Mary Wessel and Katherine Gulotta

KG explains that her father worked for the FBI and moved to New Jersey because her father was transferred to Manhattan to work on the Russian spy unit.

MW explains that she graduated from Purdue and wanted to leave after being in Indianapolis for so long.

KG talks about her career as a teacher.

KG explains that her daughter had an unplanned pregnancy right before COVID, and she was able to move to Georgia to help take care of her grandson who is biracial. She undertook an independent study and later was asked to share that knowledge at an adult education center.

KG says that she wanted to share about her experience with One Small Step with her students. KG talks about hope and her study of miracles.

MW talks about her relationship to her faith and practice of Catholicism. The pair talk about their faith journeys.

MW shares more about why she wanted to do One Small Step, talking about her social work program and wanting to practice empathy with the people with whom she works.

MW talks more about her experience on the Supreme Court steps on the day of March for Life. She shares that the protest was one of the biggest ever, even though it isn’t publicized. MW also talks about her experience in El Salvador.

KG and MW talk about the things about which they are proudest.

MW and KG say they love each other.