Ana Riddel, Christina Solis, and Jose Solis

00:07 My name is Christina Solis. I'm 33 years old. Today is February 2nd. 2007 Groundhog Day. The groundhog did not see his shadow. So I think we're supposed to get an early winter today this year. We're in Houston, Texas and I am interviewing my great-aunt.

00:28 At my name is Anna riddle, and I hate to tell you that my age is 91 1/2 and 12 to 15.

00:42 And we are in Houston, Texas.

00:45 And I am these children's great and but I treat them like grandchildren.

00:52 My name is Jose Solis and I'm 32. Today is the February 2nd. This is Houston, Texas. And this is my great-aunt and like she said she's actually really my grandmother.

01:05 We we wanted to talk to Anna today about just how wonderful she is and how much we love her. We're very very close family. And I think people tell us whenever they run into us that our family is is unbelievable and I just think it's family and we all come from this place of the valley that I have never really been that aware of it before our family comes from Mercedes, Texas, which is a Border Town and we wanted to kind of get a sense of that. What was it like the valley? What is that place that that that word from? It was a quiet little town schools were great in those days. I still remember some of the teachers and just like Christina says we came from very close family. I had a brother and a sister.

02:01 And we really enjoyed school. And of course, we had a limited amount of friends, but we had some good neighbors, but it was a quiet little town but I'll have to say that I never had to use an outside pretty always had inside Plumbing, but I can remember when they brought lights in electric light and certain they were no good roads in the valley and those days people got stuck all the time, but that didn't still keep people from going places. We went to Brown's when we had a lot of relatives in Brownsville and my father had business there so we went often and it was like going to New York today in army people dressed up and you went to visit all the wonderful relatives and certainly to eat out.

02:53 But it was a wonderful childhood experience to live there. My parents were loving and really couldn't do enough for you, but then my mother was really a disciplinarian and I think these kids remember that wanted everything just so and now looking back on it. I think she had the right idea. I mean we've all going to be wonderful people and and then of course when we all went all the grandchildren and my sister and her children and then these children and their mother went more than their father did but we all had a good time we could go to the beach and they certainly found out what it was like to live in a small town and then of course we were on the border so we went across the river a lot and things weren't as strict in some ways as they are today.

03:51 But then when you had friends over there too, and it was always an experience and the towns in the valley were so close together that you look from one to the other you had friends and all of them and then you had lots of parties dances, but you couldn't go without a chaperone or in date, but they were fun things to do then. I can't remember that anybody played bridge then and some of the things that people do today, but I remember that we go to the fair that we usually in Harlingen and the things that came to town even an offer came to Mercedes one, and we went to see it and

04:39 Now, of course, I have a lot more things to do. And of course in those days you sat around the dining room table and talked and you certainly listen to your parents and I don't think kids do that today very much. It's always wanted to go and see the TV or whatever. So it was a wonderful childhood. Did you did you go to the ranch a lot and you got used to being around the cows in the pigs and and then the people at the ranch that work the the ranch we go on Saturdays and they always had good things to eat the word differ from what we had at home. So it was a written experience and got to come right up Buckboard wagon.

05:23 And ride horses, not your father's Ranch. Why don't nobody ran several cows. I mean you don't cattle on it, but it wasn't as big as what he'd had before.

05:49 Twenties and where was that he had marant that was taken away at some point in their agrarian movement came into Mexico. They went in and told him he had to vacate. So did he own the ranches that or did you just leave the ranch? Just calling? It wasn't a good Market time, but he always thought that these people that came to take over the land that it wasn't their idea. They were told to do that. So he killed a steer and had a barbecue for them and all that and then moved to arrange it was a little closer and I went to a lot and it was fun, but it was sort of an abandoned Ranch and they were millions of rattlesnakes.

06:49 Run very far from there. So I don't think kids to do all these things today. They're more entertained with TV and all that and they sure don't sit around the dining room table to talk to go to watch TV. Sounds like two different kids in a week or Upland, you know, we would go would always eat dinner together and you know, we only could watch TV a certain amount of time and then we went to our parent, you know, our foreparents Ranch and you know, I watched outfits rattlesnake know what you guys had a growing up my father learned a lot from his father and we're always so glad to be together.

07:49 We still have that we don't have a lot of that, you know, we spend time together and live together and Olivia and I used to live together in the Bay Area. And so, you know, I don't think that's that's typical of snow is why do I have to keep up with my brothers and sisters, you know, I mean we grew up together, but then that's it. Those are the people, you know, the best they understand you right there willing to listen to your happy time. And I think the whole family really is like that of course and then the ones that are out of town Yuna Christine comes often and rusting out of the way.

08:49 Well in and I think that also that do you have people like Mark enjoy doing their photograph project? And you know, we'll be happy to give this project to them for free and they have really done a lot of work and it's been most interesting because my forefathers came in the mid 1700 and we're really influential in the little towns and where develop their and even Matamoras which was a bigger place headquarters for the church and that sort of thing, but it was an interesting time and you always want to sit around and listen when people would stop by our house a lot and we wanted to sit around and listen to the tales that they had everybody Solis.

09:39 Where are the Saudis were pretty right now in the valley and there were so many of them and then we were so closely related to the champion Three Sisters Four Sisters married three brothers and a nephew and they were from Italy.

09:54 And everybody that's a champion in the valley is related to the selection.

10:00 But I said, you know, you couldn't go very far to look for a girlfriend. So, where are you? Where are you were stuck in a marriage and I just happened in tiles to where I lived. You came there. You were stuck. You couldn't go other places but the old ranching families in Texas had a lot of parties for the younger people to get to Media only I can imagine you have to make arrangements for you have young suitors serenading you with pianos and everything my brother had a wonderful German violin professor and he was a master at that violin and I can't say that I was Google I can't say that. I was too good with a piano.

10:50 I just fell out I mean that was the end of that but

10:56 He was a little town but I'm ever going to have a question passes. You know, I mean you could learn to talk and do this and enunciate and all that and it'll say the teachers were wonderful man, but they were dedicated people that I think now, I mean, it's the paycheck and born in nineteen women born in 1915 who went to college and I'm not even close to first generation College mean obviously your parents really cared about you all the time that you had to get an education and we there was never any question by when you come home from school and said around this dining room table to do at home work and we helped each other and she was there but you never had to say that you can't go play until you do your homework. We knew that that's what we had to do.

11:56 Didn't have to say it. Now that was a great mother or we live in the same town and didn't see very much of daddy sisters because they lived It On The Rain tree saw them maybe on Saturdays when we went but we didn't always go to the little village part of the ranch. So that was fun. But there were wonderful experience. You just listen to people talk about that and I don't know. It just was such a good garius guy and everybody stop by to have a cup of coffee or a drink right and the drinks in those days with a shot of whiskey or whatever with water Chaser and I don't know that we ever had any beer around in those days.

12:54 But that was just Hospitality. Did you have a chaperone or did. We had phone one phone in the hall at the rooming house where I was the lovely rooming house in the house weather was really nice and all the girls got to get a photo of the boyfriend that whatever I didn't seem to have that problem. Did you know anybody order to TSA? Well, I mean, I haven't dated and I thought I don't know about these guys coming around Latin American Club and it was a blast and I got it all the students that were from the Latin world and we had a couple of them from Saudi Arabia and one from the Philippines.

13:54 That came our meetings associated.

13:59 Later later. It was the first Hispanic Bluebonnet bail bed and thought about that then I don't know what they're doing now cuz I have been back in a long time, but we had picnics and people always had guitars around and it was just great fun. And I think I knew one couple that dated all of us and we're just friends is that when you first got involved in it where it started getting involved in organizations, and because I called everybody I said, you better get yourself over here, you know, we're going to have a speaker and then one of my experiences and being involved with that was J Frank Dobie, he was wonderful and of course he could speak Spanish, but he invited us.

14:52 Two years in a row to go to The Faculty Club to have dinner with him on Pan-American day. And of course, he told tales about the coyotes and you know ranch life and all that and they were a few of them. I guess they were from Mexico the students that went to that. They were just a few of us said it went for that but he would just so interested in what was happening with the Latin America. They wanted the people to get involved in that or what they did before but nobody would go to those meetings and I thought this is ridiculous the only Latin American Club on the campus and then nobody goes so I get on the phone and then after that you went had a coat we had dances and hard and Orchestra and everybody paid a little bit. So it was those are great years, of course City College Years and you study chemistry

15:43 Kids chemistry took like 3 minutes. Did you get did you to go on a nursing school or was that your plan technician school? Is that how you met Roy or okay, when I went there as a as a student and then say that one year they are learned it in those days. You didn't buy the reagents to do all these tests you had to make them is different now. I mean you just ordering you get all these things and then it was interesting because of those days the technicians that worked in the clinical lab you went to the wards to bleed the people and I love you have to talk to Daniel. I got to have strange friends, but they were really nice and warm you went from streetwalkers to old people to the mafia. You know that.

16:40 It was a little bit and a lot of semen, you know that came that had to go to the hospital. So that was to me what they had for years. So he did not know and then of course when I started going with white with a different world because he was from West Texas on you lot of the students that were from West, Texas.

17:03 And all the road and that's what we went to all the fraternity thing said we go for dinner and then go home, but it was a different Community Galveston with just a campus in a world of its own schools are like that we have anything to do with town is the University and there were a few boys that dated people in town and they would come to the return parties there. It was fun but a different kind of fun, but nobody had a car everybody walked everywhere, right?

18:03 And then he had a surgical resident to st. Mary's and I was working. Okay, so we both worked there and then we went to Austin and we were there just a few months and he had a surgical residency there and then we got the offer to go work for Uncle Sam and we went to Holston Ordnance which was in Kingsport, Tennessee. And that's where they playing the engineers for Shangri-La, which is right. Right, right, and it was a different Community a hundred miles from here.

18:50 General Carlos Romero from the Philippines he was with MacArthur and they sent him over here to talk about his experiences and how they got a handful of rice during the war when they were isolated. And so they sent him over here to sell bonds and it came to Kingsport. I was never so glad to see anybody. That was that now we became very good friends for years and years and he was in Lubbock. And then I think I signed here one time and it was eventually went back to the Philippine. But his heart ache was that he had lost his only son in an airplane accident during the war that's awful awful, but then I would buy the Texas things for your grandkids, you know, the crutches in the badges and he's always take him back into the theater from your friend in Texas. When did you end up back in Lubbock?

19:44 Where are the city and we went to Lubbock after?

19:48 After the war after I went back there waiting for the Navy to call him. So we were there about six months. So that's where judge was born. I was about to admit that she was texting and and all of that. I followed the Navy around.

20:16 For two years and that was tough with two kids cuz I didn't want you anywhere with kids. I thought you had to stay home and take care of and I thought I was like, yeah. All up and down the coast and Roy got assigned here and there it was fun. We can go to the Officers Club and I went to the church and I said, I've got two kids and I have got to have some help so they got married young girls to work for me because I didn't know anybody in those town so she would babysit and we would go to the Officers Club. So, you know, you have to make your way wherever you are there ways to do this. So it was a different world all cuz you never knew when you were going to look at orders in the car. I had a playpen in a buggy in there. So I was born in San Diego.

21:16 And that was a rude awakening with judge was born that you stayed in the bed for 10 days and nearly killed or when you got up and deliver chart the next morning kid to get up have a shower and went back to Lubbock or did you come to Houston or no? We went to Lubbock and we stayed there for a couple years because all the schools were fooling all the residency for then. We applied to Houston and got in here for the Urology. And of course I was having for me. Yeah, but didn't see you all at you all but when exactly when you were here, I mean at some point you really started becoming involved in the Arts what when you moved here, I mean cuz you've had since I didn't get involved with the Arts I did in Lubbock before you got here. Okay, but it was a community that everything in it was

22:16 But after the war and they were starting up, you know, I mean I was on the board of child welfare.

22:23 And I used to think that that would be funny or thing about kids and they got but then I had to go to court to testify that these kids were being mistreated by the mama and she was so depressed. And so we took the children from her and that nearly bought with foster care. In fact that it was really tough to do that people weren't used to doing this, but then I got involved with the church and I did a lot of welfare work.

23:01 And I always thought that that was interesting. But then sometimes you would get discuss it with these people because you're taking money you take him food you took whatever they need to know how to build it out. And I used to tell the church that they should at seminars teaching them how to grab a bite to eat eggs actually pants and shirts and things for the young boys if they could go to work cuz they didn't have it and certainly got a lot of Mama's to get be taken in by the hospital there. I would go to do the begging for them to deliver their taken. So the husband in have any Hospital insurance, so it was practically the last day for delivery not going beg him to please take this lady.

23:59 You know, I ain't no prenatal care nothing of that.

24:03 And then I don't know I just got involved doing.

24:07 Pollo Sprite and TB testing in the schools. So it was them.

24:14 If it just was so many things and you know, I mean the room mother in the dais and the scouts and I just got really involved and then I was involved with the Red Cross. And of course I was after the war they can have as much to do but I still got involved and then of course, I worked a lot with the Junior League. They're in daycare of daycares always been so close to my heart and I don't think we have enough today in the country and I don't think that there is enough provision to take care of kids. So that was some that's right. So it was really all of those were interesting and you learn a different thing than I was.

24:59 Vice-chair of the museum there and we had a lot of fundraising to do and all that and the museum was connected with Texas Tech. So it was different than being by yourself you had some states but not much. They just weren't interested in that. That's not that much different now either but the University of we should have been hitting it didn't care too much but there are a lot of people in town that were interested and that's how come they have the ranching headquarters. Are they move doll houses from the old ranches which was renting country there and they moved him into a compound the Cowboys and then you had the big homes of the Cattle Baron's so it was an interesting time they're too

25:52 Joe but then by the time I got to Houston which was swept in the 60s. Of 69 by that time, I just needed to do something and that's when I got a pointed to the commission on the Arts was that fun. It was fun, but it was a challenge. I just kept thinking never state for Arts that sit on it. Unless of course you had the basic state Grant from the National Endowment for the Arts that helps a lot because then you could do more work and you can help me with the lobby help you in the lobby and all that and those were wonderful years. I mean I did that for 8 years. Did you go to Austin a lot a lot a lot sometimes three times a week.

26:52 To make with all the the panels to give the money for 3 years of the Grand and that was hard hats really hard. It had to stay up till 3 in the morning go through all those grants meet down there and recommend what was to be funded. Did you get to but you got to meet a lot of great people. I'm sure the cities in you went to the people that shakers movers and people that had money so they can support the Arts and I guess the hardest one was El Paso really when I went several times, but my God, I just took you forever to get a long time 15 minutes south west coast, but we went on a lot of private place. We went to Austin we went to Midland.

27:52 We want lots of places to meet so that the people would get a commission right now. And what they started is, I guess you would call it an endowment fund gets mixed. Yeah, so they gave me a party and they want 200 million, but then that way they'd be secure support from the state but it wouldn't be the same as complete and at no time was it not important to get that endowment and that was a basic state Grant New York. That is fair share that cuz I had more people and one things to offer but I think there's one industry started coming in here. Like she'll

28:52 And any of the big companies they want to know what the quality of life was in Houston and I have lots of people of CEO wants to come to my house to find out where they should put everywhere you kidding that you would pick was the right thing whatever they were interested, but then they started asking that they would move here unless we had the quality of life thinks the Opera the symphony Music Theater the whole thing. So, I mean we've been up with you know, all of those things in place. What were they like when you first moved in it was hard and it was hard for the people that had to do the fundraising.

29:38 Can I work for fundraising for the museum but the Browns supported that a lot and they had a lot of people that gave money for that. Yes. And so we were and the Houston endowment. So we were in a lot of very basic people to go to for fun. And at the same people that you know, you are on the board of the Art League and Claudio executive director. And then you got involved with that alarm was one of the Founders Inn in that was fun in a real challenge. Anytime you get involved with those things. I found out what all it took to get a bill through it was hard work and I got on the telephone and

30:29 And called legislators that I never heard of it and then found out at the end that all you had to do is go to be a hobby and we did and then for out of that meeting came that one of the men that was helping his name is John Lindsay said that Mr. Clayton was that speaker.

30:50 Any good pound that gavel that anytime you know, and they were both Huggies and that was a blessing that all my hard work before I leave the name. I got if I just known this if you could have shortcut, you know other things but I didn't regret it. I mean a lot of people that I thought were great. And that's the was the bill from message legislation to establish 1% of the hotel motel tax for this is what keeps this is what I do with Kathy Whitmire was wonderful to work what they were all the Mayors I started working with Fred Hofheinz, and he was wonderful because he understood that we had to have the big city the Arts here or you couldn't draw industry so

31:44 That was great fun. When you have the only thing we couldn't talk any of them into was.

31:53 The 20% of a building a very very good job 75% of any new capital project has to be dedicated for Arthur say they couldn't understand that if you build a water plant or so glad that that didn't have to be put out at the sewer plant. You put it in there. Right? And I don't think they ever understood that we don't have a lot. We need more Mecum fountains and you know, we just say if we could have a hundred mountains in Houston that they would be the city of fountains and they could all be beautiful and design well, but I will have what one on Allen Parkway and the Mecum and then the re Bob Smith downtown and it's an ugly one.

32:53 Medical Center of the parking garage that sells a waterfall earmarked as art in public places have a tour of art. I'll try to get that start at the University of Houston. The universe's using riddle. This University is for students and their wall mounted very well and we have one Henry Moore in Houston and it's on Allen Parkway and very poorly Mount mud hole around it and it just a shame and just when I went to Taos was when I was getting ready to City said they would do the labor if I got the apartment while I was well on my way. So what is your idea of moving to Taos all by yourself when you are where I thought the war was gone, and I wanted to see if I could do something on my own.

33:50 I didn't know anybody there a couple of friends of Ronald's were there for a little while but then I thought I needed the challenge. I mean something to keep me busy cuz I've done so much stuff here. Maybe I'll run out of things you never do but I know you don't it's always something but then I couldn't go anywhere here by myself. Everybody was afraid to go out after 6, and I'd go to something they say, okay ladies time to go back and get your jails, you know, but on the burglar alarm and after that I want to go to a place where I can still go. I still wanted to go and do all those things that when I went to the house I could go by myself the openings or whatever.

34:34 Was it $0.80 and you came back in 99 and it was a great experience my beloved and of course, I can't go back there. But I have some very fond memories of the place and the people were so wonderful to me with a lot of things and I think they were just to have Outsiders. They tell me that now The Outsiders that are coming in don't want to do anything for the local community involved but I think that you shouldn't come in and use a community and not get back. I don't care where you live. You have to get back as part of your obligation as a citizen to do this.

35:22 And of course things a lot more money around the house until cuz then so it's them maybe a little everybody in my family is somehow or another involved in various causes that you don't support that you have whatever it is, you know, and even if you don't have money you can give your time off and I found it people as much as they're appreciative of money there if you're willing to do something and take charge of something. That's what they want more than any more than anything else. But are you going to talk about your project? And that's what happened?

36:06 And there I thought it was fun because like the fall Arts Festival are millions of people came in from New York Mets, Alabama, Louisiana. Remember where and you volunteered then you got to visit with it and came to just buy stuff at the show that used to come from New York and she bought some strange art from which is very fond of because it was emerging artists and they came out with some cooking cuz I didn't care. So what you know how many there were making a name for themselves and it's still going but I think they're having a few problems and there is always Growing Pains The Way It Is Well, I mean, it's funny because you know, Claudia went from you know, a teeny-weeny Arts organization to the largest one in town. I'll drive and you know and some way she runs into the same exact thing.

37:06 The same every time I want everything on their way, and I don't think that's the way to participate you learn from everybody. We're there for you or against Chile has something to eat. Right? And I think you need a lot of interesting people got a lot of interesting people when I was on the municipal art Commission because those are developers and Industry, you know, that's that's what I'm experiencing now with being on live the Houston Arts Alliance, which is swits used to be in the net Sports Commission in I've met I met people there that I never would have made it before I would never would have encountered before but it's interesting to meet them because they're just they're just as interested in you are but you're crap. Has it never crossed.

37:54 You had more experience at some of those things and they're so busy doing their thing to ask him. What did he do? It was a developer drive around Houston every blasted Street to see what could be torn down or what could be put there or you know, which is an angle and I never had been involved with a lot from him. He was an interesting ever any return Anderson the art that he did a good job with his year old Omni and all right in there somewhere that every city in East Texas was certainly an experience, you know what to go to when I started not counsel there. I went to Lufkin

38:43 And we had known from our Mountain experience of the curse and it was funny to see their imprints on the little town, you know course I me they were works a lot with Time magazine that owns a lot of the forest and all of that so but everywhere you went to I went to Victoria a lot when they were starting their are canceled there and it's quite a community cuz it's so many Old-Timers and they're interested in the culture and I think if you get people interested it at happens wherever it is that wants to do something.

39:23 And so that's why I think it's so sad that we don't have more art education money that new about are they went to the school and they said let us take over just give us the time for the student to put in with these projects. They had projects and they had mirrors and they had all those things disposals kid. And I think that today if they had more schools like that with things that would interest their students besides.

39:53 The science excited to go to school that's what happened here for the Performing Arts School Visual Arts lot of people stayed in school because of that they would do very well with her academic said they couldn't say they went into radio or performing or singing or playing or whatever and they have a very good job, right? There are great and they said that some of the best students came from here to see because it was so disciplined right said that they learned how to do that their time, you know, and I just when you think of the Dropout in this town if they had more like that goes I think they could keep kids in school give him a little bit of academics and then

40:51 And there were a lot of those kids that were in that school that would have dropped out so they were bored, but they did the academicos that had to be part of it.

41:02 And it was wonderful and they put on some marvelous place and thanks. It was just really that super experienced and the normal louder was the principal at that school and she got involved with us when we were doing the sister city thing and it was rude and then we took a Mexican Festival there that I organized and it was great fun. We took the Mexican dancers and they literally danced in the streets. It's a longer to help me because where was I going to get the funding, you know to take those kids over there, but they have come in they put them up when we got there.

41:49 And they had the music on a regular buddy, I can set so they play those things and dance out there in the streets menu am all over town in just a minute. That's really great experiences that when I went the people would say paddles and tortillas and God had a good contracts and you know going into the petroleum x-and-o that organization. I can remember when they were having so many problems and now they're on easy street. They have done a magnificent job.

42:49 I think most Museum should take a look at what they've done to see how you can turn. Absolutely an organization into a years ago. But he oh my God, they were wondering we didn't know whether to put them in with major institution or keep them as a minor and you know, I mean it just you know, the school for the museum was in a rinky-dink old house. I don't remember on Alabama or somewhere and then they've had their own building and so they started going that way.

43:28 But I just think that you need to get the corporations in Houston is great with all these foundations. It really do it. And then you just a buck smell Gregory question. Are we had it still a question now and we have we have one. I mean that's one of the big issues for Houston Arts Alliance is making sure that we can attract the right people to come to Houston and it is a good thing because they say when they have thousands of people working for them. They have to have something to offer for all these and their children. I think it's a really really important and here's the change a lot but all for the bear I mean

44:22 Can't say enough good things about you every now and then think about what would I do if I left Houston and then I'm like pain and I miss all the all the stuff and see how it's going to grow up and change it. Let me look at the house. I'm in my goddamn in the population of Taos when I move there was 2520 in the county and it was the same thing there. I just did you just need people there interested in those things.

44:55 And they were all do different kinds of people. You know, how many school teachers two people that were House Painters and you know, it was just that kind of community. It was a little harder.

45:10 But it's a all of it is a wonderful experience. If you get involved found that out and you all have done a very good job with that. I mean if your interest change things that you didn't know anything at all about. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you learn so much more by getting involved. And yes you do and you find out what makes it tick right? Yes. It is. It is being in here yesterday not very many people. We come to Houston, you know, but it's all been a long and interesting life.

45:57 And I think you all are picking up the banner info. Yeah, we definitely are and you found out that it's a worthwhile thing to do. If I didn't couldn't have five five board meetings in my Lobby day planned parenthood in and it's a wonderful thing, you know, when you know, Jose has all these board meetings. And yeah, and I used it. Tell them that. They should go see their representatives or senators from their region and nobody wanted to do that. There is always more excited to go to office administrator part of it gets another into their

46:57 And took a lot of people from here to have lunch with them Representatives. So and working in the Hispanic Community when I think now of maca and the name of the other organization has to be appealing we're back in those days because there wasn't such a thing and we had a man here Arnold Arnold control what I was last night, but he had bilingual theater and he was a wonderful director, He just missed his calling that made, you know, but you got a lot of older people involved in those two play the My Mother and other whatever which is great and then there was a

47:43 A girl here. She lives in San Antonio now and then Richard who lives here. He's the one that puts on.

47:51 Pancho Claus. David's man that mean they do a whole lot with that. They lose weight of those which I think is great because a lot of the population doesn't understand all that and then we went to a tangle thing. I don't think you all went to that put on by the Continental Club, which I'm a member of it's a bunch of old women that get together but they're all hands in Spanish all interest and this lady had just come here from Argentina and she's a she and her husband are Tango professors. Did she wrote up a play about the tango and it was wonderful and it was at Mecca and those guys from the oil company and all that. In that pay you that blasted stage and they did all that stuff.

48:51 But the playoffs were just great and it's how many people had been I haven't been to Mecca. Richard was like y'all so

49:07 Yeah, I will say what I think we've had a wonderful afternoon yet the reminiscing.

49:14 Thank you very much. Thank you very much for all your welcome. You know, we just love hearing about we love spending time. So it's taking it an hour to spend with us. This always wonderful and to do this which is even even better even better even better.