Mona Haleem and Noor Haleem

00:00 My name is Mona, haleem 44 years old, Thursday, July 8th. 2021, Rochester, New York. I'm here with my mother. Normally, my name is Nona. Mean, I am 66 and Thursday, July 18th 2021 in Rochester, New York, and I'm talking with my daughter Mona.

00:31 Okay. So first of all, thank you very much for doing this with me. And I'm very excited. I think we already have all these conversations. I think we'd look pretty good job, but I'm okay. And what your father works for the labor department. Pakistan have come to America and like the Swiss cheese and I just found out there during his trip to America. He actually came to Rochester.

01:26 He began to charge faster because of Kodak being delivered, being in labor department. So he has to see how good it was working. He told me one, very interesting thing was that.

01:43 When the flu are from New York City to Rochester is fall.

01:50 And he said, that's the beautiful beautiful song I've ever seen and if everybody wants to see the fall is like, you have to go to me. That's so. So 1959 RS, 10 years old. So we camera right here. That was for my grandmother, but I never put it together, that he got it from his trip here. I just thought he had gotten the camera at some point. So there's always like to share. So I want you to share it again with me about when he told me about his experience in America, and you couldn't believe what he was telling you.

02:50 Oh, you came back so you can hear yourself.

02:54 He told us about those Farm.

02:59 Tables in front of the Farms where people sell their goods and

03:06 He was fascinated by that. There was nobody there and people who pick up whatever they needed, and they put the money in the box. So when he told us a family member sitting there.

03:25 It is true. Nobody else picks it up, and nobody looks at her. Nobody takes it away and you just, you know, what can be done. So the story goes and ends up and 1976 that came here from New York City to Rochester.

03:52 On the baby. I saw this phone and I saw it. Still those tables. They're on their boxes, for the money and their goods. And to me, it was 1976.

04:11 And now I see that when I go on Knickerbocker Street and every the farmers have that and to me it is such a big sign of

04:22 Trust in humanity.

04:25 There are always good people around and as long as I could see these little problems on their goods and people buying things.

04:35 I will never feel like a medical advocate.

04:39 It's such a beautiful day and I drive by one of these Firearms. We don't live far away from me, and I drive by the farm. And I think, okay. So now I think it's hard to do, but somehow, you still manage to do that in your day-to-day Life Of My Life.

05:28 Humanity is not just for the few years that we are alive on this planet if the trust in humanity is

05:37 How much do that? Would you say is maybe your upbringing or how much do you think that comes from your face? Because your faith is a big part. I like they were asleep. And I think I was raised with my parents for money and won't answer family answered.

06:02 So our faith tradition is Aslam. And I think different places right now. Here. We are actually 21. So how would you say your face has maybe been steady for you? But in what ways would you say your face is evolve also being in Pakistan that are different kinds of persecutions. So when I came here and honestly, when I saw in every town, musically and small villages,

06:50 There are churches in the four corners.

07:01 And to me that looks like an eye opener. If I should a fish fry dinner, all of the people will go there and get that the other time.

07:24 Search for me and Big Mike wrote in jail.

07:32 Baby is not something that I personally know.

07:38 Faith, everybody.

07:41 And how they represented that matters.

07:46 So there's Harmony, if you accept the other person in their goodness.

07:56 And in the Islamic faith, it starts from every how many ways.

08:01 Grantchester.

08:08 Anybody who's doing it in the will of God to me?

08:14 Coming from Abraham. Abraham was called.

08:22 It's to me. Everybody is beautiful, and everybody is who they are not created them.

08:32 And it just opened my mind to so many things of the baby things up in practice as long as everybody believes.

08:41 Some people believe that nature but fine, whatever.

09:01 I'm just trying to remember divorce.

09:15 And stop saying no to other people like and do not be insurgent.

09:43 And be just so angry at that. Even if I think this song.

10:16 Oh, I did it and you know that your Fitbit.

10:32 Though, sometimes I asked but I am just

10:46 Faith, I think the

10:50 But I have the real understanding of what I have cancer.

10:55 I found out.

11:06 Atlanta United.

11:12 Then I just results.

11:18 What am I going to? Listen to cry on Little Neck?

11:22 So, I decided that.

11:28 And I am willing to face whatever you send money.

11:33 And that's all just gave me such a

11:39 Hutch piece.

11:41 And that was a time when being nice, when people say,

11:45 You live with the will of God.

11:49 First-time offender search.

11:55 Wow, absolutely. I remember when you told me to call me back. Okay, and didn't quite know how to say this, but I think in the beginning it was a pretty good thing to do all that stuff, which I think is also tied to our faith. Because I hear both you and my father, your husband.

12:55 Why would you not? I've always heard like I never even said, I don't think I ever truly considered in my head that the treatment for you would not work out. I don't think it never really answered my head as a possible reality. There Was Fear, you know what, you're going to play. I couldn't or see or imagine any.

13:40 Existence for me where you are not in the equation and that. Yes, so so scared.

13:55 Then I realized that if I don't do chemo.

14:00 Then, you know, there are people in this world who want to get the treatment even with the money, they can't get it.

14:11 And I'm here.

14:13 It is pink offer to me.

14:16 How to say, no.

14:21 And I think that would be a blessing, you.

14:33 Wipes. Write, you the things that you need and that was the only thing that I really survive and you know, but that was for you. I'm so glad you went through it. So we talked about your parents a little bit and I'm very curious because my experience so you guys came to my brothers and my grandparents, came really had the traditional quote-unquote American family.

15:26 So my time with your family has been very very limited. And I think of my four, grandparents. I spent the least amount of time with your father and then your mother would be next and your mother was very, very quiet person. Very quiet for something. I had last time you spoke of were listening to so yeah. I wish I had the opportunity to spend more time with them, but what I'm always curious about because I have spent so much time with my father's family and I probably have a lot more self awareness regarding me and them and how I relate and how I behaved, how do you see? Do you see my grandparents? Because I get to spend much time with them.

16:16 Well, I got to go see.

16:21 What of your grandfather's?

16:25 Be very much into.

16:32 Adams, paper honest.

16:37 And I see that menu.

16:43 And I see that quality in YouTube.

16:57 About the matter fact, I would say.

17:05 I see what you mean about my grandparents a lot, actually, a lot you might be surprised, but I think about him a lot even though. And there's another thing that I see.

17:45 It's helping people.

17:49 Without anybody knowing

17:52 And I'm so proud of it. Thank you.

17:56 Don't don't you off and you don't, but I'm very very

18:08 Thank you. Thank you. What I'm very, very proud of you. I'm very proud to be your kid. So I think we have a very unique relationship. We're very close, but I was very young and I think a lot of times you made me go up to, I learned so much from you.

19:05 I did not know anything about the country of so many, I mean,

19:27 And I think I made it harder on the internet because I always felt.

19:37 And I didn't want you to do.

19:39 But later, I realized how much pressure I can put in for that. I think I was very, very blessed. I see, I do think there are a lot of people, I think, first-generation immigrants who gets stuck and they don't know how to move. They're stuck between, maybe their parents culture. And I mean, I think for that, I think it was blessed. So I never went to sleep crying and she nothing like that ever happened, but I always knew we were different. So she said, who

20:29 And we would always in the back of the crackers and things with their large pack of graham crackers, but I never felt less than anybody. It was just a special program. They don't think twice about it, but I think it is in Florida now and she told me once I even now and I still read the ingredients and see if there's vegetable shortening.

21:29 Which company has always made, sure that they're there was a different cooking pot that she would come and get my really radio one friend. So I just spoke like a week, though. To my uncle, my father's brother, but he's really interesting because

22:29 You pick the conversation from very old laptop.

22:46 I'm not saying I'm disappointed. You didn't call me.

22:53 You might like so you can come to try with me and if they want to talk to you.

23:03 I've seen you do it. Could I put in here with your close friends have become? Okay, so

23:31 Next question that I have is we talked about some of the tough times that you had and how your faith was very important to you. I always find it interesting because we are on the serious side effect. You have a sister.

24:20 She used to tell me all these items, silly jokes and things like that because your grandmother are talking about these tell you stories about magic and all of that. I remember you telling me that when you guys first started, she would cover her face like that and she would watch TV behind the screen.

25:21 Okay, just like in the radio, you are the boys in the context of radio and that it's goofy, but your father had some other interests, as well as Ironside.

26:21 And it went like this.

26:38 And it was so fun. And then when he came in 19,

26:44 59, even to Disney. And he saw that tree show me and the other one was gumbo. I remember that.

27:44 He was quite a statement and there's someone who had driven, we had a chauffeur then, okay?

28:15 But then, I think I can.

28:40 Okay.

28:58 And we couldn't get any cars to fix the car. And then he hasn't called are in England parts for kid from England to the leper colony. Is your uncle by marriage and very strong-minded.

29:44 I think I was expecting.

29:56 And he happened to give me a call.

30:02 I talked to him, just listen to my voice.

30:15 The Holy Father.

30:21 I was blessed.

30:23 Be like that.

30:28 That sucks good at you and you always keep that in your head and I think probably get that far from you too. So he has passed and he has he had a tough life too. But he did his one child, who is actually your put your cousin out relatively young. So he was younger than me. But because I know what his father Meant To You by default respond to me so nice to me. That's what I'm saying. When you know that there was something very important between you and someone else.

31:28 Your number because they were.

31:34 Yeah, and then I'm so happy.

31:57 So I wonder I mean you have me and I'm part of your legacy, but I always try to figure out when I'm gone. How do I somehow managed to keep?

32:08 Keep these values or these concepts are these.

32:13 Banana when I'm not because when you're not I'm still going to be here you are Elders, so I'm not sure if you have any thoughts on that.

32:38 But at the same time, beat Xtreme 2.

32:44 And just honest,

32:50 It doesn't matter what people think of you.

32:57 That's when you can sleep peacefully at night.

33:12 And I think that's what matters the most no money. That's in the end. It's just you. And your

33:31 That's what I thought. You said. That's how I carry myself. How many people make foundations for people's parents and make all these buildings.

33:54 Okay, babe. I say a lot about the yes, I think that's very. I think that's very true.

34:05 Okay. Love you. I love you, too.

34:19 Happy.

34:21 Trying to be happy.

34:23 Strong at the same time, kind to others.

34:27 A cheap people, as you want to be treated.

34:32 And I think you could come back to show them the truth.

34:48 And even if you know, sometimes somebody steal from you.

34:57 Small price.

35:05 So I guess I'll leave it there.