Kathleen Hagan and Larry Hagan

00:00 Is Kathleen Hagan? I'm 57 years old. Today is Wednesday, July 29th, 29 2020 and I'm in Pullman Washington with my father Larry Hagan a little bit older than her.

00:18 I just turned 89 about 2 weeks ago.

00:25 Well living photo Washington Ave. Been here for 7 years. Now being a kid. I'm always fascinated by your stories. But you know when we're in groups of people I can see other people, you know, also like okay. Well gasoline likes to have you told a story about getting into air traffic control and why I told that field initially I am taking some courses in high school in aviation.

01:07 And then I went to work after I getting out of high school going to reorder C.

01:13 During the summer months when Korea broke out.

01:17 And naturally I'm whole bunch of us.

01:21 1 guys said we were going to service.

01:26 So what I was doing the Levi.

01:29 Montana if you never seen the ocean before I just wanted to join the Navy so we join the Navy and this was I think in August of 1950.

01:49 This after Korea broke out.

01:52 Getting sworn into the Navy going down to basic training a hundred and some people might basic training camp.

02:02 Company

02:05 Laal, give us a test where they call this guy in my class. My company. I came in Lumber third, so they gave me a choice of what I might go into after explaining.

02:28 I picked Aviation with the possibility to get into Flight Training.

02:33 Well, that's true.

02:34 Basic training has ended.

02:37 That's enough talk to Memphis, Tennessee, which was the

02:41 The aviation training school

02:49 Williams Joyce

02:51 Well actually was was already a choice that is a bunch of classes to see what we were interested in and then you write down your dreams.

03:03 Well after we gave you a traffic control that's for me.

03:08 Do I put down air traffic control? Number one?

03:13 The following choices for Dropper 2 and 3

03:17 They tried to talk me out of number one because I said there's only going to be three people. I was last selected for a traffic.

03:24 Which time three times in a row I could down air traffic control number one.

03:29 And ends up getting a history of us with air traffic control School in Olathe, Kansas.

03:40 After getting out of basic training we're supposed to. It's something I'll leave time or anytime with proper medical school. We had about two weeks before I got my bike back.

04:14 Yeah, they're set my timer that came back to air traffic control School, Olathe, Kansas.

04:25 And then after graduation they gave you a choice of different.

04:31 Airport should I go to

04:34 That my first choice was Seattle working.

04:39 That's the one with the other controllers. That was his phone. So he talk to you in the face. So I went to the California Naval Air Station concerns for the song coming up.

04:55 I spent that you don't have to earn the narcotic control Vizio. Don't get all we had.

05:04 That one that one wasn't only maybe you also had a civilian Transportation was going to say that and Alameda.

05:24 Local control to Hawaii

05:39 Those photos

05:47 Happy for what is that.

05:54 Safeway

05:59 But only those five of them bills and one burned need me at 8208 218-239-2482 to burn so these would fly from San Francisco to Hawaii State Farm Show tickets a week.

06:25 Never did get all the money. I remember these numbers that they like that it has the biggest engines so they can load it down heaviest. We're taking off and then get to go going down to see Lane and far off of the jail bottles.

07:12 Well, thank you for one, now. They like that and one of these c-47s.

07:41 Which is a same as a DC-3.

07:45 Was there a National Guard came in there one day and

07:49 Hey, are you all day long? And I'm getting ready to leave.

07:55 That was working. The seaplane position. Most of the airport is also.

08:01 And yes, I do get ready for takeoff.

08:05 Do I take off after coordinating with the other controller and he pulled out there and tell me you will look right?

08:13 But stop them right there on the ramp.

08:16 And got on my block.

08:23 In the aircraft is red, and they put that in there. So they know better doesn't flip them with that on there and take it off probably would have made it if you didn't have any other fallen, so well, we're busy he would probably embarrassed because of his daughter was on board.

09:08 And anyway, that was

09:16 And went to Kodiak, Alaska.

09:20 The transition from Alameda to Kodiak where you just do every year and 1/2 you had to go then you can stay as long as three years and one facility.

09:43 Tell him to take it off and drop your mother off at home.

09:50 Seattle catcher Navy flight up the Kodiak, Alaska

09:58 That was still going on Nickelodeon.

10:13 Spare the Air map

10:16 Stories do you have for weather up there in February? We went out a lot of survival training.

10:34 Reminder and it rained on us Google Earth.

10:54 I'm glad I got out of service and

10:57 They look terrible.

10:59 Joyce's want to do one wants to go to another on Facebook. So today we're going to my last night for so late, which I didn't like I got all there was to see a.m.

11:15 LOL

11:17 Lb, suena Kodiak am I

11:22 Full-time employment with the CAA University in ROTC and

11:31 Do you work for the CIA in 1957 or number 54 and resigned in 55 today?

12:05 Get out of the get back into the CIA back in the towers.

12:11 The 1st hour

12:28 The control tower was a roller Force Tower from World War II.

12:35 Wooden structure 110 feet tall

12:38 All outside stairway

12:42 During the winter time. I see outside stairway.

12:46 And for the scape are there in case of fire when a rule that would throw the set of the structure which all right now?

12:58 What's 3?

13:18 I see there for 3 years.

13:20 And just as I was leaving, they're building a new control tower of trouble building where they play their craft files license. So that was more interested in smaller friends and big ones.

13:51 Well, I get the other airports in, Oregon.

13:55 And that they have their own billing service.

14:01 And so I got you. The fly's rabbits for two years was also working for the FAA.

14:11 Which is called Mercy flights.

14:17 And then

14:24 As a person

14:30 Well women

14:33 Los Angeles to Colombia

14:43 Family Dollar Los Angeles, 9th, Santa Monica

14:57 Unless you clear my 12 to

15:01 8500 feet

15:03 Why do all coming over the mountain pass just to the north of Los Angeles?

15:10 And all the sudden we're.

15:19 I dropped off your patient by then.

15:45 Panda yelling at 1 to look at the chart or something so he can turn the lights on in the world.

16:12 Will open up a new tower there for 6 months.

16:30 It is not a very good to get together and we have no dinner one night metal album. They met us for us when it's more of a

16:50 The friendly operation when you get into a small airport like that, you know.

16:57 What I was there for just six months because the family out there our family for all my father died.

17:04 After Ever After

17:18 What city am I going from Spokane to Oregon then back up to where I spent 11 years and that's where I come in.

17:37 You're a weirdo.

17:40 Distance Boston to Rhode Island

17:44 California

17:49 Are you?

17:53 Play cuz I've already had experience and getting into new tower and getting.

18:13 That little lot of people that are flying.

18:17 Timer 15 16 years of government service has some great stories from Santa Rosa to your friend.

18:35 Yes.

18:37 Rodger Sharon

18:41 Anyway, please join.

18:43 He was a

18:46 Senior Captain with ballet on world Airways

18:51 He started flying on the flying boats flying across the Atlantic War.

18:58 Are we inside we settled out of money in Santa Rosa, California?

19:10 But they had a British tiger moth.

19:14 Which is the wife playing?

19:20 British English aircraft Building 43

19:31 With a reused is trainers in England.

19:41 How's everyone in the upper left pain from back then?

20:02 He got animal cell.

20:08 And then he transferred over to some other airlines cuz he's flying out, Florida.

20:17 And no military British again.

20:22 There's a fighter.

20:30 Hawker Sea Fury come back

20:44 Las Vegas in the mountains out there today

20:51 Nearly $40 bills.

21:01 It's just been a real good experience a lot of things happening a lot of people.

21:09 Save a few of them.

21:13 Story about when you save someone.

21:15 I think you were in, Oregon.

21:30 I think it's out of Sacramento and just having a private pilot's license and his family were going up in some place in northern, Oregon to Washington.

21:40 And that is coming to Southern, Oregon.

21:44 Intern find the airport.

21:47 Well, I got to lift your arm bar back to the Air Force.

21:51 Well, don't talk to him and find out he didn't.

21:59 So explain The Waltons

22:09 Borderlands 2 released

22:13 And someplace

22:18 That ain't no mountain then all the sudden you see an accident and it becomes serious.

22:37 You know what you were 18 when you started it, you know.

22:48 Traffic is that you have a decision to make you don't have time to sit down and figure it out. You have to make a decision. It's a lot of you is planning ahead of a problem.

23:08 Navigation something comes up that you don't have any control over like a

23:15 I think it's a student that lost in California on the couch wall Pillars of the Earth.

23:29 It was bad weather. I mean maybe.

23:42 Forza coffee shop at guess those knockout or whether dropped enough that it is getting kind of eggs, and we asked him if he wanted to go. What's that? So

24:05 So he did.

24:10 Call for special VFR by this time Lewis on local control.

24:14 Emma special VFR clearance Auto controls, Illinois

24:24 Half hour 40 minutes later

24:29 Over the emergency frequency. I come to this call pan pan pan, which is like, okay so Lewis.

24:53 I told him it was like

25:06 So I started.

25:17 How to check another 30 to 40 minutes to get him situated to where I am over at over the canyon over the valley south of the airport that by this time of the weather in Brooklyn.

25:35 So I got them all the valley headed towards the airport.

25:40 Zelda told about the carburetor 8N the power back.

25:53 Airport does broccoli have going on down on the airport and they had the emergency frequency to listen to the whole thing.

26:18 Young Living

26:24 And he won't let her to the original having some Los Angeles please sings with her daughter's because it wasn't always somebody up there that

26:42 Bordadora made out of

26:52 This place

26:54 I'm getting located.

27:07 Over

27:20 So I called and asked him and his transmission is breaking up.

27:25 Well, by the way on the wheel or call the final.

27:31 So, what are you doing?

27:46 Who handed the microphone over to you because he wasn't a pilot. Is it unusual?

28:09 I don't know.

28:13 47 years since I've been doing this.

28:23 The radar for 3 years

28:27 And had a heart attack when I was getting ready to go to work one day and didn't realize until I started to working at it again with.

28:36 And your mother throwing back home?

28:43 And because I'm having a heart attack I couldn't pass by this way anymore. So

28:49 Bank of America retirement

28:52 Pepper

28:53 45 years in air traffic controller

29:02 10 hours. I like it working in the flower. We can see what's going on in the radar. It's like working night shift all the time. Cuz cuz I remember coming in there any of the big giant room right next to it with a computers, which is probably capable of doing what for cell phones. Do they still take me to High V what they called him.

29:52 Anyway

30:14 Well, that one was interesting to because that one you also had military traffic and traffic at 4 and 1/2 miles apart.

30:29 Welding spy plane flying and all the air traffic to Arcadia coffee plus we have

30:48 Air National Guard

30:55 And then we'll have all the gloves painting from Phoenix come down there like the stories, you know, we're kind of close to the Mexico border every day about do you know you can see

31:21 In certain conditions you could see actually inside the cars or something Highway Patrol the Sheriff Department police department.

31:38 LS1 Highway Patrol

31:43 It was fine. I'm between the airports and I have they called us because it's so close to the airport.

31:49 And I told myself this traffic about 11 and 2 miles slow moving probably on the ground. And normally we wouldn't get drunk at least 40 miles an hour or you might be at 2.

32:07 Cars and the radar thought it was the same one.

32:10 And so he's okay just a little bit later. I said there's another one down there fast moving fast moving.

32:30 Better that's all that power.

32:37 Is going back to Mexico and for some reason I thought it was going on to Phoenix. I had about 10 miles before I noticed you didn't say a word.

33:04 Pandora

33:07 It is interesting up there to do with them after I get out of it after a heart attack and the cardiologist gave me five years to live.

33:20 405 years old 41 years ago

33:27 Yeah, I feel better now.

33:39 IFunny got my medical bag so I can fly again in the Bank of America back, but I still did some flying anyway for the airport manager for two years in California.

34:07 And I supposed to get a job a full-time job proposition 14 came to an end when he was available.

34:16 Remember that one so I went to work for airline there as a dispatcher in work them for about a year and a half.

34:23 What day was it worthwhile with the free benefits?

34:37 What know you were a little rumor hotel right on the beach $25 a night and in the airliner?

35:18 When you're working for the airline, and I remember you often. You know what you seem to be on call and would be called out. They all know so weather Observer, so I'ma need weather when the tower was close. I can give me a call. I'm at you on call.

35:44 What is the weather at midnight Road someplace in the morning?

35:53 Bananas

35:56 I hope it has every morning you and Mom would go out to the end. So boring with movement.

36:12 It's been a good life looking back on us 89 years of good time planned out, but I think I planned it all worked out well and Joanne.

36:38 Enjoy the people at work more still there one time and his lawyer Jeff, okay.