Aliah Hall and Shareka Hall (Gregory)

Recorded June 7, 2013 Archived July 3, 2013 48:31 minutes
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Aliah Hall (35) and her sister Shareka Hall (29) remember their father, who passed away when Shareka was 13. They talk the influence of his death on their family, their young adulthoods, and their relationship with each other.

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S on her memories of her father who died when she was 13.
S remembers coming home from school to an empty house. Her mom called and said her dad was in the hospital. She talks about her memories of visiting him there.
S talks about the way her dad looked in the hospital bed and how he reacted when she and A came into the room. She remembers A waking her up early in the morning one day to tell S that their father had died.
S on her father's funeral.
A says it's funny that S remembers so much because A remembers very little. A talks about her memories of her father's death. She was in the middle of final exams at college when he went to the hospital.
A says it wasn't until after he died that she and S learned he had bone marrow cancer. Their mother was often sick; S had often seen her mom go to the hospital and then return, so she never considered that her dad might actually die while there. S says she now hates hospitals.
A remembers her dad asking her to bring him the latest edition of the church magazine to the hospital. She didn't take it to him before he died. She still thinks about that often, and talks about how it affects her.
A remembers her dad's mom, Grandma Katherine, and his 9 brothers coming to the hospital. A remembers her dad's physical transformation as he became more sick and being with his extended family during his final weeks.
S on how her life changed after losing a parent. She says it makes her worried that she will lose her husband and have to parent on her own.
S says she thinks she distanced herself from her mom after her dad died because she didn't want it to be so painful when she dies.
A: mom got the short end of the stick, because they overlooked their dad's faults after his death but still get frustrated with their mom.
A says she had already emotionally prepared for the death of her mother because she was in the hospital so often, but her dad's death came as a shock. A and S talk about grief.
S talks about the differences in the way everyone in the family grieves.
S says she wishes she had more experiences with her dad, but is appreciative that A has always told her stories.
S talks about her younger brothers Ethan and Spencer and how they all got cheated out of time with their dad.
A on talking to friends who've also lost parents and her perception of the world "without a daddy." She says it's made her more courageous because she's already experienced "the worst thing that can happen to you."
A says her father is now a constant presence in her life. She also wishes she and her siblings could get together and talk about him more often.
S on how her father's death ultimately strengthened her faith. Recalls praying for her dad's blessing when she felt sick.
A says her dad didn't hold on to anger, and that he would be proud of S's positive attitude. She describes learning about racism for the first time and the examples her parents set for their children.
A says S gets her tenderness and kindness from their father.
A says it's hard to go through big life changes (specifically getting married) without her father.
S says she plans to use James, her father's name, as her son's middle name. She talks about her job as a teacher and how her students react to hearing about her loss.
A says she loves and appreciates S, and that she reminds her of their father. They thank each other for being present for the interview.
S says she's very appreciative for A's support and that their father's death has brought them closer.

Participants

  • Aliah Hall
  • Shareka Hall (Gregory)

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Outreach

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00:03 My name is Aaliyah Hall. I am 35 years old is June 7th 2013 Thor at Primary Children's in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I'm going to entering my sister.

00:17 My name is shareka Hall. I'm 29. It is June 7th 2013. I'm at Primary Children's in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I'm going to be interviewed by my sister.

00:31 So freaked out when when dad died.

00:37 You were only thirteen yes, but do you remember what do you remember about that?

00:45 I remember the Christmas before.

00:53 That I think it was the Christmas before the dad was like sick and so he was in bed most of the time and that was a good Christmas like we

01:10 Not that we never talk what you wanted but had to seem like we had got extra what we wanted and then it seems like life went on as normal.

01:28 And then I remember coming home from school one day and Mom wasn't home and nobody was home, which was unusual. Somebody was usually home by time. I get home from school.

01:46 And then everybody kind of started trickling in and Mom still wasn't home. And so that was extra weird. And then I remember I think she called and was like your dad's in the hospital. You guys need to come over and so we did and all kind of a blur after that like I remember going like I remember that was the first time I'd ever missed school which for me that's huge. And so that was I knew something was wrong then like really wrong and I remember going to the hospital every day.

02:37 And I remember.

02:39 Family members that I'd never met coming from out of town and I remember dad being in hospital bed. I'm just looking.

02:53 Really sick and I remember crying a lot and

03:05 I remember I would hide underneath the chairs in the waiting room cuz I don't want everybody to see me cry and I remember Grandma coming in and being grandma.

03:21 And then I remember us having to go back and say bye to Dad and that was really hard because he would

03:36 Get really excited when he came in and his heart beat when I start going faster, and I couldn't really respond to us and

03:47 And I just remember thinking.

03:51 And he just looked really sick and I never had seen my dad look so frail in my life. And that was very hard. And I remember

04:02 Chain, 2mm my apps okay to die because we would be okay and

04:12 And then I remember leaving the room and I remember.

04:17 Going home, and then it's probably like the next day. I remember you waking me up pretty early in the morning to tell me that Dad had died and I

04:32 Like outside AJ could comprehend it but at that moment, it was just like I'm tired. Like I've already been emotionally drained for the last week. I can't function with this news. So I just kind of

04:52 Went back to bed and I guess dealt with it as well as a thirteen-year-old deals with it when I woke up and then I remember everything else that was really fast and I remember going to funeral and sitting in the front row right next to casket thanking a weird. It was for that. My dad was in the box and he was like right there and I remember there was lots of people there and everybody kept saying, I'm sorry and I kept thinking why are you why don't you talking to me? Like just leave me alone. And then I remember going to grave.

05:38 And I just remember going and that was it. And then I remember we had like

05:47 But it hurts afterwards and then I remember.

05:54 Stay at home and being sad and then wanting to go back to school because I was tired of being at home and crying and everybody being sad.

06:09 I don't remember.

06:11 Most of that

06:13 Oops, all I remember.

06:17 Monsta bats sewing clear part like the rest of it's pretty

06:22 Blurry

06:27 I don't know what else to say.

06:35 So I remember what I remember is that dad died really fast. Remember he went into the hospital May 1st, and he passed on the 13th, and it was really

06:51 That at first when they told us that Dad was sick like they're like, oh Dad's in the hospital. Like I didn't think very much of it. Like I was in college at the time and it was like almost for finals and things and the first week. He was in the hospital I go to visit him after I got out of school and I wasn't really worried about it like the doctors were saying or we're just going to run some tests and he's losing blood, but we don't know from where

07:28 It wasn't till after he died that they told us he had bone marrow cancer.

07:35 Until that was

07:39 It was really shocking for me, and I was really shocked.

07:45 That he passed away and I don't know if this is how you experience it but like Mama is always sick. Yeah, I never thought that

07:59 Like you went in the hospital and you died like because Mom always went in and then she came home and that was just normal. So I never thought you go to the hospital and you could die and never come home, which I think is part of the reason why I hate going to the hospital now because it altered my view of hospitals. Would I fight it and I might because for a long time I'm went and came home and then this huge thing happen and I'm always afraid what if I don't get to come home this time.

08:36 I worry about that too like

08:41 I think I worried that death comes fast and that you won't have time to say goodbye and you won't.

08:51 I really like I remember one of the times I went to visit dad. He asked me to bring him the latest edition of the church Magazine still in the first week and I didn't think much of it cuz I was like so he'll be home soon like and I didn't take it too. Like I didn't I didn't go get it from the house. I didn't bring it back and then he then he died and like I still think about him like the last thing he ever asked me to do and I didn't do it and I think about that like how rapidly somebody can pass inside always try to make sure that whenever I talk to you or Jo-Ann or Ethan or supposed on the phone.

09:43 They always say I love you, like even if we get in a fight and you're mad at each other, I always try to make sure that that to say that I love you cuz I don't want that to happen everyday like that the last

09:58 Thing that I do or the last words they say her unkind or that you don't know that I love you.

10:09 Can we get into this?

10:14 Do you not remember anything after that? I remember being a member being at the hospital and and Grandma coming dad's mom, Katherine and I remember all of Dad's brothers and sisters coming and you know that like that has like nine brothers and they all look exactly like Dad like Grandma just made carbon copies of all of her boys. They all look exactly someone has cowboy boots what has like a plaid shirt and no one's hair is a little bit more gray, but they all look exactly the same him.

10:53 And that last week in the hospital. It was just so weird to have Dad in the bed and like I remember when he went into the hospital. He was like normal dad's. I always like Rock Solid like a bulldog or something me just got skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and like then we'd go into the waiting room and there'd be like all of his brothers and they were all like had the same body like the same voice and it was it was so weird to see them there.

11:32 And I remember like Grandma Katherine like Uncle John and Aunt Gwen like having some kind of a fire or something. Grandma was like if you don't stop you're going to get the belt or something like that. I like Uncle John would like 60 years and we started to laugh and grandmas like you're not too big for the Bell tea that has like four feet tall was a really sad time. It was nice to have all of our family there and and see them and be with

12:17 I think this bittersweet Part of

12:23 Funerals and death guess yeah, I remember Martel who was not maybe 2/3 of the most he had like went over and was getting into Grandma Catherine's person to like hit him with her cane and then Kelly got mad and grandmas like what like it's my great-grandchild if he's going to be naughty. I'm going to spank him with mine came cuz she couldn't really like good afternoon, and I thought that was kind of fun.

13:05 When you think of your life now?

13:11 How

13:13 How is having just one parent her losing a parent? Really young changed?

13:20 How did you see that affect your life?

13:30 It definitely.

13:33 Mike be married and trying to start a family I

13:40 I most value been a little more because I can imagine and

13:50 You know 15-20 years having to bury him and that terrifies me like even when he he's been he's kind of careless about how he goes about life sometimes and I think having only one parent and witnessing dad died. I'm afraid that I will have to do the same. I will have to you know, raise our kids by myself. I don't have to be both mom and dad and not because of divorce which I divorce isn't easy, but I think it's easier than death because at least of or should I go? Well, we didn't work and least you can go see your dad and I don't want our kids never have to

14:41 Go through the upset that I remember having when I graduated from high school and college and that.

14:55 Sadness that kind of

14:58 Felt when we got married cuz I said while my dad's not physically Sheeran.

15:04 And it makes me sad because sometimes Ben will say I wish I would have got to meet your dad and I think we would have gotten along and

15:15 And things like that and I wish that he would have been you know, I think they would have loved to go fishing together and camping and not boy stuff that just do that. We hated cuz it made a sturdy and whatnot, but

15:32 Having one parent. I mean I almost

15:36 Because dad died. I kind of feel like I distanced myself from Mom because I didn't want to ever have to feel that pain ever again of losing a parent. And so when Mom get sick, even though as a kid, I always knew she'd come home as an adult.

16:01 Have almost to the point come to terms the fact that

16:07 My phone's going to die. I mean shoot I tomorrow and she could we should probably won't go out with us all but I just feel like I have almost live my life like mom's already passed away because I don't use that way when it does happen. It won't be like heartbreaking and shocking arms like while I've already

16:30 I'm done with this. I've already grieved that lost years ago. So I should put him down and go a lot about her business and I am sure as a therapist you would think that's so wrong. Like you should not live your life that way but I don't know how not to because I can't

16:54 I don't know how to.

16:59 Stay attached to Mom and then at some time quickly or slowly or whatever lose her and I won't I don't know if I as an adult will know how to function because I just don't know sometimes I feel like I feel bad for my mom cuz I think she got the super short. And so I think we all kind of immortalized him and like meet him this perfect parent that you never did anything wrong and he was always there for us and you know,

17:38 We'll hold him in this high regard and Mom gets kind of like you make me so crazy business or why are you doing these things and you will wait kind of kid after her.

18:00 I think she handles it. So well like she

18:07 Cuz always so patient with all of us in.

18:12 Just a consistent love.

18:15 Even though she makes us all crazy.

18:19 But I agree like I might even before dad died like Mom was in and out of the hospital all the time. So I had already kind of prepared in my head that like, my mom wouldn't be around. Like I had already prepared myself emotionally for her to pass away. And then when it was Dad, it was like come complete shock, honey.

18:48 I think every what's really difficult about it. I don't know if you'll created that every beautiful and good moment in your life is 10 grief and loss like every good thing that happens to you. There is a sadness about it like a black cloud almost not even black but definitely gray in your psyche. So it doesn't really like this or I would really like him to be here or given today. Mom sent me a text for my birthday.

19:25 She's like your dad's really proud of you with all my heart.

19:32 End

19:35 It's not very often, but I'm talk to me about Dad and the Tuesday at those big Milestones. Not that turning 29 is a big Milestone 229 from here on out, but she's like usually at like graduations and things like that.

19:57 I got married just like you and your dad so proud of you and

20:01 That's hard to know that Mom has to like be that spokesperson cuz I wouldn't want to have to

20:14 I would want my kids to just know, you know, your dad's really proud of you and he can tell you himself and to Haggard shoulder that burden of.

20:24 The ultimate single parent where you not only have to compensate for your spouse who's not there, but deal with your kids grieving and you grieving and trying to move on and supplement for someone who can't be there in those big moments and let them know that you know,

20:47 We do still love you and you're there their they're for you, even if they're not there physically.

20:56 I think it's been it's been interesting.

21:02 To see how all of us grieve so differently like the five of us night and day. I like Ethan and Sepulveda are like so angry specially Sepulveda is so angry still you can't even talk to him about it without him. He'll clean up settings.

21:26 And Ethan gets he gets so sad like he gets and I feel so bad for him because he was so young and he didn't get hardly any time with Dad at all, and I wonder

21:41 Either with you like

21:45 Play growing up mix of colon and I got lots of time with death like Mom worked a lot and dad was a school teacher. So he was the one that caught us up in the morning and got stressed and took us to school when he would pick us up from school or we would have just walk down the street from Houghton to the high school and like all summer. We would be going to like wrestling practice football practice and

22:16 Yeah, we were just always with Dad and that was

22:21 That's how we grew up and eating about Ethan and how differently he grew up because Dad wasn't there and I think that really affect him like he

22:31 He gets really sad about it like he feels cheated.

22:36 It does feel cheated cuz you were pretty as well. I mean I don't I feel cheated in the sense that

22:49 Like I wish I had those experiences but I appreciate the fact that you weren't supposed did have those experiences and your I mean, you've always been willing to be like no, I didn't know I wasn't there. I feel like I was there and I can still

23:10 No, dad through your experiences with him and I feel more.

23:16 Cheated in my I don't know. I don't want to stay at 14 years in adults. I like and I adult experiences like as a kitty or your dad there to push you on the swing and you know, whatever and this and that and I have memory few memories of doing things like that with Dad and play in the backyard and you know him playing hide and go seek in the house. We're hiding on the beds and him just like stopping through like a diet and things like that and I have never played Kung Fu theater. Yeah. And so I remember like those little things and I Hold On To those and I but I mostly feel cheated in those big moments. Like he's not going to be here for this and he's not going to be here for that and I especially with you tonight.

24:05 Because we are only two years apart. I understand his feeling of being cheated but I can't wrap my head around why she can't just move on like okay. Yes, you were cheated, but you weren't only child. Like we all got jipped in this situation. And you know, I know it ever really talked about it either but I mean pack Spencer got even less time than the rest of us and I mean and not text her is functional like any of the males in our family, but I don't like you you can't lie to me. I always say I can't

24:52 Be well with me well with me because I have two younger siblings who got last time than I did of last memories and less of this. So who am I to say? Well, I got the short end of the stick when I didn't like we ate all I think equally in our own way. The short end of the stick and it's a sucky stick, but we got it and we had we had needed to learn how to

25:23 Deal with the stick that we got and some of us don't better with it. Some of us decided to pretend like it doesn't exist. And then some of us just made it a crazy stick and hit ourselves over the head with it until we were completely nuts.

25:41 I think it's how it's

25:47 When people ask me about how dad died and what happened? I had a couple of friends who have lost parents and I always tell him especially the girls I think so you just got initiated into the worst Club you've ever been in two of the daughters without Daddy's club and it's the terrible Club to be in.

26:09 It's a strange it almost makes you automatically have daddy issues on I think it's

26:22 The world feels like a different place without a daddy and you know, like the world's not a state football place without a daddy like when I care friends of mine like they're mad at their dad or their dad to do something they wanted them to do I get makes me really mad like and I'm like, well, you should love your dad and even if he didn't change your oil so we can do you wanted him to like did it or you have them to come over and mow your lawn or do all those things like being a little older and single like I see you my friend also own homes or whatever and their dads come over to to do all of those Fixer-Upper things and I don't have that and

27:07 That's really hard. But I also think of it and I always tell them like you just survived the worst thing that could happen to you, which I'm sure it's not the worst thing that could happen to you. Thanks for losing a spouse or a child is

27:22 It's not fair cuz really bad as well, but I've always felt and not that it's a good thing but I've always felt like, you know World bring it like what can you possibly do to me? That was that's worse than what's already happened. And so I think it's made me more courageous and like so that you are like, how could you just move to New York by yourself or how could you just you know do this on your own? Like, how did you just move to Utah by yourself all on your own? Like what's the worst thing that could happen. Already happened? So

28:03 No, I think it's

28:06 That's been a positive and I think the other thing that I feel like it's been a positive is like even just like with our faith that I feel like God is with us and there's been times when I felt really lonely or really scared or

28:30 Overwhelmed

28:33 And I can feel that he's with me which if he were alive. Maybe I wouldn't have that, like he's a constant companion in my life either a Consul witness of what's going on with me like he can watch me wherever I am and he can be there were with me wherever I am and so. That helps me and I try to you know till they are on and then he's in that.

29:04 So that maybe it will give them some strength when they're having a hard time, but I wish we got together more and talk more because I think we all have our own stories app with Dad and it said that if we

29:20 Could talk about it without getting angry or falling apart or not. I think it would be and I keep waiting for her that year to come where I'm like, okay now we can get together and talk. So I'm glad we're doing this today cuz I thought maybe this whole

29:44 Start something good, maybe the other two cuz I don't know this photo ever.

29:52 Be able to handle it. But at least they'll they can maybe listen and say how I feel that way or I don't feel that way or I don't remember it that way or

30:03 What not?

30:06 But I do agree with you and it definitely has strengthened.

30:13 My testimony to

30:16 The ends of the Earth and back and dust

30:20 Knowing that it's not just here now and that there is something after Words which just having lost at such an early age and it's such a time where most kids don't they still piggyback off their parents testimony. I had to find my own or I would have kind of ended up like they all in Ethan's portal just angry and upset and lost because I didn't know where to go from here and I mean

30:59 Just explicitly remember being in high school and I remember coming home and I'm so sick like an ice went straight to bed. And I thought I could have died. Like I just feel like crap and I just remember praying saying I wish my dad was here to give me a blessing because that I would feel better and I remember specifically silly my cancel my head and within minutes. I felt I wasn't like a hundred percent go outside and play but I remember feeling better like, okay, it's you're going to it's going to hurt for a while, but you will get better and I remember

31:41 . That's why I said you're going to be fine. I know you don't feel good. Now just rest and in the morning, you'll be good to go. And I and I remember there's other times. I've been sick for the hospital. I felt just like no one else existed even if someone else was there and I just

32:05 Would be like I just would rather die than have to continue being sick or whatever and I remember

32:15 I just feeling like and there's a completely different feeling from my dad feel. He's in like the Holy Ghost feelings and I just remember I feel like Mike Dallas like it's okay. You're not here by yourself. And don't you dare say you would rather die because you cannot leave your family. Like I already left them already caused enough pain if you left it would just be a disaster.

32:46 I'm thinking okay. Well, I guess I have to stay like I don't get a choice. Dad said I have to hang in there.

32:55 It's just against that's not just like I don't want to go to release it or don't you know what to do, whatever. I know that no one could ever take my knowledge of what I know about the gospel in the Life After Life before and turn on kitchen ceilings and families and things like that. You can never take that away from me because since I was 13 at all, I've had to hold on to that was my connection to Dad. Like I can't like you can't if you take that away, thank you. Take away my dad forever and I don't get to see her. I don't get to think of them. You know that they're hanging out with my spiritual Kids Dental.

33:49 It just

33:51 I have to hold on to that. All right, why will I see on this sleep and up bitter and sad and angry that I did lose dad out of early age and

34:06 I don't want to be bitter and angry and sad I want to be able to move on and do things that I think would make him proud and

34:18 I think you would be very proud of you like Dad was like that like he didn't.

34:27 He didn't hold onto anger is like if we did something we weren't supposed to do or if somebody said something rude or whatever like he would just brush it off and keep going. Like I never I've never heard either Dad or Mom say anything bad about other people like they never speak ill of other people remember?

34:55 Going away to college and somebody had said some kind of like racially derogatory thinking about some other person and I didn't have any idea.

35:07 What it meant I was like, what is that even mean? I'm there like, oh, it's a derogatory term for Jewish people.

35:17 And I and I was like 21 years old and I had never heard anything like that. I was completely shocked and they were telling like they called these kind of people visit these kind of people that

35:32 I like how could you get to this age? And you know of these things out of my parents never said anything like that. Everybody was the same like we had people in and out of our house all of the time like I don't remember any time in my childhood ever wear. It was just our family living in our house. Like we always had some stray kid living at our house or something, but he's relative who was moving to California or something. Like we always had somebody at our house and mom and dad never differentiated there, you know real kids to the other kids like Trisha and Eddie were their kids and whoever else I've never known that man ever else was at at that if you were at the house, that was your home and we were your parents and we were your siblings and get along.

36:34 I think that that's one thing with all the things that didn't go right. I think both of our parents did an amazing job of three five individual kids. Like mom always says, I have 5 only generous and raising us all to be open-minded and to be loving to each other or even 50 meet each other crazy and kind of hate each others guts. Sometimes we still love each other and and know that we would do anything for each other and that's because of their example, like I never saw a mom or dad turned anybody away if there was somebody asking for money they always gave them money, you know.

37:24 And we didn't we weren't any thing near rich or anything like that, but we would always open are home to people if they needed there's always food available for anybody. Who was who wanted it. I think that's been like I see that in you like I see whenever people ask me about you. I want cuz she's the nicest person you'll ever meet.

37:51 She's just sweet and kind and when she was even when you were a baby like Grandma clary's call you cupcake cuz you're so sweet. No cupcakes, come over here and do this or whatever and I think that's dad. That's that's dad in you like that tender tender heart and that kind kind manner in which you treat others. Try some days. I'm sure Ben has the meanest person in the world. But do you have anything you want to ask me?

38:33 Mount Everest

38:35 How do you think you're going to the New Life Changes heading your way? How do you think dad's death is going to affect that it's hard. Like I think not like in a conscious ways that I think I've been putting it off for quite a while, but I think kind of in my subconscious that

39:03 This is a big step and I don't want to do it without him. And so I've put it off for a long time and I got to give you a kick in the pants. I think I'm feeling stronger and stronger like his presence in my life saying on it already. Like I've always kind of done things in my own time and dad was always patient with me cuz I had my own way of doing things but then when it came down to it, he's like

39:39 Come on now get it to drag your feet long enough, but I feel that in my life. Now. I feel him saying.

39:47 Come on.

39:49 Get it done already. Stop dragging your feet.

39:53 Be there for you while we're here. Well, I'm here for you. No matter what and I hopefully can be that Dad sounding less manly though voice of just quit dragging your feet and get it done. And cuz I know I mean I can tell that you have had that apprehension about it and and I thought to myself.

40:25 If she feels anything like I did before I got married, I understand not wanting to make that jump because Dad isn't here but at the same time knowing that got to be heartbroken if we are like, nope. I've never going to get married because my dad can't be there. That's not

40:46 The purpose of you know

40:50 It's being here and he wouldn't be I wouldn't say angry, but definitely disappointed if we halted Our Lives because he wasn't here and he's like I kind of feel like he'd be shouting like I am there I want you to do this. I want you to be happy and do these things which is why I feel like we almost owe it to him to just keep going and remember the good things and I'd how and I mean I know de on named James after Dad and you know,

41:28 Someday who ever have kids, you know, I won't have a James because that's just weird to me. But you know, if we have decided he'll definitely have the middle name James so that that Legacy continues on and then there always be someone who will ask my child. Why is your middle name James and he can say because I don't think I have his name and he died right before you know.

41:54 I was bored and these are the things my mom told me about my grandpa and things like that just have a bad gone. I've been able to through teaching when I care to lose parents or grandparents or things like that I can.

42:11 Give him an extra sense of comfort and we have that other connection where you can talk about how they're feeling and things like that. And and I know like when I when my kids ask about, you know, tell me about your family and things like that when I tell them, you know, I'd lost my toddler is really little bit. They said, you know their parents to come back at a later time and said when you told so until that you lost your dad and they were really upset about it because they couldn't see how you could continue on without a dad. But to them it means you more of a human person. Just this my teacher and cheese this Untouchable thing as usual and ask. There's usually Tears like there are now and

43:05 It just makes me more human to them and it opens up the Avenue.

43:12 Guy can reach them on a completely different level and be able to they don't feel scared. Like if I purchase she's going to love me and just come give me a hug and just going to make it feel better five-star understand. I'm happy. She's going to be happy for me and things like that and I don't and I as much as it sucks. I'd rather not have that.

43:35 So that I can connect with my kids, but I'm glad that I do so that I can empathize especially like this year when I had a student lose their dad.

43:47 I could you know, she should just give me a hug and I knew exactly how he's feeling it even though he's the happiest schedule ever mean you're scared of high and I can't wait to come back to school. That's exactly how I was like I was like, I'm tired of this crying business. Let's go back to school and go back to normal life and

44:09 It makes it all.

44:13 Crazy losing but being able to move on and continue life. Like I think Dad would want us to

44:23 I'm totally having a Kardashian movement right now.

44:27 I'm super grateful that you were able to come down here today and that we were able to talk about it. I want you to know how much I love you and how much I appreciate you and how much you remind me of dad and that's all good stuff.

44:48 Glad you called and I was able to come because normally I would be in class but I was like that when you told me I wasn't really sure what my but okay weird, and I didn't think too much about it. I may drive up here. And then I think I know man want to sit in this room and cry but it's been good. And definitely I think brought us closer than they already are and definitely an experience. I can put in the books of things that I've done and accomplished and share with you and

45:28 I love that you include me in these random Adventures of yours. No matter how crazy they seem at the moment and that you're my sister and no matter what you do or what decisions I make you always

45:46 Westampton

45:48 Back me up and when I need so I can face like are you serious? You are still you may give me a slap in the face, but you're still there with me. No matter what. I feel like I even though I didn't have dad and mom has halfway there most of the time I knew that no matter what I always had you and you could be my mom and my dad and I know that's a lot of pressure on you.

46:19 But you've always just done it because that's who you are. No matter how stressed you are and

46:29 How inconvenient it may be for you or your life here just like okay. This is what you need to make sure you have it and

46:39 Going to get mad at me. Like you always call your sister first and then you call me and I'm like, well I can depend on her do it. That mean moms to Dependable mostly.

46:53 Sometimes that's match and I always felt like

46:58 I can continue on in life without my parents, but I couldn't.

47:05 Continue on without you like I

47:08 Literally would just be lost to life and you were on your way home baby. We're going to move. Dre and I keep thinking it Over My Dead Body cuz I can't I can't.

47:23 It would literally be like you dying to me for you to leave the country to even leave the state for more than

47:35 A little bit of time even when you were like, I'm in the mood to temperature this morning like yeah, right you're moving. I'm abandoned.

47:43 I just I don't I mean I think we still would have been closed even if Dad hadn't died. But I think it's definitely

47:53 Brought us closer than we ever would be because I mean how normal is it for sisters that are 7 years apart to be like best friends and hang out.

48:07 Ben's so jealous if I can get over yourself, I will divorce you before I get rid of her. So knock it off.

48:20 I think we have to wrap it up very much. Love you, too. Thanks for making me cry.