Aliki Dzahristas and Roula Simmons

Recorded July 15, 2017 Archived July 15, 2017 40:38 minutes
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Description

Aliki N. Dzahristas (87) tells her daughter Roula D Simmons (52) about growing up in Greece, owning her own businesses, immigrating to America, and the sacrifices she made for her family.

Subject Log / Time Code

A remembers growing up in Greece & moving to Athens.
A recalls the jobs she worked growing up in the village.
A remembers having her own business.
A recalls trying to buy a house in America.
R thanks A for her sacrifices & moving to America.
A talks about her husband bringing money home every day.

Participants

  • Aliki Dzahristas
  • Roula Simmons

Recording Locations

Detroit Institute of Arts

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Transcript

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00:03 My name is Rula. Crystal Simmons. I'm 52 years old. It's July 15th, 2017 and Warren Detroit Michigan and I'm talking with my mother.

00:16 Yes.

00:19 This is my daughter.

00:21 The name is Roblox on your name.

00:28 And I can from Grease know. How old are you? I am already 5757 68787 sunnyridge. The date is July 15th.

00:49 And that means it's really

00:52 And who am I?

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00:57 My lungs and my

01:03 I'm your daughter.

01:05 The girl is using my daughter ruler.

01:11 Electric baby activity and I have two more babies two more babies.

01:21 So before you came here Mom you grew up in Zola before I can hear I grew up in a village place.

01:36 Can I take a B+ oenis and I really

01:41 You live with your brother light blue.

01:46 Andressa is the area. That was the address.

01:57 And I had a good time and ask him if you're doing business there. Yeah, and I have my own business I make it swell as I can message people for men's. Why did you why did you move to Athens from Zola?

02:21 And Ferb are life, he and he couldn't he couldn't live by himself. He needed someone to help him and I had to take care of him. Who did you cook to for him?

02:38 He he was your older brother and he took care of you and the family Academy.

02:47 You dress nicely. Vicky. He buy me nice clothes, but I can receive and let me get the dresses beautiful beautiful dress. You didn't get married until later when I get ready and they almost ready I think yeah.

03:15 I want to get ready.

03:17 And what will you do not want to get married, but I need him to fix me and I won't give up for you play. I don't want to bother you cuz he was engaged you couldn't why couldn't you live by yourself? Because I can even buy stuff with where women are not allowed to live by themselves known that since you were still but not everyone it was what was the year 1950s? 1919 late 50s 60s. Nicholas.

04:04 And I have Sam. Yeah, I get it. That's enough. I was looking at one place and I almost sent to me and all I want to do some machine. Is there a sweater so much in the air?

04:21 And because they call me regarding because I might go over there.

04:32 Makes a old CCU.

04:41 Can I give you some of that?

04:45 I come back to business.

04:49 They just to watch so so you met my father and his being with you your father because

05:02 That's kind of what village was that in the middle on the mainland and when you met him, what did you think? What do you think about his jacket used to be safe safe safe mode of a cloth napkin holder clothes with a jacket bigger shoulders and neck. She talked to me. She want to see me.

05:57 For my brother-in-law I say no way. I not go out because one day it'll give us for your brother having to meet me.

06:08 Can I say I like you you you changed but I don't like you and she see what we go to carry their young like every money. We need to meet every day with no bananas everyday. Nobody has ever say that way you are.

06:55 We stay together and we marry and then you got to let you go for that another daughter and I will find another if you don't like I told him if I remember you said if if you're good to me, I'll be good to you. But you told you no bananas and no meat every day, but he's he talked very nice because you going to school the week and he went to what grade did he go? He went to the 6th grade. What grade did you go to school?

07:35 I'm going to school. I not go. Let's go too much. We couldn't. My phone and it is in the Germany and Italy to Germany and Italy was in your village and you couldn't go to school a good school or not. And it was hard was that that was hard that is left and I used to work in if I think you only went to kindergarten I think that's what you told me kindergarten. Did you say you wanted to go to school though you yeah, I wanted to but then I got high school did girls go to school in the village where they allowed to go with the boy that got my back to school and asked if you had six four brothers and two three sisters and that everybody went to school except for you and Bobby are real brother Bobby and you guys what was it? What was your job in the village?

08:30 I walk in the club. Be careful lyrics

08:34 I we could have got for the rest of the summer. Did you watch the goats to watch the chicken step goals?

08:46 I said we can beat.

08:59 And every time I come back home when she saw me and time I walked in the house that. As you open the cash on me.

09:11 I got a daddy and night over there that looks to me what you do that was going to give him the report again. I say yes. Yes. Yes and one day my mother cuz he he had colon cancer and he was in the bed for a long time unless you know how sorry I am out of here. You want me to make it one, please?

09:59 Recipes leaves are you know, but you didn't buy clothes you made your own close it somebody in the family may choose who who made the shoes 7 and out of out of I think you told me paper cardboard shoes shoes. That's what they that's what you had my ankle a lot of property. My mind was hanging out with a heavy and use the food tigers on the tires when they got a live one of the tires enough to eat in the village my brother Dimitri. He will fix you because my brother-in-law brother-in-law

10:55 He have you met and my brother was going in there to go again. Please keep me informed every time I am out of a cool kind of weed and feed. Did you have you don't have electricity? How did you cook or Goku by voice? And then we can cut and paste middle finger and it was always kind of Lights should make a work out of the continent did did she have any matches should have bought my mother box message?

11:48 And then after that what she's having it sent in the next days until you get it out at the fight. No TV or no radio for fun things my father just to see Mickey Singh and everybody with one night time after dinner drink.

12:25 I would nine my I love you. It's a good life though. Yeah.

12:39 I know and I think my brother left because my aunt asked for my brother, but she works so hard.

12:51 Future Funk you say I take a good message Bible brother going to ask him if ya want to get ready because the girls had to get married by Buddy Spa that you know, I don't like this.

13:12 They call me to work now.

13:15 And I know going to have to extend I could get two brothers wash your clothes by can my brother and so you left everybody in the village has a your mother and your everybody to go to Athens, and I'm out of it.

13:38 My brother you don't he can visit in one of the times we figured yeah, you helped her with the two kids cuz her husband was in the Navy and he was gone all the time when

14:00 The Germans were in the devil needs at least a almost didn't get in the village. Yeah, but, you know not available.

14:16 Glad I miss you. Nobody Kelly. Joblo. Will you fraid why the hell we have a say that it's paid for your friends when they were in the at one time.

14:29 But my grandpa is closed today and I suggest we may want to give it back unless they are 10 years old and night I'm saying every time I saw Germany, I may not want to see them.

15:01 Weight loss because of inflation

15:07 Soon and so I've been in the Germany Euro hide when they were absolutely Wicked that like having practice and we had my mother put him I said, please.

15:43 She will probably Yeah Yeahs gave ya and we'll stay there for another day and night that he said, yes, but it will make every light in the house because I'm helpless taking butt warmers with your baby. Oh baby baby after night because I'm happy. Yeah, so

16:37 Is a better life, yeah.

16:41 Better life hacks

16:43 So when you when you are in Athens, and you met Bubba and you guys got married.

16:51 He worked and you worked. I'll NS conditioner at my brother. That means a lot near me.

17:01 I going to grow and I stay working for one of you that I did not pay me, but I love me. Yeah, I need the fattest Alex yet. I Can't Tell You Why the channel to find another Jeff to go up because you want to hear very nice. But the when I get money to pay you and I hate to see you couldn't go to a store and buy clothes. Then you had to you had that you had to go to people to make the make the clothes when I buy the fabric. Yeah my brother play for the teacher. So when you when you married by

17:48 And you were married for 5 years and then you had you had me and I was your first baby. Yes. You're the first baby three years later because my brother body properly for me and because the ghosts and yeah, and then after that

18:15 Debbie and nice save the money he working it working.

18:20 You could have tonight to get ready and I will need you to her house. She showed us that won't be stopping by the grocery shopping my brother bought it for me. When you did it by yourself. You had your own business then yes, and then you had Georgie to my brother cuz I have another baby Yeah Yeahs 16 months later had two babies and laughing. Maybe she said she invited you get your sister here. What well when I told you that he wanted to come to America. He told me after they sent the letter. So he asked if he tell you he was going to ask a couple weeks ago. I met the grease the people. Yeah, my sister.

19:19 What did Goose Tatum back to school to Greece play Singapore came back? And you did say you won America's big place?

19:52 By the way, what? Why what how did you feel when he told you to come to America? You didn't want to go. I'm going to leave a family business. I woke you then. Why did you say you wanted to come then? I want to come by cuz I can see why did he want to come here? Because he looked out of the Americas. You better get used to call it the big the big people the best the big land and he is he better for the kids. Are you scared when you scared to come here was he scared that he wanted to do anyone to come in but she is at 5 and 7 weeks when you first got here and your son you stepped off the airplane. What did you think?

20:51 I thought Big Sky, me you were not happy with your two babies. And you didn't speak any English. I don't know. What should I say to get a baby to sit when you have a second. And one day, you know.

21:14 Are you going to have to make a bet you that woman is but you came with two suitcases just two suitcases too, baby. So badly and the guy had $2,000 in his money in his but he hid it in his belt and it was cuz he wasn't allowed to bring it here it he had anybody might tell my sister. I told my sister.

21:53 Places that Lydia has been sleeping and I wanted to place because I can do babies and Olympic you got the photo. But did you ever want to go back to just say forget it? This is too hard. I wasn't very many. I thought I was a bit but that's why we come back. I can find in my family said like machinist you gave everything away if I eat it later if you waste so did you think about was sorry that he came here. He probably feel sorry because she looks good job with this, but he was happy to be here and make it big but he was happy to be here and he's happy after he get me to let it go let him and he got a job at the factory and he got a job for not not lazy, but I never helped them we bought at the house.

22:51 Every move in the house and I never so much as a not working and she can just feel sorry. He can get you told me that he would leave around the house when I'm going to make it. I'm going to show everybody I'm going to do it before me no matter what I look at be looked at by now, but he was still in school so they had to be hard for him because you didn't have anyone to anyone to talk to but he still did it and I have anybody to talk and I have anybody to kill the managing next door.

23:29 She helps scalp. Yeah, and she said we go.

23:36 And they gave you and Nick Maddox and he got a job at General Motors.

23:43 And he will accept any and I don't think he was I think he was very happy to be here because the rest of nobody else came from the family everybody stayed everybody stayed there stayed in Greece by you guys and they all are busy.

24:08 Road rash between I have another baby in my stomach is such a and your daddy.

24:16 Even asking me why I'm crying everyday, but I have another baby and then my stomach and my other brother John when you had a baby face gets up in the morning about the baby baby. I know she knows I know I have baby in my stomach, but now, you know, I'm dying for a little bit because I can't help but I'm not giving up home for 3-4 months.

24:57 No phone when I see I was hired and then it was convicted of myself. We bought in the house to put the money down to buy the house you do us.

25:12 Because we give it to me in class that we can buy please morning and that if we're not there yet.

25:27 Do you ever think you ever think now about what it would be like if you lived in Greece now if you because you didn't like what he said.

25:42 Specially the bedtime.

25:50 But I had the property in the house was right about leaving in about your story and how you came here and buy a story.

26:03 You mean so much to me because you needed a little all the time in the Jordan John and I haven't got back with you with you happy because we go in the house and I found it back to sleep.

26:23 Lauren any good daughter and I remember the first day I go to cow's Eye Blind lyrics are let go to watch the ceiling and I love addicts and washing machine and I looked up Holly IG on the color eye care in the mic. And then I finally won one will come up there and I cannot but I say I give you a call if I hear an American people easily Chi and happy.

26:58 And nobody Beauty chi I want to be happy and healthy.

27:03 Chevy my husband

27:13 Not that you cannot get to get a check when I get BV after day is your daddy to kick you in the hospital and wishes Bessie, and she helped you bettas. And anybody who speaks great. Let it go. You can help she can help them, but you gave up so much.

27:37 Yeah, I'm here.

27:40 Yeah, you made up Happy Thanksgiving. I can do the job. I don't go by that every time when I get my feel like I can't do something always think of your story and I know I can do it very close to me and to Daddy.

28:06 He be here if you're strong because you weren't $74 that weekend. Every day. He done anything with you video.

28:22 He gives up for me to get food and I want you both did everything for us. Yeah, everything you gave up everything. I don't know what it be like to go to another country and not speak the language and not have any friends and not have any money and had two young children at school when it. But you said that you would help if you had I know that I was to tell you this, but I know that if you had a little bit of an opportunity to go to school, you're so smart. You started the business heater. You started a business. You would have done steak, but you have it in your heart and that will and you and I have to just go forward you have it restaurant.

29:12 And I thought I never stopped Nothing Stops you I go go go and get it the same no matter what we are going going going going. We not spend money. We going to talk to him. We pay the 30 money that do this weekend.

29:35 Yeah, and now you live with and now you live with me. Did you ever think you were going to live with me for 10 years? I thought maybe one day I should like this and that give me a chance to see him look at it, and I'm very happy.

29:55 But I like how you just said I'm going up with your kids. They go to the ball.

30:01 What should I do if I call? I hope I hope that your two grandchildren learn from learn from you and get your strength because then they'll be able to do anything, but I want to know where

30:21 It was that much because I thought my little girl did you think you were going to live with me though? And Ino, he died. I like him a lot to do I care and I'm so I want to do and I'm so glad because when we were growing up you didn't you were always working. We never had time to spend together together baby. That's why you would take care of you and be with you is something that it's a I'm so grateful. I been any time of the doctor.

31:05 Before you go to baby to talk about you baby in the stomach. Yeah, I've been before yeah, because I'm very happy you get married because you don't want to get them ready for 5 years after it's a good life now, isn't it? It's a good life.

31:24 And I want one of your calls before you asking me and I say you always have to hold on to her. I know I can't because I know you know, what about Alexia was he is he planning for you?

31:52 Have you be happy? I just really wanted to just say thank you for coming coming to America and giving everything up for us. And for even you know, you you didn't know anything here and you made it you did it. It would be by myself I think about I thought to myself I give you the railroad because I might have time to do everything. I wanted to weaken the gods I want anywhere, but after you shave the baby I say no. I can't think of the goodness. I was so happy to have that get the baby because you really were no call or should I pay you the school and then I want a lack of education and she kisses.

32:43 I wanted you enjoying school today because I see a lot of you and Nicoletta and she's so lucky because I didn't know my grandmother.

33:01 I didn't know anybody in but you're so lucky. They're so lucky to have you for my family, or she came to stay calm because we have it Bobby my brother had Down syndrome mouth and she's getting so big. She's going to stay home.

33:25 No, because I didn't have anybody to kill me for to the baby's day.

33:30 And I know how much you will use it to buy but that's a good enough for you.

33:38 Just a little got a little help me give you a call but me and tell me, you know, it's okay. Mommy will take care of that will take care of it. And the happiest thing you ever said to me. Was that that I'm your best friend and I can't be anybody. Yes. I know you're not friends. You have friends, but you don't answer you said I was your best friend.

34:05 But you know.

34:08 I wish everybody to understand me, but if you can't

34:15 The feed you

34:18 Are you my daughter is she might think about how much you got?

34:30 And that's a baby and you have a good son-in-law. I leave it in the house and he and your son-in-law and loves you. I leave it at your house.

34:39 And I cook and I take care of the babies. You take care of little babies. Yeah. Yeah. I said he always says yeah.

34:59 But I'm happy to see him come and go with you or give me the phone. You guys are you're you love him very much. I see and you take care of him because the people you hide from the cows. I know they do for the money. I know they ain't working.

35:27 Look at me. But is that the same looks like Isaac attacking him and I watch it with you on and I what you doing now, they go to school in the city, but you know, they say you have the visitors.

35:55 Becky G. My babies. I like to stay in my best. I like how your teaching Nicoletta and Alexa speak Greek a little bit.

36:07 Elena of avalor

36:14 Yeah, you're supposed to be this big story.

36:17 Now I have another one of you cuz I give to boys today.

36:22 Not with your life. It would say get with jobs. They want to school. They do. I don't want to be married. I want to get the babies, but now I get to all since I'm me to go to tell me that I don't think of you as old man. You know, you still have you I don't think of you as well.

36:48 8587 I don't know why I say this time.

37:07 Last year when you're ready sex, you keep saying you're 87, and now you're eighty-seven you say you're 18.

37:20 What's today?

37:24 Life lettuce happy

37:28 And I appreciate that Jim.

37:31 Because you decided that he wants you to do one get home everyday.

37:40 You doing the Christmas time you had bananas when you came to do when you have bananas and meet America every day. Yes and give me the money quote of the day.

37:53 And we saved the money.

37:56 Play Kevin with education because you struck $45,000.

38:04 Except that

38:06 Oakland University

38:09 Oakland University is in Muskogee on the bus.

38:15 Let me see a pass on the bus status for here, or to go to college.

38:30 If you want a minute and ready to go to the school or yes.

38:55 And Westbrook. I just want to say thank you Mom for everything and thank you for talking today.

39:04 Please show me for the week with my responsibility to take care of you. But goodnight do everything I can for you guys?

39:21 I'm very with Marvin and I love it every one for you.

39:28 And I'm happy that way you have your love me to Johnny Boy.

39:34 Anybody watching, you know like to be mad at me because you and I find out if I can have a sweet baby with the place. You didn't have any you didn't have I don't know. I know I know my name.

39:57 But that should be used to beat me and Friday.

40:05 Do we watch fast for you guys?

40:10 That is just happy that way if you replace he probably happy everyday.

40:19 Special to see you.

40:22 It was a good girl, but I love you, too you Maddie? Okay, okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Really nice.

40:36 Little Lambo but that's okay.