Mia [No Name Given] and Alex [No Name Given]

[00:02] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: My name is Mia. I am 32 years old. Today's date is October 18, 2023. We are in florissant, Missouri. My interview partner is Alex. And Alex is my husband.

[00:20] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: My name is Alex. I am 35. Today's date is October 18, 2023. We are at Florissant in Missouri. My interview partner is Mia, and she is my wife.

[00:37] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Do you want to ask me the first question?

[00:39] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Sure. Can you describe the moment when you saw your child for the first time, when you saw Micah for the first time?

[00:49] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, you might want to pass that tissue box. Well, the first conscious time that I saw him was when he was in the NICU and he was in his incubator. And I remember the nurses telling me to not get too stressed out because he's going to have a lot of wires and the face mask, you know, the oxygen and all that. But I remember when I finally saw him, it was almost like a state of disbelief, because it was this feeling of, you've been in here for seven and a half, eight months, and now you're here, and I'm looking at you, and you're an actual person. And it didn't really click that I was a parent until we brought him home from the hospital. It still really hasn't clicked for me yet. But how about you? How did you feel the first time?

[02:01] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I think I was more like when I first saw him, I think it was definitely more like I was in awe.

[02:11] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: When he was removed? Yes.

[02:14] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: When he was removed. Exactly. I guess it. Up to that point, I guess it really didn't feel. I don't know, hard to describe. But I guess it all came to go ahead at that point, and. Yeah, just when he started to cry. Yeah, that was definitely a feeling of pride.

[02:45] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[02:46] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[02:47] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: I remember you kept asking me if you wanted, or know if you wanted me to describe what everything looks like down there. And I was like, no, no, I'm okay. Don't. Don't do that. Yeah.

[03:06] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: What have you learned about yourself from being a parent?

[03:14] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Hmm. That's a good question. What have I learned about myself? I think I have learned that I am really good at multitasking, a lot better than I thought I would ever be. But I think I've also learned that I'm very patient, which is something, again, that I never really thought I ever had. I mean, we've been together a while now, so, you know. You know that patience is not my strong suit. But. But when it comes to Micah, it. It's almost like I don't have to try, because no, no, not saying that he doesn't test it, but it's just. I just. I think it's just because I love him so much. It's easy to be patient with him and just to see his wonder on his face, especially when he's, like, sitting and reading and he's just looking at the book, and he's like, hmm, goo goo. It's so cute. It's hard not to be patient with that, you know? It's so cute. But what have you learned about yourself?

[04:49] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Definitely patience as well. I used to always say I'm a very patient person, but I know that at times I can be pretty impatient, but, yeah, when it comes to Micah, I definitely feel like I have infinite patience for him.

[05:09] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, I can see it in the way you interact with him.

[05:14] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. Like, things like him, you know, enjoying himself, you know, in the bathtub, playing with his bubbles and splashing water all over me and stuff, you know, it just. Things like that just don't bother me, you know?

[05:31] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, well. Cause you're a good dad.

[05:33] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Well, thank you. Yeah, I'm a good mom.

[05:35] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: I try.

[05:37] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, definitely that. And I guess I had more love to give than I thought.

[05:47] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: How so?

[05:48] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: It was, you know, married you, and then I thought that was as much as I can love somebody that's, you know, like, not family, you know, kind of a thing. And then, yeah, I mean, Micah's our first born, after all, so it wasn't like I had anything really to compare with, you know? But, uh. But, yeah, definitely.

[06:16] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: That's a good one. That's a good answer.

[06:22] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: All right. And when did you first find out that you'd be a parent, and how did you feel?

[06:34] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Um, I think it was what? It was late November, early December 2021. That sounds about right. Cause we told everyone at Christmas of 2021, and then Micah was born July 2022. I remember kind of being in disbelief about it, like, you know, we had tried. Well, I don't want to say so long, but it was, you know, we had to go through some things to get Micah, and it was almost like, wow. Oh, okay. Yeah, we're having another baby. Hopefully it'll work out this time. But I think I was also scared, because at that point, we still didn't really know what was going on, like, with me physically and everything else. And so I think I was. At that point, I was just really hoping and praying that we would actually be able to, you know, to see everything come to fruition at that point. And. And so I remember I looked at the test for probably like, a good few minutes, just kind of like, hmm, just like, processing. And then I remember that's when I went into the other room, because I think you were, like, playing call of duty or something.

[08:23] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Or something.

[08:23] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Or something. I don't remember.

[08:25] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: It probably was.

[08:26] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: And then I remember I showed you the test, and you just kind of had a delayed reaction. You were just like, oh, okay, wait, hold on. Let me finish this really quick. And then after you were done, you were like, oh, my God.

[08:43] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, heat of the moment, but, yeah, definitely. Cause I remember that you did go into the computer room, and you just kind of stood there. And I remember thinking, like, why? You just standing right there? And that was when I looked over and then saw you had the test out, but, you know, I had the lights off, so you had to kind of, like, hold it a certain way so I can see it. And then I remember saying, oh, cool. But, yep, after I finished my game, yeah, definitely let it all, like, yeah, let's do this. I was pretty excited.

[09:31] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Do you still, like. Were you still excited?

[09:35] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Mm hmm.

[09:36] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Or were you. Do you feel like you were more excited than scared?

[09:40] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Um, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I think, um, just because I've been around babies and children and stuff for so long, I guess what I was initially scared of when I was younger, when I used to think about having kids, was taking care of them, changing their diapers, um, things like that. But I didn't exactly have all that experience, you know, until later with my nieces and nephews. So by the time, you know, it was my turn. Yeah, it was more like I was definitely excited. I was still, you know, had some worse. Some thoughts, you know, like financial stuff, you know? But in terms of taking care of Micah, I definitely felt excitement.

[10:44] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[10:45] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[10:45] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: And now that he's here, it's just awesome. It's. It's amazing. I love being. I love being his mom. I think I'll say that, because being a parent is hard. It's hard. This is probably. No, this is the hardest thing I've ever done, but Micah makes it worth it.

[11:10] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Meow. How has being a parent changed you?

[11:23] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: How has it changed me? Um. I just look at everything differently. I mean, I look at life differently. I look at people differently. I look at myself differently. I look at our family dynamics differently. Because when you are the only person responsible for keeping this tiny human alive, and not just alive, but also trying to raise them to be a good person and. And to be successful on their own, eventually you really think about what you are bringing into their lives. And how you're influencing them as their parent. You know, I. Because I don't want us to be those parents who are like, say it. What does it say? As I do or no? Yes. Say, do what I say and not as I do. And I don't want Micah to do things, excuse me, that we wouldn't approve of, but he'll come back and say something like, oh, well, you and mom do that all the time. And I don't want that to be an excuse for him to do things that, you know, are nothing good for him, basically. But I think being a parent has changed me only in positive ways. Like, now I'm not afraid to speak up, especially if, when we're out in public, if someone is doing something that bothers me or if. Oh, no. Like, when we went to. What was that, the, oh, I'm having a brain fart. When we went to Toyman show when Michael was younger, and that lady was just, like, all, like, rubbing on his face and touching his hair, and I was like, please don't touch my baby.

[13:39] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Don't know you.

[13:42] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: And, yeah, I just. And I'm a lot quicker to help people out. Like, if I see someone who's struggling, or even if it's something as simple as seeing someone who's having a hard time getting their groceries in the car, I don't overthink it, and I don't hesitate to do it. I just do it. Like, when we went to Costco that one time, and there was a lady who had the baby in the. You know, in the carrier, and she was, like, trying to get everything in the car, and I could tell she was having a hard time because I've been there. I know. I know it's hard. And I didn't even really think about it. I was like, alex, go help that lady over.

[14:33] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yes, ma'am.

[14:34] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Well, because I have Micah, so. But, yeah, ma'am, I would say it's changed me, but only in ways for the better. Yeah.

[14:45] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[14:45] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: How about you?

[14:47] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, definitely the same. Especially. And I've already talked about patience. I've definitely gotten way more patient in pretty much all aspects of my life. Like, I. Like, I am still working on the whole being impatient while driving.

[15:14] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yes.

[15:19] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: But I used to not really give people the time and day just to, you know, kind of, like, talk to me in a way. You know, like, not in a specific way, but just, like, in general. Like, if I don't know this person, I used to not just. I just didn't really care. But now when people would come up and talk to me. I actually am more open with them, you know, talk to them and things like that. Be friends with them.

[15:57] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Mm hmm.

[15:58] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: You know, I used to have trouble making friends, I felt, because I've always had just, you know, very select few, but I think giving patience to myself definitely factored into that.

[16:17] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[16:18] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: And definitely thank Micah for that, because I didn't know I had that kind of patience.

[16:24] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[16:26] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Um. What are your dreams for Micah?

[16:48] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Hmm. I think. I think I have the same dreams. And for him, like, any parent who loves their child has to be better than we are, to do more than we did. I know that we can only do so much, but I still want him to be. I want him to be someone that is only going to bring change into the world and good into the world as well. I want him to be someone that people can depend on. I want him to be a person of strong character. Um, and I just want. And I know we talk about this all the time, but, you know, it's just. It's just important to me that we give him what we didn't get, and I think we're already doing a pretty good job of that. We, um. You know, we try not to argue in front of them, and if it is something that needs to be addressed, we talk about it. And we're still very respectful towards each other while we're doing it. And we're not afraid to show physical displays of affection in front of Micah, even when you can tell he's like, mmm.

[18:37] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: What are you guys doing?

[18:39] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Like, ew, mom, dad, stop. Um, but, yeah, you know, and I don't. I don't want him to feel like he has to be stuck here just because his family is here. I. I want him to have the courage to go out and just do whatever it is that he wants to do, but still know that he can always come back home if he needs to.

[19:13] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have to say the same. Especially giving him what we didn't get or what we felt we didn't get enough of.

[19:27] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: What do you feel like you didn't really get enough of?

[19:32] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I guess, for me, attention. You know, I remember feelings of loneliness from, like, three or four years old. You know, like, sometimes the other kids didn't want to play with me, or did you ought to do something, you know, just kind of, you know, leave me behind or just nobody being around. Just me tries to being by myself. But the little times where I did get attention from my mom or my dad, those are more prominent memories of mine, one of them being when me and my dad were playing with my fire trucks. I was probably five or six, maybe seven at the latest, but, yeah, I do remember that pretty vividly. So whatever Micah chooses to do, I just want him to know that he has my support.

[20:50] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. Yeah.

[20:53] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: You know, like, I'm there for him. I am watching. Yeah. Did you always know you wanted to be a parent?

[21:06] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: No. Next question. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. No. Mm mm. Not at all. I mean, we were very. How long were we married? Seven. Seven years?

[21:27] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yes.

[21:27] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Seven.

[21:28] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I say yes. Six or seven.

[21:30] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Six or seven years. I hate to say it, but I honestly think that. Excuse me. If it wasn't for Tommy passing away, I think we probably wouldn't have. Is that bad?

[21:49] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: No, I'm not being agreement.

[21:55] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Because I remember before that happened, we were. We were. I feel like we were going back and forth on it a little bit, but we were. It was always something. It was always something like, well, I want to buy a house first, or I want to travel more first. But I think when everything happened.

[22:23] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: It.

[22:23] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Just kind of put a lot of things in perspective, and I think it was right there at the hospital, you know, when we were just kind of waiting, that we decided, yeah, let's have a kid Yeah. I remember your family was all excited and stuff.

[22:41] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, yeah, of course they were. They've been. Especially my mom. She's been saying how much she wants to see my child since I was in high school and single.

[22:56] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Well, I mean, for a long time, we were. You know, we were married for a while before we decided to have kids.

[23:03] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: And so she may have just given up hope.

[23:05] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, I think she did at some point. Cause I remember she stopped asking.

[23:10] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, that must be it.

[23:11] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. Meanwhile, my family. Oh, my God, they were. Yeah. Yeah, they were ready. I'll just say that. But they're. But they're great now. You know, they. They. Honestly, I feel like that's another thing. If it wasn't for all of the family support we have, we probably wouldn't have gone through with it.

[23:35] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. Yeah. We definitely had a lot of support.

[23:40] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: In the beginning, and we still do.

[23:42] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, we still do.

[23:43] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[23:48] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. For me, yeah. I definitely used to not want to have kids. I used to be pretty adamant about it.

[23:59] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, you were.

[24:01] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I was like, absolutely not. You know, I was like, I'm the youngest boy of my parents children. You know, older brothers, sisters have sons. They can carry on the family name. Not my problem. So just wanted to focus on me and just enjoying whatever life has to offer. But, um. But I will admit that I've always had kind of, like, a sense of, you know, or like, that feeling of wanting to pass on something.

[24:41] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[24:42] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: You know, that's all that's, I would think, has always been there.

[24:48] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Mm hmm.

[24:49] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: But. And that could have been anything from, like, you know, even, like, a piece of artwork I could have done, but it's Micah. Yeah.

[25:03] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: I will admit, though, sometimes I do get sad that he's gonna be an only child, because both of us grew up with siblings, and I know that having siblings doesn't always mean that your siblings will grow up to be your best friends, but I still just feel like I don't want to leave him alone when we're gone, which is part of the reason why we're doing this is so, you know, when Mike is older and, you know, and. And our time has come, and if he needs something to remember us by, he'll always have this, and this is something that he can keep with him and hopefully show, you know, his children if he decides to have them, and, you know, they can see how it. How it all started. And I hope that he'll look. He'll listen to this and just know how much. How much we love him and just how happy we are to be to be his parents.

[26:23] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Definitely. I have to say, one of my favorite things waking up each morning is, well, I don't wake up anymore. I get woken up. So I have to say the favorite things about being woken up each and every morning is definitely seeing Micah's. Micah's face, you know, his. His eyes, especially.

[26:56] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[26:57] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: You know, like, so big. You know, like, you know, almost like, in a way of, like, oh, you're awake. Like, it surprised him. And, you know, after he was pushing me and stuff, and then, you know, I'll say, oh, hey, mijo. Good morning. And then after about 3 seconds, he starts signing for milk.

[27:17] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yep.

[27:23] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: When I was younger, he used to, you know, touching my face and stuff so softly with, you know, gentle hands, but, you know, that was also, you know, very, you know, one of my favorite memories of being woken up in the morning, but now it's. It's the same, but now it's just. It's got that comedic factor to it.

[27:43] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[27:44] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: First, you know, he'd look so surprised that, you know, I got woken up and then give me some milk.

[27:51] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yep. Yep. It's. It's. When I. Now when I also get woken up, I think he's either already in the process of playing with his toys in the other room, or he's actively doing something to make me just snap up and already just ready to be like, don't touch that. And then, yes. He's also like, okay, mom, you're up now. Come on, let's go downstairs. I want the blue cup, not the gray cup. So, what would you say is your favorite thing to do with Micah?

[28:38] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Definitely love playing with that little boy.

[28:41] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[28:41] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Mm hmm. He knows how to have a good time, you know, like, he likes, I think, also just, like, watching, try to figure things out.

[28:57] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[28:57] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: How the toy is supposed to work. Like, when I got him that truck, that dump truck toy. Oh, where you put the ball on the top and comes out into, like, the bed part area. And I remember at first he would get excited by just putting the ball in the hole, but he wasn't, like, pushing it down in there yet. And I remember the first time that he pushed it down, it popped up and made a noise, and he was like, oh, you know, clapping and stuff. I was like, you did it. You did it. And then he would scamper away, grab the ball, do it again kind of a thing, and then start clapping. Again and stuff. Oh, man, he's so cute.

[29:43] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: I miss him already.

[29:45] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: And then doing the whole lifting him. Lifting him up, and then drop with him, you know, real quick.

[29:52] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[29:54] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Or, like, have him fly around the house kind of thing. Yeah, he loves that.

[29:59] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[29:59] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Really loves that.

[30:00] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Actually, you know, I honestly just love to watch him, because he just. It's like whenever I watch him just beef himself, it's like I'm just in awe of everything that he is and everything that he is doing and just how he got here to this point to where, you know, it's just. It came to a point where. Or it comes from a point where we didn't even know if we wanted to have children or nothing. To having children and having to. Or, you know, getting pregnant and having to go through miscarriages and surgeries and Micah and the NICU to now we have this perfectly happy, healthy, one and a half year old who is just running around the house throwing attitude.

[31:07] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I knew the moment that he didn't crawl like all the other babies crawled. We're gonna have a handful with him.

[31:12] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: When he gets older. He doesn't let that stop him, either. Nope, he really doesn't. He. I mean, I know he's still trying to figure out how to stand up on his own, but he's still very much. He's very much. He's like us to the point where he is very adamant about, I like what I like and I don't like what I don't like. And he will let you know which one he's talking about. Like I was saying earlier today, I love the way he says eat. Like eat.

[31:50] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Really pronounces as t. I know.

[31:52] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: I know. Or like. Or remember when. When he was younger how he used to say book? He wouldn't say, like the book. He would just say, but now he says book, and he'll even say moon for good night moon. And I told you about how he was actually reading goodnight moon, right?

[32:13] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, yeah, yeah. Yep. I still remember when he pulled off the Jimmy Fallon's mama book off the shelf and just looked at it and he goes, mama?

[32:23] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, yeah. Uh huh. And it's like, I don't. Cause, you know, of course, every parent thinks their child is a genius, but I really do feel like he. Well. Cause we read goodnight moon every night to the point where even we know it by heart, so why wouldn't he know it by heart?

[32:42] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: True.

[32:43] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: You know, he was. I remember I was just kind of. I think I was. No, I was putting up laundry, and I was still kind of keeping an ear out for him. And I just hear him going on and on in his room, and I'm like, what is he doing? And I look at. And I look at him. I look in there and he has good night moon. And he's going through the pages, and he's like, house, you know, mouse, mush, shush. And I'm just like, oh, my gosh. Like, I still get goosebumps when I think about it. Like, he's one and a half. Like, who? One and a half does that.

[33:25] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: I don't even think one and a half. Gone through all the abcs with him yet. I. I don't think we've gone through all the abcs with him yet. Have we?

[33:32] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: No, I don't think so. But he does know how to count.

[33:36] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[33:37] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: To like, five.

[33:38] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[33:39] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Thank you, Miss Rachel. Shout out.

[33:41] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. For actually counting. Because I count the buttons I have to fasten on his onesies when I change them. And sometimes there's four instead of three and a. Actually, yeah. It was this morning. He thought that there was a fourth one, and so after I said three, he goes, four.

[34:05] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Oh, I just love this three, not four. I can't wait to go get him after we're done here. I think. I guess just to kind of summarize it all, I think the reason why he thrives is because we genuinely love spending time with him.

[34:32] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[34:33] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. We love to interact with him. We love spending time with him. It's never a chore to interact with him or to take care of him, because even on those days, like yesterday, when I'm just so exhausted and I don't have anything in me, all I can do is just lay on the floor while he plays. All he has to do is just hand me a toy or hand me a book and say, mama do, and it's just like I just drank five red bulls.

[35:10] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Well, let's go do it.

[35:14] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah. Yeah. I love it when we spend time together as a family, too. It fills my heart in a way that I don't have words for.

[35:25] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[35:25] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah.

[35:26] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: That family quality time.

[35:29] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, yeah.

[35:32] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Yeah, yeah. Definitely, yeah. Definitely have to say that I'm very, very glad Micah's here. Proud to be his dad. And just like to thank Micah himself just for being Micah.

[35:55] MIA [NO NAME GIVEN]: Thank you, son. We love you.

[35:57] ALEX [NO NAME GIVEN]: Love you, baby. Boyd.