McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook
McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook

McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook

Recorded December 1, 2024 33:45 minutes
McKinley Phipps and Vernon Cook
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Description

McKinley Phipps (47) speaks with his friend Vernon Cook (53) about his experience in the criminal justice system, his time in prison, and his life and entrepreneurial endeavors after being released. They also grapple with the concept of “freedom” post-incarceration.

Subject Log / Time Code

:42
McKinley Phipps (MP) asks Vernon Cook (VC) about his first awareness of the criminal justice system.
3:20
VC recounts his personal experience with the criminal justice system and how his perception changed.
6:59
They discuss power dynamics in the court system and VC recounts how his family found out he was arrested.
11:09
MP asks VC what it was like for him in jail.
15:16
VC thinks about his conviction and the corruption involved.
18:51
VC describes being released from prison.
21:44
MP asks VC about opening his own store after being released.
25:58
VC reflects on some of his happiest moments after being released.
28:00
MP asks VC if he feels “free,” what motivates him, and other deeper introspective questions.

Participants

  • McKinley Phipps
  • Vernon Cook

Recording Locations

NOMA Sydney and Walda Besthoff Sculpture Garden

Venue / Recording Kit

Partnership

Partnership Type

Outreach

Initiatives