Jill Beebe and Timothy Huck

00:00 Okay, my name is Jill Beebe. I'm 73 years old. Today's date is December 28th, 2020, location, Shreveport, Louisiana name of Partners. Tim. And I'm sorry. I don't know, your last name and relationship to partner is one step.

00:24 What is it called? One small step?

00:29 My name is John. I'm 46 years old. Today date is December 28th? 2020. I'm in Bossier City. Louisiana partner is Jill Beebe. And my relationships of our partner is one small step.

00:47 Jill, go ahead and ask him the question. And then why did you want to do this interview today for the purpose of firmly? Believe that was fine. The more that we conversate with people who have different political views must. We find that we have more similarities and differences of what we want is more of the same thing different and I'd like to show the world that that we don't have a Blakely socially economically. We don't have to agree on everything to get along that. There doesn't have to be hate in in disagreement that there to be, literally, to opinion. And and not have to argue about it. And not have to change each other.

01:43 Well, that sounds good to me.

01:50 Well, I've had trouble in in the recent past, because

01:59 Thus, the things I want to talk about politically. Nobody wants to talk about them. They they they tend to I don't know, get more anime about it. I guess then I do and so I hadn't have a lot of questions about. What? There's Tim back. I got to him.

02:22 Can you hear me, Tim?

02:26 Turn the freezer. I'm trying to figure out here my feet that you'll froze up. Jill. You still there?

02:39 Okay. Well, and so the I want I like to talk politics and and I feel like I don't get all upset about it and a half and I feel like I'm respectful of other people's opinion. But you know, the last few years, I can't get anybody to talk about it, I guess, because they bring it on, you know, been out of shape or whatever. And, and I want to understand well home or do the interview because obviously, you do think along the same lines that I do, but even, they don't want to talk politics because, you know, that, you know, it said don't talk politics or religion and I guess they go by. But but I grew up in a family where we sat.

03:39 On the kitchen table and we talked about whatever and politics or whatever we wanted to. And so I'm kind of used to that and I can't find anybody that wants to do that. So that's why I wanted to do the interview.

04:00 So are we ready for the next question? Tim, who has been the most influential person in your life? And what did they teach you?

04:50 You know, that's so, probably one of the tougher questions that I, that I get.

04:57 And the more I think about it, I have to believe my, my father. He is both good and bad things. As a young child, not my father's always been self-employed outside boy, and he trying to talk later understanding, the P & L's, and yo inventory, payroll from extreme Highs are real or not, real deal. With other people. I have not always my friend, if you will do unto others, and I firmly believe that in and people say, I'm naive,

05:57 Jill thing out but my dad was. I mean, he seemed too, he was a people person more so than I am and he, he

06:12 Saul Good in everybody and things. That would just drive other people up the wall, he would just kind of chuckling about and you know, it me basically let other people be the way they were and so I picked up on that and I don't know that I'm as good at it as he is, but I do feel like I'm tolerant of a lot of folks.

06:40 And and just being around, it's not that he sat down at anytime and said this is what you need to be here. This is what you need to do. It's just the way he conducted his life that spoke to me or or I absorbed it growing up or whatever. And and and I do feel like

07:08 Everybody.

07:10 Has something good about him and sometimes it's hard to see. But if if if you look you know, I mean, yeah, they might not agree with you. That they have different life experiences that you haven't had in. So and you know, non-judgmental. My dad was very non-judgmental because and any always used to say, you know, walk a mile in my shoes and then and then talk to me about my situation or my circumstances, you know, if you

07:45 Have experienced what I've experienced, then you might be exactly where I am. And am so that's I don't know, that just kind of really spoke to me and then and so off I think I've carried that through as much as I can my whole life and that's that was invaluable to me.

08:12 Yeah, right. And, you know kids, your kids are learning from their parents are from the people around them weather.

08:24 Whether they're there want to be taught or not. I mean, just absorbing and they, and they mirror what they see. And so, that's I think what I have done as far as my dad was concerned. My mom.

08:41 Melissa.

08:44 Really ahead of her time. She was a dietitian at Confederate Memorial and

08:57 And so she was, you know, she worked outside the home, my dad owned a meat company and so he

09:07 Being the owner of the company he was able to take time off to take us to school to pick us up from school, 2 to attend the the field and stuff like that. So so I think my dad had more of an influence on me because he was around no more. And you know, it's it's not that Mom was I mean she worked and then she she turned her work.

09:36 She work from 6:36 a.m. To 2:30 in the afternoon so that she would be home when I got got home from school, but she never learned how to drive and so my dad was the chauffeur and everything else for where are growing up. So long story short. I was I was with him a lot more than I was Mom.

10:06 So, can you tell me about a story about any lessons you learned from your parents? And how does that shape? How you see the world today?

10:18 And these do you feel misunderstood by people who have different beliefs than you and house up.

11:04 Allergic to write a question. So I'm going to take them one at a time story about Maya like your father was self-employed and made as much time as possible with my mother and father worked together so that they thought was a lot of time for us, but unfortunately it was like kind of had to do was work. Also my little brother, my brother two years older than me. I had a pretty bad accident and lost and I over at my parents. Just been a lot of time traveling back and forth to New Orleans to see some of the best Sergeant Star Wars. Try to say goodbye and I end up losing it anyway.

12:02 In the process, my dad lost one of his company. Seattle, at that time. He had a pizza place. We had a real estate company. Buy does Real Estate, firm was an ERA franchise, but he also tomorrow coffees with the business park in the time of dealing with my my brother. My father. Lost his, his partner nesting over and cheated him out of the business and some and some other things, such as he had, given some power returning to his partner to do to operate business while he was gone and t o, I did, learn a couple of life lessons up from that one is to be very careful and cautious. As we can trust, especially when it comes to us, with the ability to make decisions for you or or or, or steal from you.

13:02 But I also learned that a relationship and someone you love your children, everything and I lost everything. But my brother and even though I had a resentment for at a time for a while, my brother and Ken, and myself, now that I am over. Well, that's difficult for me. I can't I don't know of any one particular instance. So,

13:40 Oh, really?

13:43 Big to understand.

13:50 And just to keep from getting lost. I will ask you the same question, then we'll move on to the second question. Can you give me a story of your father and and and, and what it called you?

14:25 What's a what's a statement earlier when you said I was a huge event that just made it to make it real simple. I'm not going to ask you answer your next question. How do I feel like I misunderstood strictly based off of GOP or the fact that identifies a Republican.

15:00 What is if you get this if you support Donald Trump a racist, if I change my phone. So you my best friend is definitely better than we consider me racist. The guy sitting next to me on my wedding. Cuz my best friend off of an African American road with me yesterday down to the Cowboys game back, which is one of my other buddies, but I wait with your misunderstood up of self-employed that I'm strictly just worried about my personal finances, 79 employees who all make above a living wage. And when I, when I start being concerned about my financial finances,

16:00 The business account, be some other things. I'm not just worry about me. I'm worried about my boys. Are the fact is, I could close by a few of my business has been robbed many years, but I all my boys would be laid off. The fire terminate left, lost lose their jobs would not be able to survive in March, when the governor closes down the first time I saw my back porch and cried like a child for my wife to not to check on the phone time, because not because it made out of his arm, I was still living the lifestyle. It either way because I had to call people in with me for channel 12 years and tell them that that their job is going to be eliminated from the light off because my business is going to be closed and in your trying to sit down and figure out how much, how long can I survive and how many feet

17:00 Sorry for how long and I think that I know a lot of media and a lot of people who don't have a, I don't have a real understanding of the reason why I'm here is because people see our differences and thank nothing but you can see the worst of the worst of the left and then we can decide to put everyone with the worst will happen every right to where she's right, but the fact is that most of us most of us are are are rightly in the Middle with Leslie Middle. So well, I guess I don't know. I must seem really sheltered. I didn't up my career in the legal field in and it was like, I always say I'm a good second-in-command. I'm not I'm not a go. Go go leader. I am organized, but I don't have any experience.

18:00 Hello and psoriasis iCarly, How do you spell? You know, it's really well, so I don't have the experiences of a real leader.

18:18 And so,

18:21 I don't know. I just and also my personality is one that is very reserved. And I don't say much. I've been very quiet, all all of my life. I was painfully shy and so

18:41 Just conversations, don't come easily for me. So that being said.

18:51 A lot of people don't know what I think. I'm real good about keeping my mouth. Shut, especially if I'm in the minority. And so maybe a lot of people think that I think the way they do just because I don't say anything otherwise,

19:14 So I don't really know who or what they think of me or if they even know what I think. Because

19:24 In my experience, a lot of people just like to talk about what they think. And and so they they do that and and then

19:35 They don't ask me what I think and and and I don't volunteer it.

19:40 So, I don't know. I mean, you know, it's like another one of these questions was something about somebody who says bad things about you. Well hell, I wouldn't know if anybody said that cuz I don't say it to my face and nobody's going to tell me, you know, what they said about you, you know, so that I couldn't answer that question either.

20:21 No, no, I wish I had a next-door neighbor. That was as much to the right as I am to the left and it was very hard to, to have a decent discussion with him. And and so I quit trying because he was not interested in what I had to say. He knew what he's going in and he did not hesitate to let me know and that was definitely the areas with the internet. Are they not the people I've come across or not? That interested in what I have to say. They they they know, you know, they want to put out there what they think and that's all accounts for them. So.

21:44 Wow.

21:59 I hate that for you because of my best friend a year or two earlier is is is Astana Lebanon. Democrat my new lunch, every Friday with a large group of people who are close friends better. Friends. We have Republicans Democrats and independents, African American Caucasian Asian. We are people with arrest master's degrees, doctors degrees, and have to drop out where I could put make seven figures a year of people who make $37,000 a year and we discuss every subject at 3 is. And and I'm I'm, I'm blessed to have that in my life because I'm able to see but also do unfortunately, run into the people who who are, who are disrespectful about the difference between you and I hate that.

22:59 Phil is the both parties at that a Time have been divisive there. There's going to be a speech that.

23:10 What is Donald Trump cuz he was device of choice, but there's going to be an answer for that. I think a lot of my political views derives from my life experience. And at one point in my life. I was a single mother of two preschool kids daughters, and I was telling her about your ex-husband, was paying $250 a month child support.

23:59 And that was not enough to pay the rent and buy groceries and so for, I don't know. I can't remember how long a time it was, but for some period of time, I was on food stamps.

24:16 And if it was a lifesaver, I couldn't have gotten along without it. And so I resent the people who think that only deadbeats get welfare because I got welfare and I was working, you know, and and so I do get a tad angry at people who

24:41 You know who sings it, that people are on welfare, just so they don't have to work or whatever.

24:50 And so I know what it's like to to be tore and and have to have the food stamps. And I do remember there used to be up. The the Brookshire's on Kings Highway used to be Safeway a long long time ago. And and I was living in that neighborhood at the time and I shopped there and they used to have macaroni boxes of macaroni and cheese on five for a dollar on that was on a special.

25:31 And so, you know, at times I would run out of money before before I got paid. And so the girls and I would go to Safeway and get 5.

25:43 Boxes of macaroni and cheese. And we would have macaroni and cheese for 5 days, or however long until until I got paid and

25:57 So I know, I know what it's like and I resent.

26:03 The the attitude of a lot of the people that speak out about being on welfare because it and and also I read something not too long ago about most of the people who are on welfare or elderly folks who whose Social Security doesn't stretch.

26:28 Far enough and in or they can't work. And it's not an and it's always portrayed as you know, just lazy people who don't want to have a job and blah blah blah. At least that's what I that's

26:45 The opinion that I've heard most often, so. So all that to say that's that's why I tend the Democrats to me.

26:58 Embody that.

27:02 I deal or or whatever idea.

27:07 Of of helping people less fortunate than you and in.

27:15 Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong people. But the Republicans are more more apt to say. Well I brought myself up by my bootstraps. And so everybody ought to do that. And and if you're not you're lazy and you don't deserve to be on welfare, and so maybe, you know, my opinions are skewed or biased or whatever. But anyway, that's where I stand.

28:27 Remember that everyone's everyone's opinions are based off of life experiences and you can run into more than one person who has, who has probably had that sucks. Maybe they were fortunate enough to never have been down and out. Maybe they're fortunate to have no family members at her butt down there for her. It was enough, not to care. The reality is, for me. I don't, I don't personally, I believe hand up my handout. I believe that, that, that the governor since you can't have people starving. You can't have people dying on the street. You can have people bring home in, in the richest country in the world and it's just not acceptable. At the same time. There is no use of the system that needs to be fed. I've never seen a call to call Tiffany s. Let's do away with the program was doing away with making sure children.

29:27 Pretty sure we Republicans and Democrats vote. We run them out real quick, but I have to, but I have seen one that needs to be done. Been and seen abuse of the system that actually hurts a person who really does need. And that would be kind of one of my reasons for my personal belief, but that's not really for the majority of ma. Ma Republican, Hughes come from mama calling juice. Come from being overtaxed, as a self-employed, by the time, I finished matching payroll taxes. By the time I finish paying all of my expenses. And then, you know, I keep every little bitty bill because of how highly on taxes as they think it'd be quite a bit harder. And at one point,

30:27 Local, small businesses, small business owners. And I'm not big enough to get the great big corporate tax breaks. And you know, what about to spend more money on an account to save taxes a year and then I met and so, yo, and an end, so I obviously for the, the, the middle, the middle guy not necessarily smaller because that's me, I believe in the right to bear arms or constitutionalist in that in that department, and America's first,

31:15 I believe in are in a clear easily. Understood path to citizenship in a clear easily understood cat's coming to the country to take care of her. And so that that's kind of where where where I'm going right to the right. The right loses me on, on certain issues also, so I don't, I don't fall with the asset with a party and I'm going to stay with the party. I have to find that I am, I'm at least I could see where work, where we fought and where we fall short in and that's what I don't think enough people get to six.

32:00 Yes, please. Do. We only have a few minutes left? So I thought I'd love to ask him and in love to have to answer the same question on as far as. As you do you ever fill three? I totally agree. I think that is a big problem in our society today. And then our politics is that we're so cold. On. The other side is not going to give an inch. We are going to go nowhere until we sit down and start talking to. This is why I wanted to do this cuz I want to hear the other side. I want to see if I can, you know, come up with any kind of

32:58 Consensus. I mean we have got to compromise and and that the mood of the country is not there right now and they're not, they're saying I'm right and you're all are wrong and and and it's like they they're not interested in.

33:23 Compromising and in finding a solution and so yes, I agree that both sides are blind to their own faults and it and pointing the finger at the other side. And I just don't think we can go forward until we get over that somehow. And I don't know.

33:47 It. What if it's? I don't know how that's going to be done. Whether it's going to be a a certain kind of President that's going to bring everybody together. I don't know. But

34:32 Right.

34:38 I wish it was going to be that easy. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a one standard person. I believe that we should have them stated. I believe restaurant standard, that me and you should hold our own party to the sinks dinner with other parties. And and I, unfortunately, also believe that Republican voting through my own personal views, and eyes are starting to what got away with stuff that bad. If a democrat in the, I would definitely call them out because Democrats get away with it in the wrong party. Doesn't called Nancy Pelosi in charge of the house. Get a ton of investigating of politicians and political Affiliates in the last 4 years and get zero on Democrats. And that's it. And that should be something that's strange about it because we can't say that none of them and, you know, Republican

35:38 Send it pretty much, get a lot of the best gift Democrats and Republicans. And you said you don't know where to start to fix it. But but I but I, I kind of have an idea worth trying to fix it and it it starts, it starts right here and then it starts with us holding our own party equally accountable and and and it start as us getting along instead and I really appreciate and PR for putting this thing together because I think that's what it's going to say. Since people may be at the Grassroots level and no sitting down and talking about though. He's fine. Should we do on a daily basis? So I can even though

36:38 Nancy. Nancy Pelosi, very device.

36:48 She digs her heels in and so and so the leaders right now are just not interested in, in.

36:58 Making things better. They only want to make their own.

37:03 40 better, and that's on both sides. And

37:16 Russel Wright.

37:47 It's it really is. And it's just it's disturbing to me because I because I believe in love thy neighbor, not hate thy neighbor has take photos for dinner Until the End M. Really. I hope that you got a better View today of the fact that there are people who are and I'm glad I'm glad you talked to somebody like you, but I thought he was willing to talk about it in a sensible manner, donut a call and cancel alarm and I appreciate your sharing your views and I hope you done the same.

38:47 Victor audit, you eat. It didn't end up using.

39:21 I have enough appreciate to show your views and decide.

39:26 All right, that seems like a good place to add a bit right now as I'm going to