Jason Klein and Gery Deer
Recorded
August 17, 2025
01:48:59
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Id:
osh000296
Description
One Small Step conversation partners Jason Klein (50) and Gery Deer (58) talk about their upbringings, experiences as independent thinkers in a political world, and creating a legacy without direct descendants.Subject Log / Time Code
Jason Klein (JK) about his wife's influence on his life.
JK talks about his father as a model for who he aspires to be and their connection.
Gery Deer (GD) talks about his mother as a force of nature and her ability to help people to understand the world around them.
JK talks about his father's problem solving and life outlook.
JK talks about learning the importance of family.
JK talks about his changing political views, started more liberal now more conservative, shares about interacting with diverse groups.
GD talks about his view of difference between personal values and political beliefs.
GD talks about how his family influences his politics.
JK talks about his independence among political sides.
JK talks about feeling out of place in social clubs where politics are not the main focus but come up.
GD talks about intergroup tension.
JK, who identifies conservatively, says he doesn't feel welcome in Republican groups because he doesn't fully agree.
GD talks about his view of organized religion.
JK talks about his support of religion-aligned politics.
GD talks about the impact of his parents' Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
JK talks about his father's change with Alzheimer's.
JK talks about how he wants to be remembered.
GD talks about how he wants to be remembered.
JK talks about shared humanity.
Participants
- Jason Klein
- Gery Deer