Linda Hasty and Charles Scriven

00:00 It is Thursday, July 1st 2021. We are making this recording in Sumter, South Carolina. My name is Linda Hasty, and I'm going to talk to my oldest brother. Charles driven was a former Army.

00:19 Soldier, VA. And apparently several things that I don't know about the interview and see where it goes. Good afternoon. My name is Charles scriven. And today is one July 2021, and the relationship with the horse. Here is my sister.

00:56 Okay. Well, I think one thing I wanted to talk about is how you got the name. Because that's the only name I knew for years. So how did the you come with the name and your dad? And I have spent a lot of time at my at my grandparents. And so there is was Uncle and I guess I was the smallest one there and that's how that name got a tagged on me and it's been charging for the last 67 years. I remember, actually our mother is a twin MOS hurt when I don't know which one is the oldest.

01:54 She was the boss. Anyway, so it doesn't matter, Johnson and Fanny gas were there in 54?

02:11 So that's so see. We get we have a roof that we can follow back and that how everyone else thought of going to Philadelphia. So which one year? Ago. Her name was Kate. Billups. And with her, I will go and spend the Summers prior to my, my graduation. And I, as I was told, that's how this recognition and started of us meeting South going to the North during the summer and spending it without relatives there.

02:57 So what are you can save in the most enjoyable time? And also the worst time you had in Philadelphia and the most enjoyable time there was first of all coming from a small. Something and something was back then where everything shuts down at 6 in the afternoon and going to Philadelphia where the city was just being able to travel to sit in there and seeing the different sites there. And first of all here, and then going to Independence, whole studying school, and had the opportunity to go and visit it. And see that what you were steady was actually a place. There was that and the City.

03:57 Allergic quite well, the most disappointing that time they almost had was

04:03 And I just want it just was the culture. There is people wasn't as outgoing and friendly as it is here in South Carolina because you don't have to know a person. Write they say, hey, how you doing? You. No good day or good morning, whatever it is and you don't have that interaction there. So it took a little while for me to adjust to it and everything went on from there and in the early seventies when schools were just coming at least in gas and we had just become the house. Where you at that party in the schools.

04:58 Slowly became desegregated our yes. Yes. I was my freshman year.

05:10 In my freshman year, freshman year was attended at the predominant black school, which is called Lincoln High School. That was the department of black school here. That was my first year there in June. And as we went to my sophomore year, that's when. Where we took the two different campuses. The black school, and then everyone's where was the predominant white school? That's the beginning of 1971 was the first

06:04 Integrated class that graduated from Richard and converted into set, the high school and in 1972, the second year that was right here, but I graduated from Sumter High School.

06:21 So did y'all have any terminal and well, I know everyone has. He didn't know how that you was going to go. But did you have any serious?

06:34 No, I didn't answer prize in there. I guess there was a few.

06:40 Different terminology with a few calls and stuff was here and there. But nothing major during my, when it was in my next next three years that I was there. I think, right there. I'll send you a year, which my stitching, you, you should have been well, and I look at the junior year. I didn't see anything. We had that in reference to how things were being done. But those were her job, so it didn't write that. So to speak having a shit down or none of that during my time that I was there to replace.

07:20 Tell you, we were two totally different in Alabama and Mississippi school closures on this year and sausage. I'm cutting him there and told me about coming in on the bus and the fact that they were sprayed down with water. All the little children.

08:12 Upon upon graduation there. That's where I really life events took place. Just prior to graduation my mother on Saturday morning, and I'm thinking maybe a week or so before graduation. And and I sprung that question on me right there and I didn't really have a sufficient answer to come back with. So as a young teenager. I don't know. And she thought for a moment and said, but you will be doing that here. So that told me right then that I need to get in the plan as to what I was doing for this month. Late May going into June. So I had too much back there. Just to put together a plan.

09:12 Are doing that particular time but nothing beyond that. I was paying out. So as we got into late summer back up, that kind of put a damper on my summer because I'm still enjoying the summer. So I went ahead on and that we were there. So it was so another at that, popped into my head.

10:24 Dial me. What the next up? And I went and talked with the recruiter and the recruiter so he'll get my plan better come together real quick so I can. So we're going to join you. I'm sure that's what you want to do and I stuck to it and only a bird a weekend before Labor Day. That's when I went to the as we call it.

11:11 And that's where you go and you get your physical and they do your testing and all these different things. I guess. It's on Labor Day weekend. And so I went that Friday or Thursday or Friday, and then they process I'm on that Friday. So we had to stay over the weekend and then the process to begin until that following Tuesday and that whole weekend. I was thinking I'm a stick it out. And so I did in the process when I also have a blessed day. And didn't get the opportunity to come back home, till maybe the middle of October.

12:11 We can and then from there, we graduated graduated prior to Christmas time. And then started what we call a bath in the

12:31 I wasn't able to.

12:35 At the for Christmas break and prior to that dance by that. I was so I had to stay pretty much hospitalized during the whole what they call breaking cycle when you get there at 10. So I didn't I didn't I got a few days back up right after New Year's and then I finish up my training and then as a

13:19 18 year old. I was sent to Germany with Jared and you're going from Sumter to Germany, bergheim Germany. So that was the end of the draft, the draftees in a picture, or just beginning yet, and they only had two years. So most of them.

14:02 Completed college. Are we getting ready to go to college? And so those kind of videos that they're going to school and then because you at the end of the Vietnam era and that's going to be a whole lot of changes and you don't want to be caught up in that. So they don't send the picture will be with them and a day away and they got me started taking night courses, begin to Nightcore. So when you go back there and you apply for whatever College you're going to apply for that, you have these pretty much out of the way. And so I started that and he sent me a picture and I got accepted.

15:02 What you did was called Barber College, college with in the emerging with a merge, don't stew together. And we have what now is Midland Technical College?

15:21 So I completed my 2-year turn and return back. I was discharged, but I had additional six years more heavily during the reserves. Will there be a National Guard and tree? Of course, there, and then I applied for USC USC, as I would say, I was a part of the National Guard's, hearing something. And then I did a three, three years with them. And then as I was living,

16:12 Join the Army Reserves there. And so I didn't have to travel back and forth as much. And I did that, and I'm waiting for a phone call. And I went to Colorado and at Fort Carson Colorado there. And I was doing my annual training, he was a recruiter and he we was talkin and he said, I thought you were active duty.

17:12 Ben said, well, if you ever want to go or not. Give me a, give me a call. And I, I was, I was working at time out there and

17:30 Dissatisfied with what I was doing and I thought so. I said, you know what?

17:35 But maybe your call. So I called them and call them up and see if her appointment, he sent me with the local or recruited here. And so be it. I went back to active duty and I stayed there for 31 years.

17:53 30 yd you realize when you can't keep somebody on a job, but you were in Germany. What difference was it in? 1974 and a gentleman that I talked to get there after World War. I got you in 73 and

18:31 I was sent to a smaller area.

18:44 50 miles from Wurzburg, Germany and maybe about 75 80 miles an hour on post as we called it, right. There was outside and I guess the crowd that we were right there, not your typical, but

19:33 That little small portable small Village area, small and quaint, compared to that was. So I travel in and around and outside to your largest cities frankfurt's to guard, you know? Hello.

20:10 And it's just the

20:13 August 3rd, that's the culture that was there too much, you see him walking riding the bike and thinks of the sort rather do the factor. What I did. So I was always out about walking and learning. Then I found out what the best way to hear again, to emerge yourself in that culture, there is to be out and talk with the locals. So I did and I return back return back in 19 1990.

21:13 It was a hustle and bustle a piece that I was at. So, I was learning from prior and right there is

21:36 Immerse yourself in the community that you there in and make an attempt to learn the language helps out tremendously.

21:46 You know, South Carolina has a large population of Charity children. That not only are Germans would actually speak to miss. It makes for interesting conversation and some time realizing that your culture isn't so much different from their culture year. I give a end-of-the-year party and one of the ladies asked me, could she help me? Okay, we have tea and I hate exactly the team.

22:41 Although she was from Germany. It was like she was just one of us that do and you probably heard it is called what it is. He has around, it puts on this during the year and what you doing what it is and then what happened at the end of the March, it would have a big ass tits it up, and they would normally have the Bandit inside of there and then and see if they're notoriously beer, you know, that's going to be

23:41 They have some type of what does a place where there's a mug or something right there. So that here again, that represent that and that's all myself going to. And the most important part of it was at the end of it, when you sit there at the tent. Because someone always be a lot of change right there about the time about the town and things of that sort on you.

24:41 Time I have had their is with that, and I bought smart watches. It got to the point where I would just, you know, all the stars. They would have won on Thursday, but the moment on Saturday 3.5 miles, but normally the column podcast.

25:41 You will cost to have a torch and you would go around with the trail at they got it laid out for that text. You through the town, the areas in the forest, or whatever the case may be. Okay. Now, you spent 31 years in the military. So what did you do when you finally decided you were ready to leave when I return back there?

26:11 I wanted to do what I had done previously in my room because I initially was a communicator. I was doing that for me to call install telephone and communication, as we came out to our kind of our first sergeant said he needed to know because that it was like I said, so he said what?

27:09 So I said, Well, it can't be any worse than this is logistics. You handle all of the request in the fuel efficient housing and doing my second half of my career there. I was a Quartermaster.

27:41 And so that's what I did. I became a signal or decision. So that means that I have to encounter a couple of things, such as Transportation. How do you move 700? Something people wrap their business? How do you write their get parts and stuff in the Attic Soul as of now, in charge of those who is my transportation?

28:51 Didn't even know part of messed it all over the definite years do 45. He currently resides in Winston-Salem. And she would Drive, Elgin, South Carolina and she has three daughters.

29:50 And is currently now. He's in, North Carolina.

30:02 Well, that concludes the interview for today, and hopefully Charles will be doing another interview later on in the year. So, we thank you for listening. And this has been Linda Hasty and Charles East ribbon on South and Columbia, South Carolina, July 1st 2020. Thank you. And have a great day.