Patricia Kloiber and Kathleen Kloiber Koch
Description
Patricia Kloiber is interviewed by her daughter, Kathleen Kloiber Koch about her life.Subject Log / Time Code
Participants
- Patricia Kloiber
- Kathleen Kloiber Koch
Venue / Recording Kit
Tier
Keywords
- anecdotes (humorous but true stories)
- Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
- college
- community worthies
- craft, skills, and procedures
- family characters
- family expressions
- family members in history
- family naming and nicknames
- Family Traditions
- family trips and excursions
- Girl Scouts of America
- historical events/people
- Influential People
- Ireland
- Jupiter High School
- Lawrence Welk
- memories of former times
- memories of growing up
- Milwaukee, WI
- Okey Records
- Orange Bowl Parade
- Palm Beach Country Clerk
- Perry Como
- personal experiences
- Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition
- RCA Victor
- religious beliefs and practices
- Salesmen
- school day memories
- Spouse
- St. Patrick’s Day
- The Hit Parade
- War Bonds
- women’s institutes
Subjects
- Birth
- Changes In Education
- Children
- Christmas
- Community History
- Community Organizations
- Earliest Memories
- Engagements
- Extended Family
- First Job
- First Meetings
- Gardening
- Genealogy
- Grandparents
- Histories
- Legacy
- Marriage
- Neighborhood Life
- Parents
- Schools
- Siblings
- Students
- Teachers
- Town Life
- Weddings
- Workday Life
Transcript
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00:03 This is Kathleen Cleaver cook. I'm 50 years old almost 50 and 1/2. Today is November 2nd 2008 and we are at the storycorps booth in Gainesville, Florida and I am the daughter in the in the oldest child of Patricia Flynn. Kloiber whom I'm interviewing today.
00:23 And my name is as she said Patricia Flynn. Kleiber the other part of that. Writing was Glenn flyboard air and the age is probably the one I gave four years. I pretended 21 until they all caught up to me. And even the grandchildren are beyond that age now and of course, I'm the mother of this lovely lady go. Thank you. Oh mama. I want to first of all say thank you for agreeing to do this. And for the preparation you've done I I know chronicling 21 + years and thinking about the things you want to talk about took some time and effort. So I just want to start by saying thanks for doing this and I've enjoyed the drive up here today with you.
01:07 I too want to take this opportunity to thank the story car for letting me reminisce about some of my life highlights and thank you to you Kathleen for making the arrangements so that I can direct this conversation to all of our children to R6 very special children and law and you are outstanding and above-average grandchildren now between the ages of 3 and 25 and it's amazing sixteen grandchildren wonderful things all wonderful. I know as we were trying to figure out how to convince your life into 40 minutes you talked about some messages that were important to you to relay to you your family and then we also have so many neat stories to try to share today. So I thought I'd start today with your first message and I'll show the message and you could share what's behind it and that first message and it's a very powerful one is live for eternity.
02:06 Now I know that's very much a part of your day-to-day life is so much that you even wear it. Tell us about that. Well, we followed the example of Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd and we had our wedding rings inscribed love is eternal and then the story goes on and I have the same thing inscribed in our wedding band. So it's it's something it's important to us as well. But don't tell me some more about but your life. Well, I firmly believe that we should live are comparatively short lives on Earth so will be in heaven for eternity and there we can continue to love and pray for all family members.
02:51 Another Point here is the same as that those of you who grew up in our household remember and more importantly still follow the slogan do your best the angels can do no better that's what the display above the Blackboard read way back and my first day of freshman year and I tell you all keep it up. So if we're doing our best then we get to join the Angels In The End by the fence and you next Generations have put forth great effort and interest in your studies extracurricular activities of many varieties are friendships your professions your religion. And of course your family's you excellently demonstrate Living For Eternity, you know, I heard that word family and I I I think that's probably inscribed if it's not in your wedding band probably inscribed many times in your heart.
03:51 And I know your second message is that you would hope all families and I know particularly our families would love and nurture their families as we've done is we've seen you and Dad do over the years. Yes, loving and nurturing families is so important because the family is the base of society and we all enjoyed visiting your home is and reading your emails. Just seeing how well you do take care and love your children and tell me tell me about your childhood a little bit and then the love in the nurturing and and the relationships you've had. I know yours is a little unusual so so is there
04:28 Well the loving and nurturing Works little bit different than a double Generations ago because many people in our generation did not hear the word love off, but we recognize that our parents showed that I love by providing for us and guiding us and I remember my dad who was a traveling man would sometimes take time out and write me letters from his weekly leaving of our family home and I was born in Milwaukee during the 1930s depression a really cold day every coldest day of the year and my father was out and Away on a business and had to get back. Anyway, the parents are Joe and Sylvia spring of Flynn.
05:17 When I was about for you, I was 4 years old both my mother and sister died mother was 33 and a sister Kathleen Carroll was not quite 3 years old. Okay. So what where did you end up then after that my mother sister at Leona and her husband body took care of me, even though both sets of grandparents wanted the honor but a priest friend said that he recommended it be not a double generation apart, but rather someone closer, so I was raised with my two cousins Grace and Mary Joan just for about 3 years now. I was a teacher at your school at the took a shine to your father.
05:57 When there was a teachers meeting shortly after my mother's and sister's sister is pictures appeared in the paper with the story of their death Minot. We've talked to one of her friends and sitting out there be a catch for somebody never realizing that ultimately she was the one who caught my father but Dad said do we do we want to marry my not so he was asking you to asking me and I said sure sounds like a good idea and so I was actually an active participant engagement because he already had the ring it on glove box. I saw it, but I was felt good that I could be a part of inviting her to our family. I like that.
06:45 And they married three years later and after their honeymoon, we all live together in a rented lower flat at 50th and Wisconsin Avenue in Milwaukee when they told me that they hired a maid and I was only seven and might have taught school. How many miles away
07:01 That word sounded so pompous. So I introduced her to my friends as the girl who helps around the house my best friend Marlene Dietrich who lived across the street was busy Wisconsin Avenue Boulevard, really enjoyed coming to our house for dinner because we didn't have to do the dishes the girl who helps around the house did them so that way I know you were in grade school during World War II and I know that the country was really galvanized. What was what did you see around yourself then? Well, I was at that given that young age very impressed by how the country unified so that everybody was doing something to try and help and many women including this hired help leg went to took more profitable jobs in manufacturing War Goods. So there were no more maids in our home and mine are no longer taught school.
08:00 But talking about the things we did we spell children every week would purchase special savings stamps and when it reached the amount of $18.75 worth put into a little booklet, then it was taken to the bank and we have changed our war bonds and their work because they matured had $25 and ten years with the time frame then and there were lots and lots of war bond Rally's Bob Hope and other notables were out there trying to urge the whole public to but we learn patriotic selections on the roof piano. When I remember especially I love to his praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. I also I'm not going to ask mom had a good message and it was a chaplain talking and the other one that I learned on. The piano was the Army Air corps because those days it was not there for
09:00 It was for like 3 car. So you won that you learned that the piece of music off we go into the wild blue yonder exactly. What you had also told me that you were between a bit of a gardener unintentionally, but it was fun. We had a nearby empty Fields tilled up or whatever Dragon they used to make it productive. But there's so many vegetables can't permit that we couldn't eat all of them. But mother asked her friend Isabel Bud Snyder of Oconomowoc, Wisconsin for her corn relish recipe and it was really good and we had jars and jars of it in our basement cabinets, but later bud gave that same recipe to a relative who produced it on a wholesale level for the aunt Nelly brand label. I buy it whenever I can find it right now. I know when we were growing up, you said something about your your baking classes got a little delayed because of the rationing because the sugar
10:00 Was one of the many items that was rationed Mother when I asked about the age 10 to be able to learn how to bake a cake. She denied the request because she thought I might make a mistake and waste all this sugar ration for the time and they didn't have boxed cake mixes and those days that came later gasoline with another thing. It was scarce and was sold according to one's card displayed on the windshield gas station employees could only pump the allotted amount but there were no self service stations then.
10:33 Mother only rated a card so she can obtain the least amount and her car was funny placed up on blocks in the garage also saving Tire where I guess but now my dad had a c card I was the one that was rationed because he worked for the war production board is just a government agency.
10:55 His job was to expedite materials for the highly secretive Manhattan Project later. Those materials were revealed to be the components for the atomic bomb many people believe that using the atomic bomb ended World War. So the traveling salesman was actually sort of an undercover production specialist for helping helping to propose materials together to end the war exactly that is on his second choice if you try to enlist in the Navy, but he was too young for the first world war and Two Worlds II. So he went to this settings able to help us way to school. I remember you talking about Holy Angels and will take us back to school a little bit my first logo there. I attended 16 years of Catholic schools, including four different grade schools. And then an all-girl High School Holy Angels Academy where my dad also graduated
11:52 I was appointed the newspaper editor and I'll pause here so you can tell me how history repeats itself. Well when I was in high school at Jupiter, I was the editor of our Arlo publication the war-cry and now my daughter your granddaughter Jillian is working in journalism for the Tampa Tampa prep Terrapin times. I think it's called so it did There's Something genetic about this journalism. They were a little different though. I was called the Ariel the radio and television major and we understood that we were the very first Milwaukee class for TV writing and production.
12:36 I'm happy to report that I was awarded to go mic microphone pin for achievement. And another honor was having been appointed associate editor of the Marquette University's yearbook. That's the hilltopper. Yes, ma'am used in my cat used to be on a Hilltop. And anyway, I had enjoyed it so much and Northwestern was known for his journalism classes. So after my junior year, I went there for summer school and got two other classes. I took two other classes in writing and the same time each weekend friends from Milwaukee or parts of Wisconsin with drive down and visit. I really didn't feel I was going too far away to school and others friends invited me to come along to Colorado with them as soon as the class is added.
13:30 I still had some papers do so. I took along my trusty Underwood portable but not electric typewriter on vacation. I got to go to grade. But I also try to get a good suntan. There are five of us in the station wagon. So at times I would sit on the typewriter case with my arm on the windowsill looking for a tan how times have changed you know, I've also talked about how technology has changed and then not just up with the typewriters are my children call them be typewriting machines, but we've also talked about cameras and anyone who listens to this in the family knows that very much a part of our family gatherings consists of taking family pictures. Probably much do our husbands to grin or but I I know you took pictures. Did you take the pictures during your time at Marquette, right? We did take a glass in in photography of what we had to do is I was very heavy boxes.
14:27 Call speed graphic cameras. There's nothing like the tiny little digits rules of today. Our instructor later became the photo editor of the National Geographic magazine, which we were really pleased about the LMA is because I wish I'd paid better attention. I could have maybe take better pictures now and they're just Wildlife tell me about work. I know you left left graduated college and what enter the workforce right? I started out by writing promotional material for RCA Victor records where I'd send I wouldn't but the company was sent out the material to the radio disc jockeys and to record dealers now at the time Perry Como was one of RCA's top recording artists and it's real as strikes me as funny that a mere 16 years later. We live in the same Florida East Coast Community as he and attended the same church as he and aside from that we did meet many other.
15:27 Musicians musical personalities when that job going to A Little Piece of Heaven called Jupiter program you use just ended by saying is going back to a little bit. I think of paradise he he was very happy there and wait for 27 years until we moved over to the West Coast of Florida here telling us you were much younger than the college graduate when you started becoming a radio a radio listener and started shooting in the top 10 exactly. The Hit Parade was radio show that would list of 10 top tunes by popularity by record purchasers are by whatever method they had surveyed them those days and they put it on a Saturday night. So I was about 10 years old when my dad was also a salesperson for okeh records and so he asked me if I would listen to that show and I did for months and months.
16:27 Lunch and enjoy it and he could use the information I gave him then by going to the work the next Monday and picking out those records to bring to his to strip dealers are doing well. I know you also went to work for a brewing company before I also worked for Miller Brewing Company, which is another HSA Milwaukee industry co-editing the employees magazine called The Flash the quality control Department often asked us to taste various bruise.
17:05 For their quality control, but I'm not certain how helpful my info. It was since I really don't like beer very much. I still don't have my heart or your heart to it. And that's dad. That's just like about meeting at that Glenn Clover guy. Well it all started in August of 1955 when I met a tall handsome kind and thoughtful gentleman at a picnic of Catholic college graduates held in Pewaukee Lake outside of Milwaukee. I had been a bridesmaid in a friend's wedding your Godmother's wedding the day before and I was not as active as usual so is sitting on a blanket and I had my tennis racket with his cover on it with my Aurora my name written to be at walked up and said hi Pat and I thought I had met him among the others billions of people I met that day, but it was fun to talk to him. I was immediately attracted to him truly and when I got home
18:05 At night, I went straight to the telephone book to see if I can figure out how that funny name was spelled. I didn't I found out that k l o i b e r was in the phone book and it did sound like labor without you recorded for a number of a couple of years, but it wasn't an easy. You weren't nearby exactly he worked both and stubborn suburban Chicago and around the Mississippi by use developing liquid natural gas while I remained in Wisconsin and we had two years of
18:41 Dating only once every two months. So therefore there a lots of letters exchanged during that next two years and I kept them all unfortunately my threw them away when they mowed but she never even asked me. I think I'd love to see some of those if we were leaving. So when did you start having a clue that maybe there was marriage on the horizon. You told your children how you got in yet? Okay us but it's time to surprise me if you enjoy each other's company, but we're at a picnic just for the two of us and he was asked me to pose for pictures and when I asked why specifically he said well, then we'll be able to show our children. We looks like for the week that is very nice. I was thinking and wondering at all, but one day he came to pick me up.
19:41 Maybe winter time after a date and I truly had forgotten my gloves and I my room was the upstairs floor maroon bathroom and etcetera of our story and a half house. So I filled my shopping went up to get my gloves little did I know until later that that he took that opportunity to ask my parents if he could marry me they thought I knew it was all I didn't know. I was really surprised at the further on with those that we went attended Christmas Eve Mass together and a Turk Rice King Church was really crowded so that others are pushing people into the pews and I got jabbed in the rib know in the hip by a box in his pocket and I heard that lady that box has something to do with my future and it did so you were engaged on Christmas Eve 1956.
20:41 Leading into the year of our getting married, which I had hoped would be May 15th because my parents my first original parents were married on that day and it was a Saturday in 57. However, my future mother-in-law said she preferred that I would make it later because an April her only daughter was getting married and in June her youngest son was getting married and that would have put three weddings and around three months in a row. So I did give her her desire and wished I hadn't done till now days. It's fun to get the family together during Children's School vacations to celebrate anniversaries Wedding Date wasn't too appealing at the beginning but now it's a chance to have a family and incidentally those three people glad his sister and brother.
21:34 We're all married within those five months of that year and nobody else knew his other brother. Never did get married now and I probably should adhere the date was August 1957 August 10th, 1957. And just last year, we celebrated your golden anniversary when everybody all together and to be able to reminisce at that point to I think we asked all the gentlemen how they ask their wives to marry them at that point, which is it. Anyway, it was a grand grand time that you all helped arrange for more than a year. You and your sisters that has the husband say we're working on this forever. I bet it turned out beautifully and I thought all this was in your memory, but one of the most powerful things I thought was the fact that the whole mass that we had but celebrating your honour was participated invite readers and the
22:34 Sisters are bringing up the gifts and the altar servers and the music it was all family exactly as I say, it is very happy and proud to say that goes well at the kids are driving but we did let God decide the size of our family and we're blessed with six amazing children in the next 10 years one child has you know Kathleen was born in Wisconsin to Dan and Beth were born in Missouri while three Megan Lori and Tom were born in California. Then you do the same, California to Florida.
23:21 And I never even visited Florida before moving to Palm Beach County on New Year's Eve 1970, but their husbands and was a mechanical engineer working on the United States Aerospace program as he had with Rocketdyne in both the other two stage and Hughes aircraft. And then finally Pratt & Whitney in West Palm Beach that was 1970. You weren't exactly retirees. Not quite so and that was when the night before you flew. We landed in Miami cuz it was less confusion to have to bring all six of you one dog and 21 pieces of luggage across from California to Florida by myself. We flew over into Miami where we would be unless transfer and the Orange Bowl Parade what's going on beneath us and the Pilot Point of that out and within how many years do we got to be in high school? You were in the Orange Bowl?
24:21 Perforated just a minute about that. That was fun. That was back when Jupiter was had a homecoming and decided to do Disney characters with the help of Disney and we came up with 57 different characters are asked to a number of parades in the final the grand finale was to be in the King orange parade on the New Year's Eve. So I was Pluto. I'm dancing under the lights and watching the planes go over about five years later, I guess and urey's we're receiving Pluto themed gifts for how many decades after that but gifts. You know what I know you've talked in terms of gifts. You can give to your children and and how you want to encourage your children start to give us a moment on that.
25:07 Okay, I encourage everyone to continue loving caring for and praying for all family members.
25:19 And further, I think I'd like to see you continue to practice of your faith and to continue in your own self development.
25:28 I love the slogan that I even put into a cross-stitch. One-time. The two gifts parents can give to Children one is roots. And the other Wings. Well, you said the roots word mom. So let's go to your your third message. I know for a good section of your life. You've been very passionate about learning genealogy and your your third message to your family is you recommend everyone enjoy and explore history, especially your personal history exactly genealogy has been a passion of mine for decades. I started asking questions of my grandma Flynn and 1952 the year before she died. I also quizzed Glenn's parents Laura and fo kleiber in the early 1970s.
26:19 He was laughing as you told me that Laura's maiden name was Dahmer pronounced de Mer like nightmare that my father would never talk about my birth mother or sister and I was harder afraid ever bring it up the topic so and I wanted to learn more about my roots genealogy was the answer.
26:47 And Beyond discovering the basic Vital Statistics. It is fun to unearth family stories. Now one of them is for instance. My grandpa Flynn's older sister Catherine married in Iowa in 1880 and moved out west to one of the Dakotas. I believe she wrote and reassured her Irish, Ireland born mother living in an hour that their crops were going well and that she and her husband Jack Carlon pray the rosary everyday it was moving to read that ancestors had values like ours 128 years ago and is somehow connected to them as Pioneers. Yes, we because of the fun family was in Iowa prior to 1855.
27:39 And I could show the lineage from there down to us. I have received a certificate of Iowa Pioneer, which all of you are my master of the in-laws but least the director said that I could also claim that they want to go to the procedure and it's fun because we've had a presence in Iowa up to this day. I was some people in our family pack Flynn the masculine Pat and his wife Pattie living there. Now a lot of Travel Incorporated in your own travel, but also done some travel just to figure out our genealogy tell me about where you've gone all trying to get data for three sides of the family. Primarily the original to I have traveled to repositories in 5 States including Utah where the Mormons have vast amounts of information Washington DC's National Archives and to both Ireland and to Germany and you sent your kids off and the children was so cooperative.
28:39 Kathleen H backpack into Austria, the different individual times visiting locations are their fathers paternal ancestry that you Kathleen discovered many many people named Quavers in Walker starfish and a really fine woman who was a baker very generous with her baking to
29:00 So there's a lot of Libras right back there then a parish priest drove our bath to a nearby community of Deutsche many Hof to meet some distant relatives of Glens paternal. Grandmother Maria Deutsch. I didn't Beth also go to Ireland. Yes. She did was out looking for my mice blind side of the family when she was there and she went to kill grass Auntie which we had discovered through a letter. It's amazing what research is is involved in genealogy, but we thought it a letter written.
29:36 Oh when the early 18th 19th century and it mentions to Hometown a killer I sent and I'm so glad it but anyway that the residents were really kind to her there or even going to the store buying an egg and inviting her to eat breakfast with him at the church office was not available that open at the time and that's where all the records for the right way to Bend Cabin following the them chronologically dad and his business partner.
30:04 David marksberry drove through there and took pictures and Eden Housing hessen Germany or glands maternal family had like four years later Megan and I drove around Ireland has stopped at the same community that Beth had previously tried to get to but again, no one answered at the rectory Mary Beth Larson Tom Glenn and I arrive at the same location and a killer I-70 where my dad's grandparents had lived and reviewed my great-grandmother. Mary power Flynn's 1832 baptismal record, and they're in their parents were named Katherine and Thomas and as we were leaving the priest bless Tom and Mary and Mary best upcoming wedding and get your life together.
30:50 Wonderful will see you were successful. Now. I know you've also spend some time through Germany and Austria right a few years ago Mary Ann Burris, and I tour Germany and Austria and I hired a car then a cab driver to take us to my mother's ancestors hometown of I'll bring house owner of Germany north and east of cologne the driver have never heard of a hamlet, but I did find the name on the roadside and he went there. We found a string of home again. Nobody was there. I ultimately did the story of your fire type. I already did correspond with that remote cousins your spring up.
31:29 And I know you have talked to us a little bit about you know, if we we continue Anna and I know you hope we continue with genealogy. Definitely you got some tips. So well these days return to the computer for increasingly more family history, but it must be done with the warning that not all the information is accurate. It is imperative that researchers verify the information found on the internet before they claim it as their own part of the family and history in general in forms and enlightens just as genealogy history is not only comprised of dates and places for events and individual lives. So here's a reminder to our listeners. It will be rewarding when you write your own daily history in your journals or diaries never too young to start keeping your own diary or Journal.
32:20 Will Mom one of the things that you've asked us to talk about today? Your fourth message is and it and I think this if I mentioned this is sort of preaching to the choir but you encouraged us to engage with our communities including our church community and our Civic communities. So I know this is something I could spend your life and I hope you seen it reflected in our lives. What are you saying you and your families are also actively involved in worthwhile. Endeavor is charitable organizations church activities. And so many more ways of contributing to society you make us both very proud. I try to remember them all. I I got church active service participants girl and boy scout leaders private school volunteers and fundraisers, but I'm leaving it all to you to fill in the rest of all the blank. Okay. Well, let's let's we know what we do is talk about what you've done an employee call in a couple of things that you're particularly, you know, proud of okay. I will be happy to initiate the Girl Scout religious.
33:20 Awards program in Palm Beach County for all faiths. It was in Palm Glades Girl Scout Council in the 1970s. We use some of the books that were then being used from the st. Petersburg diocese, which is not where we now live and we adapted n4arz and then the ensuing years Kathleen you have done the reverse who tried to update the programs and we're even I don't know if I told you this where you've been creating a new program for Daisy Girl Scouts and your granddaughter Jillian is actually pulling it together on the Catholic girl scout committee. I was so pleased that the other religions responded. So well, I was so proud to have the first Jewish girl receive her is to
34:07 Then other people think about what I did back in my days, I was invited to become a member of the Jupiter High School first parent advisory committee helping to make decisions for 12 long years while you're wrong on this cooler concerning overcrowding issues of double sessions and finally going into the year-round school program call Concepts six. We also urged Administration to offer gifted classes and programs then back in this community. I had to help co-author booklets commemorating the quarter-century, March for our village of Tequesta and our Saint Jude Church. They were both founded the same year. We got married in 1957 and very timely I work for the supervisor of elections in California weather boots and books were set up on our back patio for several years and in Florida for 25 years as a shall I say you can do this.
35:07 County Precinct work but moving to Florida's West Coast two years before the debated results of 21st century building 2000. Tom said you'd better get back their mom and straighten them up. This is being recorded 2 days before a very close general election. We take note that this is a lot more history to be made. You know, one of the things I should do mama just call up a couple of evocative memories it and you and I have had some fun just kicking back and forth with some some things that came to mind. So I'll let you sort of just call out of some. Okay. That's the way we discussed earlier. How about if I give the highlights and it's up to you 6 to elaborate for your spouse's and younger General so we should tell our children to learn what the what the details are. Okay. I got the big black appointment book for master planning of our carpools meetings your games doctor appointment school plays and on and on and on sometimes I even color coded each of you.
36:06 Send me a color-coded like towels in the bathroom. So I'm not surprised you color coded our schedules to his way to organize sewing you out the door as I put the finishing touches on what you were to wear stretching the food dollar getting big boxes of extra ripe fruit with this is our besnik mother-of-eight to adapt into meals often applesauce. And I always thought the waffle dinners with a best dinners in the Sunday Adventures. I think Dad even follow that with his family afternoon drives into Uncharted California territories for us. Sometimes as far as some of the original Old Mission my dad used to say who wants to go for a ride in the car and we all piled it. Nobody was left behind our dining room table with Lazy Susan Center. Oh, yeah. I bought a school surplus store and play it used at the play table birthday party center in California. And then Glenn and I are adapted it to make it for a ready the used as our main dining room table and the night-time book reading.
37:06 As family grew I used to sit on the hallway floor and near Adolphe intersection of the three bedrooms and red very loudly things like a Little House on the Prairie. When will you know, he's been there but you can tell your weekly show especially enjoying Joe feeny's great voice since to his children work class Mesa bars and Lawrence's daughter Shirley was a Market University with me new stone age. Music there is such a big part of our Lives Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I I took the brownie troops when Beth was that age down to the Grauman's Chinese to see the show came back and went out to buy the LP for it. We play that over and over again probably end and you're singing in the car and up with people as use three oldest one.
38:06 The last wedding a few months two weeks ago and in the holidays, I love celebrating holidays and many we made decorations inside we had music going on and maybe I can make that my fifth message wear your green on Saint Patrick's day everybody.
38:25 I still remember you painting dance of fingernail is green. When will you know, I was reflecting on all the wishes you've had for us and the prayers you've had for us over the years. I thought about the prayers that I said when I was pregnant with Aaron and pregnant with Jillian and the three things I pray for shouldn't really surprise you with it. They'd be healthy and be happy and they be holy.
38:52 And I am thinking reflecting on what you shared in the messages that you've brought to us about living for eternity and saving are enjoying an end and raising our families during our families and thinking about history and serving. Our community is very much Place into the are our happiness our health and hopefully our growing Holiness. So thank you for all you done to assure that we are healthy and happy and holy I think you've been successful and I hope I hope you continue to feel that way Mom that is a wonderful message and very much got inspired and I say God bless you all and thank you to you Kathleen for arranging it has your mom. This is a blessing to take care.