didn't even know the menu. I didn't know how to say because I don't speak English. Like, what I saw is just the letters. You end up just to pick up things for me. I can't remember. It was called for cappuccino and muffin. Something like that. Then you sat with me. Just a simple question. You asked me, like, how. I mean, where am I from? Just like a simple question. But I remember one of the questions you asked me, like, did you go to school? I mean, like, did you feel. I mean, I can remember the whole thing, but one of the questions you asked me was like, about this school. And I told you that I always wanted to go to school and that's why I came to America and I wanted to be a nurse. And you told me that I'm gonna make sure you get a new education. I'm gonna. I go either with you by myself or I'm going to find somebody from like international empowered international women to go with you to school, Montgomery College so you can find out information. And we talk. We talk. And I mean, then later you ask me also if I had been in home since I've been in America. I said, no, I have not. And I told you, like, ask me, how many siblings do you have? And I told you, you say, are you the first born? I mean the first one. I said, no, I'm the last born. So she was like, oh, you are baby. I say, yes. Then it was like, then, like later after that, you told me that. Well, you told me that, oh, you Fainess I want to tell you this. You will save the world. When you told me and you told me that there is those ways on me that I will save the world, I did not understand. But my. I was like in my head, I said, is she crazy? Because I didn't see myself, believe myself that I will save the world. But you live those ways repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly. And you mentored me. You inspired me all through this Journey in roller coaster of my life. You had to teach me how to love. You install my broken heart that was broken in pieces. In your presence. You helped me to heal with your love. I felt the love for first time. I felt it, I'm living it. And you went above and beyond and asked me last question before I leave. You ask me finesse. If I can do one thing to you, what is it? I mean, that's how, like I remember that equator. If I can do one thing to you, what should I do? Like, it was like that. Then I was like. Because I was very shy and like very quiet. And like the whole time I wasn't like doing eye contact. Because that's how I was told that don't look at people's faces. Because that's what the lies my trafficker told me. Like, not like in the shyness, I see that shyness, the invisible I had back home growing up, I still kept that invisible throughout here in America, that free is so that invisible. I had it when I met you. And I was. I remember I was looking down, like, trying to avoid eye contact because I don't know why, just like, I mean, it's. I don't know. So I was. I remember I asked you, like, do you want me to give you the answer now? It was hard for me. For you, it felt like it was simple question. But for me, it was hard for me to come up with like, just one thing to tell me what. To tell you what you should do for me. So my mind said that time because I miss my mom a lot, my family a lot. I own my mom so much. Because what she went through, we all went through a lot. But like, I feel like at this moment, because she's son. She never talk about it. They never talk about it. I am the one who. I mean, I feel like I own her, like so much. So I said, if I. If I can just have you buy me a ticket. So that's how I say, you can help me to go back. Or she said, well, you want to go home? I'm gonna help. I'm gonna make that happen. That was it.

[20:33] MARGA FRIPP: And we did it. And we did it and it was amazing.

[20:38] FAINESS LIPENGA: Then you asked me about the passport. My passport is expired. They got the whole thing. You say. Then you mentioned my Milani embassy. Like, when you mentioned Malani embassy, I cried because I was scared, I'm gonna get arrest. He said, no, I'm gonna have somebody go with you. So you found. Are you like a lawyer? Go. You called yourself Malani Embassy and like trying I guess to ask the process like how to. I mean assess like I am passport to Balawi. Whatever. I don't know what you're good. But you did everything by yourself. I did not have the money. Of course you pay the fee for the passport. And I had that lawyer helped me to fill up application in Malawi Embassy. I wasn't alone and I did and I got the passport. I mean no before I got the passport calling Malawi Embassy follow up because you want me to send you home. But I could not still believe. I thought like it was a Jim. But like you told me that when I get my passport I gotta call you. And I got my. I got my passport and you say send me a picture. I send you a picture and you told me that I gonna remember how to get to you. I mean to a village. I say, well, I don't know. I don't think I want to get lost because that time when we met. I have not been to my country more than 10 years. So everything changed. So I had to call my brother to. I mean so he can meet me to the airport. But they know, they trust me because the same time when I coming oh, I'll come when I able to have a ticket. So they don't trust me.

[22:18] MARGA FRIPP: But like yeah, so tell the story about you going home. What was it like? What did the village do? How did your mother receive you?

[22:30] FAINESS LIPENGA: So actually when I know that this I talked to my mother three days when I saw that okay, this is now this is happening. I just feel like the way things happen. I just feel like the angel just opened up this sky to when you make this happen. So I called my. My brother, told him that he got a scored me to. I mean. I mean welcome to the airport. He could have go get my. My mother because I wanted my mother at the airport. So my dad brought my. My mother and my dad to the airport. So when I was getting to my brother when I was in London I called my brother. I used to pay for my. My dad. My brother did not pick up the phone. I was worried that if my brother is not there, I'm going to get it all. So I proceeded. I live in Malawi. When I get off from the airport lately, actually I kiss the ground, I lick the ground. They dating. Because I do not believe I have the pic. I document everything. I mean, they said no, no, no, I was crazy. I licked the ground, they ground.

[23:39] MARGA FRIPP: I remember exchanging pictures together from Malawi.

[23:45] FAINESS LIPENGA: My mom was like. We just made eye contact. My mom we Were all crying at the airport. Poor people, like, at the airport. And people, they were like, funeral. Somebody died. My mom was like, oh, my God. It's like you just come back from dead end lies again. We cried cry at the airport. I left everything behind. I did not check. I mean, claimed my bag. I went straight. I have to go back because it was just so emotional.

[24:15] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah.

[24:16] FAINESS LIPENGA: And then I get to the village. The village, like the whole three weeks. People are coming, like in. I mean, in groups, their house, like singing, dancing, and everybody who comes crying, celebrating, laughing. They told me this is the same way. They told me that they feel like if somebody was like, I. They thought like, I allies from dead. So I. I was dead. Then I allies again to life.

[24:43] MARGA FRIPP: I am so, so grateful.

[24:48] FAINESS LIPENGA: Yeah. Celebration. Big celebration.

[24:53] MARGA FRIPP: I remember receiving photographs. And then we spent so much time looking over videos and pictures. And there was the mango season and the pumpkin leaves and the food you were cooking and the time with your mom, which was so rewarding for you, but also for me, as I knew you were telling me that your mom is losing her vision and she might not ever see you again. So that was such a, I think an important moment for all of us, for your healing, for your mom's healing, and also for me, a sense of seeing a glimmer of happiness and the joy I saw in you after that. The transformation was extraordinary. So this takes me to the next part of our journey together. You becoming an activist in the anti trafficking movement. So for many years, you were intimidated and afraid to tell your story. But over time, with support from many pro bono lawyers and nonprofit organizations like Empowered Women International, you grew confident. You learned to stand up not only for yourself, but for all survivors who are still silence. And you are now working with a human trafficking legal center in Washington D.C. to give survivors a voice and educate professionals in the community about human and labor trafficking. And that's extraordinary. Fainess I know you've accomplished a lot and I want to ask you, what are you most proud of in doing this work?

[26:27] FAINESS LIPENGA: It's kind of like funny because I started this journey like Nori speaking English, the English I use it from through the English I taught myself through watching cartoon when I was homeless. Like, are you that like broken English? Like, I mean like starting like educating. So being in anti trafficking movement, what I'm very proud of, like is so much I'm gonna mention still. One of the. One of the best moment of my life was when I received the Crime Victim rights award by US Attorney General in Washington D.C. for my luxuriant advocates, courageous advocacy work. So I was like, wow, this is huge. I had met so many high, very high, very profile people. But for me to be honored with that crime victim rights award, I was like, I could not believe it. And then that was nice. I mean, to compare. I mean, to look back how much I overcome. And also, like another aha moment was like 2019, my only state in Maryland where also I was trafficked. I learned there was no labor statue when I was speaking at the the human trafficking dash force in Hawadi County, Wei Island. There was no neighbor trafficking statue. It was like a punch in the face for me. So I was so angry because it didn't surprise me because after I escaped, I struggled to get service. I ended up getting services in D.C. and I met others. So many survivors who were so trafficked in Maryland. We end up getting our services in D.C. so it makes me so angry. So I was like, okay, now it's time for me to pull up my sleeve. I need to fight for my state. So I asked them why there's no labor statue. They said, well, we don't think there's no. I mean labor trafficking. I say, are you crazy? Just had me on the panel for nothing. And another issue, like, they did not have anybody to testify. Say, you introduce the bill, I'm gonna be there to testify. So they introduced the bill, and I testify before the District of Maryland, Annapolis, Maryland. And the bill was passed, and I was there when governor Larry Hogan signed the bill. So I helped to put the statue. Reba is crime in the state of marinade, effectively.

[29:26] MARGA FRIPP: That's awesome. I was in Switzerland at this time, Fainess as you recall. And I saw on Facebook all the beautiful photographs, the signatures, the extraordinary accomplishment. I am so proud of you. It's incredible what you've accomplished. And I want to mention one thing, Finas. You are one of the very few survivors who brought their trafficker to court and won the case. As a result, in 2016, the U.S. court for the District of Maryland awarded you 1.1 million million in damages. However, to these days, you have not received any funds from your trafficker as she left the United States before the court decision and she declined to make any payment. So you continue to fight for justice, not only for everyone else justice, but for your own justice. And I hope justice prevail. But if your trafficker ever pays you, as this is the hope and the dream, what would you like to do with the funds?

[30:37] FAINESS LIPENGA: That's a good question. If my trafficker ever, ever paid me the money, first of all, I'll take some of that money to install my scars. As I said, I had developed a lot of medical situation when I was trafficking. One of them is my teeth. When I was I left there, my teeth was in a body condition. I wasn't allowed to use like teeth paste or teeth to brush my teeth. So when I left, my teeth started, I mean breaking. So I the teeth that I have right now, they are temporary, they are feelings. So I tried to get the service like in DMV area but I was denied. So the first thing I'll do with the money is to install my teeth. I have to have a permanent teeth. That means I have to go in for four implant to install like this one of these scars that my trafficker created so I can leave some of the pain she created behind me eventually. And secondly, I'll take some of that money I will donate as being homeless in America firsthand. A domestic violence survivor and also a survivor who also struggled to get services. I know there's a need of housing in America for survivors of trafficking. So I use that money to donate to homeless shearers and donate some of the money to the organization who do direct service for survivors to provide housing for them. And like some of the fund, of course I will invest to tuition for my education because dream never dies. So my dream still exists. I still love to get an education. That's what I do with my money.

[32:33] MARGA FRIPP: And we should say that currently you are enrolled in pursuing your ged. So hopefully very soon you'll have a high school diploma and that will be a step closer to your educational dream to become a nurse.

[32:52] FAINESS LIPENGA: I hope so too.

[32:54] MARGA FRIPP: Me too.

[32:55] FAINESS LIPENGA: We're in this together and we fight.

[32:59] MARGA FRIPP: You are, you are finesse. Well, you have experienced unspeakable challenges and a great deal of trauma and adversity and also Fainess you have been blessed with many angels. Can you share who are some of the people that transform your life with their kindness and care?

[33:24] FAINESS LIPENGA: Oh, there's a lot. But I'm going to mention a few. I cannot able to mention everyone like one of them like American University lawyers who open who help me to secure my T visa. And then there's specific lawyer Megan Huskies from American Investor. After she left, she was still curious stick with me. Because she wanted to see justice. So she reached out and she was able to reach out to the Human Trafficking Legal center and Martina. The president of the Human trafficking and the executive director Martina Vandenberg referred my case to pro bono lawyers. The Jones Day in the Lord Jones Day opened my civil case. And not only that, there's also some organization who contributed to this, although they are not royals. They say take a village. Of course, Dr. Fuhtui, who's a dentist, who stood up when he. No one thought, like, I did not deserve to get another chance. He stood up and started taking care of my thesis. And he's still doing it. So I'm grateful for that. And also, of course, my community. Ew. I Empowered Women International. My teachers are Lola Lamosi Shamiram. The list can go on and on. And they also. Another Lola, actually, when I was in homeless children, I was the youngest in homeless children. That Lola was, Was calling me like her African daughter. She was braiding my hair, so I thought it was nice. So I have so many, so many, many people that I can. I can think of. But, like, the list can go on and on.

[35:26] MARGA FRIPP: I know some of these people in your life, and they all have been transformative for you. And I'm so, so grateful that you have this community, this village of love and care and support. And I will continue to be with you on a journey along with our sisters and brothers.

[35:45] FAINESS LIPENGA: Marga But I never asked you this before. Why did you choose me in these ways? You did help me. Why me when there was so many, many, many women you were working with?

[36:10] MARGA FRIPP: Yeah, well, finesse. I'm so grateful you came into my life. And I know you asked me this question before. Why me? Why me? I think, first of all, it was the right thing to do. And secondly, I saw in you something extraordinary. I saw a powerful, an empowered woman who wanted to change everything, not only in her life, not only to benefit you and your family, but you wanted to uplift lives. You wanted to see no more pain and suffering in the world. You did not want to see any other women left behind the way you were left behind. And I just could not bear seeing you suffer the way you did. I remember you told me when you told me that your mother is losing her sight, her vision, and. And she may not be able to see you because you didn't know if you were ever going to go back home. I saw that no mother should suffer the way your mom did. Your mom did not know if you were alive for years, for a very long time, and you couldn't communicate nor tell her what happened until you actually went back home. And I have to confess, too, that my mother is a survivor of domestic violence. And that I always felt that I could not save my mother, but I could save one woman. And you were one of the women that came into my life, and I chose to serve and to do what I can. And so I'm blessed that now you and my mom are friends and you're calling each other and you're holding hands even though you do not speak Romanian and she does not speak Chichewa. But I'm grateful that somehow this alchemy of love is healing you, is healing my mom, is healing all of us. And so forever grateful you're in my life. And I know I will continue to walk the journey with you as you are walking the journey with me. And together, we will up to lift, we will transform, and we will heal survivors and anyone else who needs help. And so you and I had practiced a little bit of Chichewa. So I'm going to tell you I love you forever in Chichewa, in Dimakukonda. Did I say it right?

[39:12] FAINESS LIPENGA: Yeah, you did say it correctly. Like manga. Thank you so much. I'm trying not to tear up. Thank you. Know that I'm so grateful. Thank you for choosing me. And you had changed my life forever, and I am grateful. That was nice.

[39:32] MARGA FRIPP: Thank you for coming into my life and being you. Love you.

[39:37] FAINESS LIPENGA: I love you, too.