Patty Hanchett and Shari Doane

[00:00] PATTY HANCHETT: You were probably watching the fever game, weren't you?

[00:04] SHARI DOANE: Actually, I forgot all about it, to be honest. Oh, no. Are we supposed to be able to see each other? Because I'm not seeing.

[00:13] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, you're not seeing me?

[00:14] SHARI DOANE: Well, I.

[00:16] PATTY HANCHETT: No, it's a half screen. I. Yeah, I've got you on one side.

[00:21] SHARI DOANE: I got questions in front of me.

[00:24] PATTY HANCHETT: We'll go further down.

[00:30] SPEAKER C: No. No. Well.

[00:35] SHARI DOANE: I don't know. Do you have questions in front of you?

[00:38] PATTY HANCHETT: I have you in front of me.

[00:40] SHARI DOANE: Okay, well, let me go ahead and ask this question. Why did you want to do this interview today?

[00:48] PATTY HANCHETT: Because it's hard to find people that will discuss things deeply.

[00:55] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[00:55] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, they're like, oh, I don't want to talk about that, you know? Why can't we talk about it? You know, religion, politics, you name it.

[01:07] SPEAKER C: Right.

[01:09] PATTY HANCHETT: There's a button down here saying having trouble. So I wonder if that. I want to see each other.

[01:18] SHARI DOANE: Click here for guidance on connecting with you.

[01:24] PATTY HANCHETT: Is your camera on?

[01:27] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, I don't think you. I don't think you could see me, right? If it wasn't.

[01:33] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, you can't see me.

[01:35] SHARI DOANE: You know what? I can't. I can see me better than I can see you. Should I be seeing me? I probably shouldn't. That's probably right.

[01:42] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, I can see myself and you. oh, now you disappeared. Hello. Are you. Oh, there you are.

[01:52] SHARI DOANE: Okay. Now do you see me? No, hang on. I was gonna ask them. I can.

[02:00] SPEAKER C: See.

[02:02] SHARI DOANE: Patty, right?

[02:04] PATTY HANCHETT: Oops. Technology.

[02:15] SHARI DOANE: Well, yeah, I just get the questions in front of me.

[02:18] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, that's so weird. Let me click on this. Having trouble. I'm gonna put partner cannot see me.

[02:40] SHARI DOANE: Yes, report.

[02:42] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay, I sent a report off. Maybe they'll fix it by the time we're done.

[02:51] SHARI DOANE: I wonder why I have the questions.

[02:55] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, I have one question underneath mine, conversation guidance. Is that what you have?

[03:01] SHARI DOANE: Yes.

[03:02] PATTY HANCHETT: And then it says, why did you want to do this interview today? So that's what you asked me.

[03:08] SHARI DOANE: So you're asking me.

[03:10] PATTY HANCHETT: I guess so.

[03:11] SHARI DOANE: Pretty much along the same lines. It's. I certainly have my feelings about what's going on in our country and the world in general, but I know that it would. It's good for me to talk to others, and it isn't. easy, maybe with people that you know better or whatever. I don't know. But I love StoryCorps, and that always gets me in my heart, so I know that's a good thing. And so this is part of that. So. But I thought, oh, this would be good for you, Shari, you know, talk to other people and.

[03:53] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[03:55] PATTY HANCHETT: So I saw in there that you like dragon boat racing.

[03:59] SPEAKER C: Yes.

[03:59] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, it's so funny, just outside of Eugene, there's a lake and they build the boats and race them.

[04:06] SHARI DOANE: Oh, wow. They build them.

[04:08] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[04:08] PATTY HANCHETT: I haven't, I haven't gone to see it, but other people have told me about it. So that's pretty cool.

[04:13] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[04:14] PATTY HANCHETT: And we're definitely fever fans.

[04:17] SPEAKER C: No.

[04:18] PATTY HANCHETT: Because, Sabrina Yanoscu went to school here. She was a duck. And we've had season tickets for probably 12 years when they maybe won seven games a year, you know?

[04:33] SPEAKER C: Right.

[04:34] PATTY HANCHETT: And then she came along and it just exploded. And then when she graduated, my wife started watching professional, and I'm like, really professional? and then we got into the whole Caitlyn Clark thing.

[04:49] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[04:50] PATTY HANCHETT: And now we're just, I mean, she's watching the fever right now on her iPad, so.

[04:57] SPEAKER C: Cool. Yeah.

[04:58] SHARI DOANE: It's pretty exciting. Very exciting for basketball, for sure. But women's sports in general, you know?

[05:05] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, yeah, they need to get what they deserve, you know, in pay. And, my God, it's like a football field out there. They, the way they get knocked around and.

[05:13] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[05:14] PATTY HANCHETT: The fouls that are so flagrant that aren't called. My goodness, it's terrible.

[05:20] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, you're right.

[05:22] PATTY HANCHETT: But you like the Pacers and.

[05:25] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, Colts. And, you know, you talk about watching games when they're not winning. We used to have, like, half court, perfect, like, seats when the first got here, and we gave them up a while ago.

[05:38] PATTY HANCHETT: I was like, no way.

[05:39] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[05:40] PATTY HANCHETT: Why?

[05:42] SHARI DOANE: Well, I don't know. We have Colts tickets, too, so it was kind of like. I mean, it's been years, so probably not one of our better decisions, but.

[05:54] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, at that time, they weren't that great, right?

[05:57] SPEAKER C: No.

[05:58] SHARI DOANE: Right, right. We got in right, you know, right when they were starting, so. Yeah, we knew somebody that knew somebody, so. Yeah, so that helped. but yeah, but now it's like, it's amazing to jump in prices, you know?

[06:13] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh my gosh.

[06:14] SHARI DOANE: Clear up in the, you know, bleeding nose section and they're like, good couple hundred bucks right there, you know?

[06:22] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow. Yeah, better to watch it on TV.

[06:24] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[06:26] PATTY HANCHETT: Of course, I don't know, do they show the home games or do they black out? Oh, they do.

[06:31] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, they're gonna do something I'm sure where they'll take it away because it's hard to watch Pacer games. Oh, I think they're just being nice right now and then something will happen, you know?

[06:42] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[06:43] SHARI DOANE: But, yeah. So you taught Junior High for 10 years. 10 years.

[06:50] SPEAKER C: Yeah. What?

[06:51] PATTY HANCHETT: Everybody has to.

[06:53] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, exactly. That's hilarious.

[06:56] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[06:56] SHARI DOANE: I thought, yeah, that. That's a good person right there. that's somebody I'd want to know that taught junior high.

[07:03] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, that was. I wanted to teach high school, and the only opening was seventh and eighth grade, and I taught language arts. And so I said, yeah, I'll do it. It's a job, you know?

[07:16] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[07:17] PATTY HANCHETT: Can't be too picky. And then 10 years.

[07:20] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[07:21] PATTY HANCHETT: But I became a teacher late in life. It's something I always wanted to do. so I got my master's degree when I was like 57. and then where I did my student teaching they hired me and I stayed there for 10 years so I taught till I was 68. nice yeah but I've had kids since then have gotten married invited me to their weddings you know I mean they might have been a handful then but you know, it's just a growing time. It's hard.

[07:57] SPEAKER C: Right.

[07:58] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, so. And I never had kids, so. And I saw that you didn't either, so. So that kind of got me.

[08:07] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[08:10] SHARI DOANE: Well, my, my, I I had a. My major was physical education, and. I kind of did some partying, maybe a little bit, of course. And so I ended up, like, just quitting, and all I needed to do was to finish my student teaching, and I had one class, and I quit like a dumbass, you know?

[08:36] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, no.

[08:37] SHARI DOANE: So, yeah. So it took me. So I started working with kids with developmental and intellectual disabilities. Oh, wide range of mental illness, you know, but. Start working in that and was like, oh, I really, really liked it, you know, and took me 20 years to go back and finally finish my undergraduate. So by then I was like 40 and started consulting right away because I had 20 years of experience, mostly direct care, you know, because I didn't have my degree. But so I started consulting. like, I finished my degree in December and started consulting January 1st. And, you know, I was poor working direct care, so I was like, woohoo, you know, so I traveled all over Indiana. I didn't care. It was like, let's go, you know, doing behavior management.

[09:32] PATTY HANCHETT: Sure, sure. Yeah, but, yeah, I didn't finish my bachelor's till I was 50.

[09:37] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[09:39] PATTY HANCHETT: And I worked crappy, crappy jobs because I didn't have a degree. you know, and I worked in offices, which I hated, and warehouses and temp work and all this stuff, you know? And then I thought, I am going to go back to school. I don't care what it takes.

[09:57] SPEAKER C: That.

[09:58] SHARI DOANE: Very good. Very.

[09:59] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[10:00] PATTY HANCHETT: Are you from Indianapolis?

[10:02] SHARI DOANE: No, I was actually born in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

[10:06] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, okay.

[10:07] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[10:07] SHARI DOANE: And then my dad would get. Promotion so we just kept going east. Okay, I lived in Illinois too and but I've been in Indiana definitely the longest since like 81 so okay, yeah so have you been Oregon the whole time?

[10:27] PATTY HANCHETT: No, I was born in Detroit and my dad was in the air force. We traveled and traveled and when I graduated from high school that was school number 14.

[10:38] SPEAKER C: Wow. Yeah.

[10:39] PATTY HANCHETT: And then I moved to Nevada to live with my brother and help take care of his kids. That's probably where I decided not to have kids. And then had a friend that lived here in Oregon and I came up to visit and I'm like, oh my God, who'd have to kill to live here? You know, this is so gorgeous. and so I moved here in 2004.

[11:07] SHARI DOANE: Okay.

[11:08] PATTY HANCHETT: 21 years.

[11:09] SHARI DOANE: Nice.

[11:10] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[11:11] SHARI DOANE: I've never been to.

[11:12] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, we've never been.

[11:14] SHARI DOANE: No, no, no, no, no. I do have some friends that dragon boat people that live in Portland.

[11:21] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, okay.

[11:22] SHARI DOANE: They invited me out a million times, and I just haven't done it, but, you know, I was gonna. Oh, so I was gonna say I lived in Nebraska. and that was like junior high and up to my sophomore year and, well, my junior year, actually. But my, then my dad got transferred, which really sucked to move to Illinois my junior year.

[11:48] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[11:49] SHARI DOANE: But anyway, in, in Nebraska, though, it was, we were right by a military base and there was all kinds of military families in our school and neighborhoods. And I must say it was the most, it was a very delightful time because there was such a wide variety of people and you guys that have traveled all over the world, you know, and just had so many life experiences and stuff. It was just a great experience. Otherwise, I would have been always the white suburbs, you know.

[12:25] PATTY HANCHETT: Sure.

[12:25] SHARI DOANE: It was just such a it was, you know, the 70s and it was just a good time and just a very diverse, you know, group of friends and people around me. So that was very.

[12:40] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[12:41] PATTY HANCHETT: I don't understand racism because of the way I was raised, you know, I mean, yeah, there was no difference. There just really wasn't in fact, it was more interesting to me.

[12:53] SPEAKER C: Right.

[12:54] PATTY HANCHETT: Eugene is very white, and that's not why I lived, moved here. But that's the way it is. And so when I go other places, I love to go on road trips. So recently I went to New Orleans because I'd never been there before, and it was so much fun. It was just people from different walks of life. And, you know, it was just great.

[13:18] SHARI DOANE: It was great.

[13:20] PATTY HANCHETT: But I guess you can get hung up on that. Whatever, like however you were raised. This is what we believe. So you should believe it, too, kind of thing, you know?

[13:32] SPEAKER C: Right.

[13:33] PATTY HANCHETT: But I've just never, never been that way.

[13:38] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[13:39] SHARI DOANE: Well, we were fortunate. My mom, her, her mom, they had a. her, my grandma's great. So my great-grandparents had a Plantation. I don't know how big it was in West Virginia, I believe. And I think then when the Civil War hit and all that, they must have gotten out of there and they moved to Montana and had a ranch there or whatever, but. never really got into any conversations about it or anything. However, my mom, I think my grandparents were prejudice, you know, and probably talked. However, I never heard anything derogatory about any race or anything out of their mouths. But I'm pretty sure my mom laid it out that it's like you're not going to be doing this or. And I dearly love my grandparents, you know, but it's like, I think she certainly not only protected us from that stuff, but taught us. I swear, it's like from being a tiny little kid, I didn't. We lived in South Dakota, so the racism was against the Native Americans, you know?

[15:05] SPEAKER C: Right.

[15:05] SHARI DOANE: And there really wasn't any. black people or anything, but. But she. The n-word which wouldn't. I wouldn't even know what that was. I just knew that it was something that you were like the worst of the worst, you know, without even knowing really much about it or anything, you know, and. But so from day one, and my brother was adopted, he. is Native American. Oh, North Dakota. Awesome. And so. But when he was adopted, he was nine when he came to live with us. And he's like three or three months younger than me. But anyway, I can remember my mom giving us a coffee table book of the color of man and it's talking about melanin in your skin. and that's what makes your color blah, blah, blah, blah, you know. But anyway, I am so thankful for that with my mom because it just was ingrained in us that people should be treated as equal and, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[16:23] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, that's great.

[16:24] SHARI DOANE: That's very true.

[16:25] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[16:27] PATTY HANCHETT: I remember when I was teaching. on Monday mornings, I'd always say, how was your weekend to the kids? And this one kid said, we went to Eugene, and there's all these people begging for money and just yell out the window, get a job. I thought, oh, here's a good time for a conversation. And they got 20 minutes of how you come to be homeless. And they just sat there with their mouth open, you know? I mean, I wasn't mean about it. I'm just like, You guys, you really need to think about what you're saying. And there's a lot of reasons why people are homeless. But again, I taught in a rural area, Republicans, and who knows what they heard at home, you know?

[17:21] SHARI DOANE: Right, right.

[17:23] PATTY HANCHETT: I can't blame them for that, but I like them to hear a different perspective.

[17:27] SPEAKER C: Mm-.

[17:29] PATTY HANCHETT: You know.

[17:30] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[17:31] SHARI DOANE: Yep.

[17:33] PATTY HANCHETT: So you're married, you said?

[17:36] SHARI DOANE: I am married, yes, to Jay. Her real name's Janice, but Jay.

[17:42] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[17:45] SHARI DOANE: It'll be like, we've been together forever, 35 years.

[17:50] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow, that's awesome.

[17:52] SHARI DOANE: On the day that Kennedy was killed, not that I'm laughing at that, but Wow. It helped me to remember like when our anniversary is. Yeah, I think we got married in 2017.

[18:09] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, we did too.

[18:10] SHARI DOANE: Oh, did you get?

[18:12] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[18:12] SHARI DOANE: I felt no desire to run out and get married.

[18:16] SPEAKER C: Right.

[18:16] SHARI DOANE: They made it legal. Like, no, like, exactly.

[18:21] SPEAKER C: Yeah. So.

[18:23] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, we have good family and friends.

[18:27] SPEAKER C: And.

[18:28] SHARI DOANE: Overall, I have not had to deal with too much negativity. Jay was in the service. She's okay. She's nine years older than I am. So she was in the Army Stateside and during Vietnam, the end, towards the end of Vietnam, but. so she dealt with some.

[18:54] SPEAKER C: You know.

[18:54] SHARI DOANE: Because you weren't supposed to be gay, right? He got hauled in and got questioned, and it was, you know, the company you keep or whatever kind of thing. But the, the, the, the bosses or the sergeants or whatever they were, you know, they were gay, but here they are hauling these guys in, you know?

[19:17] SPEAKER C: Yeah, yeah.

[19:18] PATTY HANCHETT: Just the formality.

[19:20] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[19:22] PATTY HANCHETT: So how did you meet her?

[19:24] SHARI DOANE: At work. I have continued to work with children and adults with developmental intellectual disability. So we met at an agency back in, what, 1987, I guess.

[19:38] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[19:38] SHARI DOANE: And, you know, became friends or whatever, and then that kind of. moved on, but, yeah, so we met in the same field, so.

[19:48] PATTY HANCHETT: Nice.

[19:49] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[19:50] SHARI DOANE: Yep.

[19:51] PATTY HANCHETT: So are you both retired or not?

[19:54] SHARI DOANE: She's retired, and I'm gonna go part-time next year.

[19:58] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[19:58] SHARI DOANE: I just turned 65 last week, I guess.

[20:03] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[20:04] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[20:05] SHARI DOANE: And I.

[20:08] SPEAKER C: Like.

[20:09] SHARI DOANE: Could have probably just gone, but I think I'm glad that I think I'll just do part-time and I have a case load or whatever, and so I'm able to, with the company I'm with is plug in whatever behavior consultant. So I'll hang out and still visit people, but then we can get other people going in on with whoever, you know, that'll take over. So slowly but surely.

[20:36] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[20:37] PATTY HANCHETT: It's so funny because I'm nine years older than my wife.

[20:42] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[20:45] PATTY HANCHETT: But we met online, so.

[20:47] SPEAKER C: Okay. Yeah.

[20:49] SHARI DOANE: I've never done any, you know, line online, obviously dating stuff or whatever, but.

[20:56] SPEAKER C: Yeah. So.

[20:57] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, you didn't have to.

[20:58] SHARI DOANE: You got. Yeah, you got the one.

[21:01] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[21:02] SHARI DOANE: Met in person.

[21:03] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[21:04] PATTY HANCHETT: Nice.

[21:05] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[21:06] PATTY HANCHETT: Cool. So you still can't see me?

[21:10] SHARI DOANE: No, I can't.

[21:11] PATTY HANCHETT: You just have a blank screen.

[21:13] SHARI DOANE: My fault too, but I don't know what I just, I mean, I can see like the top of your head.

[21:19] PATTY HANCHETT: But then you're, Am I not sitting right? You can move your screen up and down. Am I?

[21:29] SHARI DOANE: No, I could see more of the top of your head, but more of.

[21:33] PATTY HANCHETT: The top of your face.

[21:34] SHARI DOANE: You're not gonna fit. Oh, now I see your eyes.

[21:37] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[21:38] SHARI DOANE: I wonder.

[21:39] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, because I'm. I'm getting you just perfect.

[21:44] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[21:45] SHARI DOANE: I don't. Yeah, I got the conversation thing there. It won't go away.

[21:49] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, mine's still there, too, but it.

[21:52] SHARI DOANE: Takes up the screen. Oh, maybe I should turn my phone. There we go. Hello.

[21:57] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, okay.

[21:58] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, there we go. Okay. That'll work. I'm so used to just holding my phone regular, you know, so. Hello. Hello.

[22:09] PATTY HANCHETT: It's hard to just talk to screen.

[22:11] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, I know. Thank God I could see the top of your head, at least. See what else? military. So you're the first person I've talked to. I got a.

[22:27] PATTY HANCHETT: Me too.

[22:28] SHARI DOANE: Notice today of a young lady in North Carolina. It's a big, big disability advocate and stuff in her. She's, like, in her 30s or something, but, okay, now I know why you contacted me, you know, so.

[22:45] PATTY HANCHETT: But other than that, yeah, I. I just saw it on Facebook.

[22:49] SHARI DOANE: Okay.

[22:50] PATTY HANCHETT: There's my kitty.

[22:52] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[22:52] SHARI DOANE: Love kitties.

[22:53] PATTY HANCHETT: Part of everything. And I said, well, that sounds like a good idea to talk to other people about things.

[23:05] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[23:06] PATTY HANCHETT: What are we going to do about this current Administration?

[23:10] SHARI DOANE: I don't know. We've been going about every rally that that's been or protest or whatever, go to tomorrow at noon. And all there's a bunch of small towns in Indiana that have certainly had people showing up, you know, they're getting ready to gerrymander. I mean, we only have it's we're already gerrymandered out the wazoo, and they're going to do it again with two democratic, you know, areas or whatever.

[23:40] PATTY HANCHETT: Uh huh.

[23:40] SHARI DOANE: I think they are. Trump called them all in to meet with them or whatever. Our Governor's a real. Excuse my language. He's.

[23:50] SPEAKER C: He's.

[23:50] SHARI DOANE: He's like Trump himself, you know, it's.

[23:53] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[23:55] SHARI DOANE: Meaner, maybe. I don't know. Trump's pretty mean. The meanness.

[23:59] SPEAKER C: The.

[24:00] SHARI DOANE: The meanness of it all, you know, cruelty. Cruel. You're right.

[24:05] PATTY HANCHETT: Totally cruel, you know, wanting to take kids and send them back to Guatemala.

[24:12] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[24:12] PATTY HANCHETT: Just putting them on a plane and finally the judge stepped in. There is a honest judge somewhere and pulled them off again. But, ah, why? Why?

[24:25] SHARI DOANE: I don't know, but Stephen Miller gives me the heebie-jeebies. Oh, yeah. He is.

[24:32] PATTY HANCHETT: I'm sure his relatives were Nazis.

[24:37] SHARI DOANE: Actually, he's an immigrant, big time. His relatives can't stand him. They're like, he's wackadoodle because he's fighting exactly what we were and are. We've been immigrants the whole, you know, so now he's just.

[24:54] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, I mean, Trump's wife and Vance's wife, they're immigrants. Come on.

[24:59] SHARI DOANE: I know.

[25:00] PATTY HANCHETT: You can't pick and choose, you know? Well, yeah, you can. But, yeah, I've been to Indianapolis a couple times. My, we have a good friend that lives there.

[25:13] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[25:14] PATTY HANCHETT: And last time I was there was 21 on one of my road trips, and we went up to Chicago for a couple days, and we just had a blast.

[25:23] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[25:24] PATTY HANCHETT: But I remember her saying about the governor, she's like, oh, my God.

[25:28] SHARI DOANE: He's bad.

[25:29] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[25:30] SHARI DOANE: Well, he's the one that said, well, maybe states should have been able to vote on whether black and white people could get married. And it's like Clarence Thomas or whatever his name is. He's a weirdo on Supreme Court. Oh, yeah. There's some evilness, you know? And there seems to be this whole thing with the sex trafficking, too, and it just seems like. it is so huge and so many people involved that it is just beyond what we can probably even imagine of what's going on and been going on, you know?

[26:09] PATTY HANCHETT: And sadly, I don't even think that would make a difference.

[26:12] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[26:13] PATTY HANCHETT: Because, like you say, there's so many.

[26:16] SPEAKER C: Right.

[26:17] PATTY HANCHETT: I mean, I was raised in the Catholic Church. Come on. What a joke.

[26:23] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[26:24] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, with the priests and everything.

[26:29] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[26:31] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[26:32] SHARI DOANE: And then just women's rights, women's ability to advocate for yourself and your own body. And, I mean, it's just terrible. You know, I I feel bad because, you know, I would. I was born in 60. so 70s, I was chilling, having fun, you know, off of the 60s, you know, it's like they did all that work and then we just were enjoying until Reagan came in and a lot of things changed.

[27:02] SPEAKER C: But.

[27:04] SHARI DOANE: And I, I don't think that I truly understood the importance of that. You have to fight for democracy every day and you have to be doing things all the time. you can't just think it's going to stay, obviously.

[27:21] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, we have a lot of protests here. In fact, I was driving downtown this morning and there was people at the courthouse. Democracy's in danger, you know, and everybody was honking their horn and all that stuff, you know, so we're a big protest town.

[27:37] SHARI DOANE: Yeah. I think there's a lot of towns that are big protest towns now, too, that never, ever would have even thought about it.

[27:45] PATTY HANCHETT: Exactly.

[27:45] SHARI DOANE: Some of the towns in Indiana, it's like, holy, you know, the most redneck places, Southern Indiana, because I travel around, you know, it would always be these huge Trump, you know, his first time around, I got to the point where I was having PTSD when I'd see the American flag. I really, I don't feel as bad at this time around, but it was just, it just gave me the creeps, you know, and. Just seeing it plastered all over southern Indiana especially or out in farm land and stuff and it's like you guys that you're the ones are going after.

[28:23] PATTY HANCHETT: You know Right, right.

[28:25] SHARI DOANE: I mean the black people, you know all the black people's fault.

[28:28] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, I guess it really brought to light the low intelligence in this country and the followers the sheep. Yes, you know, it's just very sad there was someone on Facebook the other day, and she said, okay, they're starting to deport who you wanted deported, right? Isn't this what you wanted? So it's happening. So now you can get that farm labor job you've been wanting.

[28:54] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[28:56] PATTY HANCHETT: You know?

[28:57] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[28:58] PATTY HANCHETT: I'm like, you don't realize how much lettuce is going to cost people, right?

[29:03] SHARI DOANE: Oh, it's gonna be. They're predicting that we got a year. two years of food shortages, you know? I don't know. They, you know, we're in the midst of whatever. It's not like it hasn't begun. It's not like it's hasn't started. We are in at least an authoritarian government situation or. And his continued threats to. take over Democratic cities and.

[29:37] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, yeah, in DC, you know, you got the National Guard and everything. And my neighbor said, I never thought I'd see the day. Why? Why are people letting that happen? And I'm like, because they would get arrested if they. I mean, what do you mean, let it happen?

[29:52] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[29:53] PATTY HANCHETT: These are tanks. These are big.

[29:55] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[29:56] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, all the weapons and everything, they're just gonna arrest you.

[30:00] SHARI DOANE: Mm-.

[30:01] PATTY HANCHETT: I mean, they're not going to say, oh, you're right. We should leave.

[30:05] SPEAKER C: Right.

[30:06] SHARI DOANE: Well, and what, it's just impossible when the Republicans sit there and silently, you know, and, I mean, it's like, no, nobody stands up and says, wait a minute, this is insane. I think they think they're winning. You're not winning. They're coming for you, too. You know, it's like it doesn't, in fact, you guys, maybe some of the first to go, because if you start pushing now, you're really in trouble, you know? I don't.

[30:33] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, they just want to hang on to those jobs, you know, and they know he can destroy them. So, I mean, that's how important it is for them to be congressmen or senators. It's just you sell your soul to the devil, you know?

[30:47] SHARI DOANE: Right, right.

[30:49] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[30:50] SHARI DOANE: Like, new. Well, and, and. I think two lessons on this is why you don't agree with bullies, you know, this is why you don't start sidling up to bullies because once you get in It's pretty hard to get out once you're there.

[31:09] PATTY HANCHETT: It's like the mob.

[31:10] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, yeah, yeah well, and I wonder how much dirt he has on people too because that's how he works, you know, and there's a lot of dirt I'm sure on a million people and you know, pick anybody has some dirt, I suppose. But it's like, that's what I'm wondering. It's like. And they're like, oh, you know, I don't want my family to know whatever, you know? I don't know.

[31:32] SPEAKER C: Go.

[31:33] PATTY HANCHETT: Like you say, those Epstein files. God only knows what's in there.

[31:38] SHARI DOANE: Oh, I know.

[31:39] PATTY HANCHETT: Pretty sick stuff.

[31:40] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[31:41] SHARI DOANE: There's a whole bunch in there.

[31:43] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[31:43] SHARI DOANE: And it doesn't matter if that's Democrat or Republican. It has. that has nothing to do with it. It's like, who's in there, you know? Period.

[31:52] PATTY HANCHETT: Who do you want to run in 28 against this machine?

[32:00] SHARI DOANE: Well, I mean, Newsom's obviously the most vocal. I like. I really like Pritchard of Chicago. Totally different kind of style, but. I really like him and. But I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'll vote for whoever. You know what I mean? It's like that's. But we gotta have somebody with some gumption and Charisma and that, you know, you. You don't get out of this situation without Bloodshed. We're usually years, 30 years of. takeover, you know, before it gets flipped back or, you know, it's just.

[32:45] SPEAKER C: It'S.

[32:45] SHARI DOANE: So beyond what any of us know, you know, or have had to experience.

[32:50] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[32:52] PATTY HANCHETT: You know, when I was growing up, I'm like, why are my parents always talking about politics? I don't understand that, you know?

[32:58] SHARI DOANE: Yeah.

[32:59] PATTY HANCHETT: Here I am.

[33:02] SHARI DOANE: I remember my dad voted for Nixon.

[33:05] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, boy.

[33:06] SHARI DOANE: I remember my mom giving him a hard time about that one.

[33:08] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah.

[33:09] SHARI DOANE: It's like, way to go, Dad.

[33:11] PATTY HANCHETT: Talk about a terrible person. Wow.

[33:14] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[33:14] PATTY HANCHETT: He was awful.

[33:16] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[33:17] PATTY HANCHETT: Very racist and.

[33:19] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[33:24] PATTY HANCHETT: So are you on Facebook or anything?

[33:27] SHARI DOANE: Yep. I am.

[33:29] PATTY HANCHETT: Me too.

[33:30] SHARI DOANE: And threads. I do threads, too.

[33:33] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, yeah, I do that.

[33:34] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, I like that one. Gets me off Facebook more, you know, sometimes like, scroll, scroll, scroll.

[33:42] PATTY HANCHETT: I know.

[33:43] SHARI DOANE: Shari, this isn't healthy.

[33:45] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[33:48] PATTY HANCHETT: So you've had a nice long weekend.

[33:51] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[33:52] SHARI DOANE: Yep. Went out for dinner tonight and. going to a little bit of a cookout tomorrow, so.

[33:59] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, nice.

[34:00] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[34:01] PATTY HANCHETT: Nice.

[34:03] SHARI DOANE: So you're good at. You enjoy Home Improvements, huh?

[34:07] PATTY HANCHETT: I do. I, in fact, I was having trouble with the lawnmower today, and I'm like, let's go on YouTube, you know, figured it out because my wife, Kathy, she says, oh, just take it for a tune-up I'm like, let me figure this out.

[34:23] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[34:24] PATTY HANCHETT: So it was who knew it was the gas cap because that vents the. Pushes the gas down because it would run like four minutes and then stop. And so I just got a new gas cap. It was fine.

[34:36] SHARI DOANE: That did it, huh?

[34:37] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah. It's amazing what you can learn on YouTube.

[34:41] SHARI DOANE: I know. I am so not handy. I don't fix or do anything.

[34:45] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, really?

[34:46] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[34:47] SHARI DOANE: That's.

[34:48] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[34:48] PATTY HANCHETT: I love to paint and yard work. I love all that stuff.

[34:54] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, I wish I did more. Just.

[34:58] PATTY HANCHETT: You just call the guy. Yeah.

[35:00] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, pretty much.

[35:02] SPEAKER C: Better.

[35:02] SHARI DOANE: It's just safer that way. Jake's like, no, we're not going. Let's try this together. No, we're not doing that.

[35:09] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[35:09] SHARI DOANE: Okay. You're right.

[35:13] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[35:16] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, maybe it'll go out to Portland sometime.

[35:19] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[35:19] PATTY HANCHETT: And then I'll buzz up and see you or something.

[35:23] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Who?

[35:26] SHARI DOANE: Well, I don't know. Do you. So you have one friend in Indy or a couple friends or.

[35:31] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, just. Well, yeah, one. She's. She has a partner, but he's useless. I mean, he's a hoarder and it just. It just makes everyone crazy, so. But this gal has backpacked with my wife for 26 years.

[35:50] SHARI DOANE: Oh, wow.

[35:51] SPEAKER C: Cool.

[35:51] PATTY HANCHETT: Every summer they go. She just got back yesterday and they had been in the Beartooth in Wyoming.

[35:58] SHARI DOANE: Oh, wow.

[35:59] PATTY HANCHETT: So she was gone 16 days and that was about 15 days too long for me.

[36:04] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[36:05] SHARI DOANE: Oh, yeah. That's very cool, though. That's a lot.

[36:09] PATTY HANCHETT: She's in good shape.

[36:10] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[36:12] PATTY HANCHETT: Not me. No, I don't want to go backpacking. No, thank you.

[36:21] SHARI DOANE: Well, we haven't even camped for ages. It's been a long time.

[36:26] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, you gotta get out there.

[36:28] SHARI DOANE: I know. We're kind of boring, actually. Get our lives going better. Yeah.

[36:35] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[36:35] PATTY HANCHETT: Cool.

[36:37] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[36:38] SHARI DOANE: All right. Any other. Let's see. Anything else?

[36:42] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, you're a Honda. You like Honda? I drive a Honda.

[36:45] SHARI DOANE: Do you?

[36:46] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[36:46] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah.

[36:48] SHARI DOANE: I've always pretty much, once I started buying my, you know, cars or whatever, like Honda.

[36:53] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, okay.

[36:54] SHARI DOANE: My favorite is I have a 2016 Honda Accord Coupe.

[36:59] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[37:01] SHARI DOANE: And I love that car, but it has, like. 200,000 miles on it.

[37:06] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[37:06] SHARI DOANE: Because of work, you know, through the years. But I got a CRV for my retirement and, but I ended up just keeping that my little Accord or whatever, so.

[37:19] SPEAKER C: Sure.

[37:20] SHARI DOANE: But it's got some get up and go. The CRV is a little bit sluggish, you know, but I like it. I like it a lot.

[37:26] SPEAKER C: So.

[37:26] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, that's what I have a CRV. And when I go on my road trips, I just sleep in the back of the car.

[37:32] SHARI DOANE: Oh, wow.

[37:33] PATTY HANCHETT: I have an air mattress, and I go all over. I've been to the East Coast twice.

[37:40] SHARI DOANE: You know, just get in the car and go.

[37:43] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, I plan it out. I mean, yeah, go. But my first trip, I was probably gone, like, five weeks.

[37:51] SHARI DOANE: Oh, wow.

[37:52] PATTY HANCHETT: And I went back to Boston, and then I went to DC, and then I went to Graceland and. Indianapolis. Yeah, I just love it.

[38:03] SPEAKER C: I.

[38:03] PATTY HANCHETT: It's very relaxing to me.

[38:06] SHARI DOANE: That's cool.

[38:07] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:08] PATTY HANCHETT: But I always stay at a KOA Campground because I feel safe, you know, I'm not gonna just stay at ABC Campground, you know?

[38:17] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:18] PATTY HANCHETT: And it's pretty cheap, you know, it's like maybe 40 bucks a night.

[38:24] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:25] PATTY HANCHETT: In May, I went to New Orleans, and that was really fun.

[38:28] SPEAKER C: Wow.

[38:29] SHARI DOANE: So you do go by yourself?

[38:31] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:32] SHARI DOANE: Wow.

[38:32] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:34] PATTY HANCHETT: Kathy goes backpacking, and I go on my road trips.

[38:37] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Cool.

[38:38] PATTY HANCHETT: And nobody gets upset. You know, I hate when couples are like, and he won't go here. He won't go there. You know, why not let go? People go where they want to be happy.

[38:50] SHARI DOANE: Right, right.

[38:51] PATTY HANCHETT: Makes a better couple them.

[38:53] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[38:55] SHARI DOANE: Yeah, my, my dream on a Dr. Agboat team, it's for breast cancer survivors here in Indianapolis.

[39:01] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, okay.

[39:04] SHARI DOANE: And so I've been on that since 2011. And this was the first year I didn't. So, like 14 years, I paddled and this was the first year I didn't. I just was like, I'm gonna take a break. My hands, I was getting, having some issues with my hands and stuff, and so it's kind of weird, but.

[39:28] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[39:29] SHARI DOANE: So that was weird. But I've traveled. I've gotten to go to international races for them and.

[39:36] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, cool.

[39:38] SHARI DOANE: Got, went to Italy and. last one was in New Zealand, which was. Oh, my gosh.

[39:46] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[39:47] SHARI DOANE: Cool, too. But New Zealand was just a very special place. And the culture, the Maori culture, you know, is very much ingrained in everything. And they've had some politics flips, though, where their culture is in danger, you know, with whoever's in power, but.

[40:07] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[40:08] SHARI DOANE: What a great, great place. I would love to go back someday, but who knows if that'll ever happen, you know?

[40:14] SPEAKER C: But.

[40:14] PATTY HANCHETT: So did your wife go with you?

[40:16] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[40:17] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, cool.

[40:18] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[40:20] PATTY HANCHETT: Kathy always talks about New Zealand, that she wants to go hiking there.

[40:24] SHARI DOANE: Oh, yeah.

[40:24] PATTY HANCHETT: Or backpacking or whatever.

[40:26] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[40:27] PATTY HANCHETT: He hasn't done it yet.

[40:28] SPEAKER C: Yeah. Yeah.

[40:29] SHARI DOANE: You can do, like, trips where there's. You'll make a reservation for some place up in some mountain. and you hike to it, and then you can go stay there, you know, and carry on your little travels and stuff.

[40:42] SPEAKER C: It's.

[40:43] SHARI DOANE: It's beautiful.

[40:44] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, wow.

[40:45] SHARI DOANE: The whole world.

[40:47] PATTY HANCHETT: So do you have, like, carpal tunnel or something with your hands?

[40:50] SHARI DOANE: I already get. Yeah, I already went through that. So this was ultimately kind of trigger figures. Trigger finger stuff, but it was like my whole hand was. freaking out, you know? So I think I got that. I got some shots and all that, and. But I think mentally, I just wanted to break, too, from it, you know, just because we practice three days a week, so it's like, it's pretty consuming of your life, you know? So I was thinking with the last year of full-time work, I thought, you know, I'm just gonna take a break and. work and do whatever and, you know, and then get back on it next year, you know, so.

[41:37] PATTY HANCHETT: So when are you going part time or half time?

[41:41] SHARI DOANE: January 1st is good. Well, here's the deal. So I made a list of the people I wanted to keep, you know, my faves or whatever, but I told it, totaled up their hours. It was like, sherry. You're still full time, so it's like, no, I'm gonna have to figure out something. Yeah, but these guys, you know, a lot of them I've been with for many years, you know, so one young lady I've been with since 2001, so.

[42:12] PATTY HANCHETT: Oh, wow.

[42:13] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[42:14] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[42:15] SHARI DOANE: So it's kind of a big deal. It'll be fine for all of us, but I'm kind of. plus, I'm kind of, like, picky on who's gonna gonna work with them next, you know?

[42:26] PATTY HANCHETT: Right, right.

[42:28] SPEAKER C: Yeah. So.

[42:28] PATTY HANCHETT: So are they in a facility and you go work there?

[42:32] SHARI DOANE: Well, no, we have a program called the Medicaid waiver, and that's to keep people out of institutions, and the funding is for smaller living environments. So you got, like, group home settings, which. usually is like maybe six to eight people living together. But with the Medicaid waiver, when they closed the state hospitals in our state, this program started. And so usually with the waiver funding, it's two or three people living together. So it's smaller and, you know, they can probably live their lives a little better or hopefully, you know, versus living with eight people and. trying to be able to do what the things you'd like to do or whatever, but with these cutbacks, the Medicaid cutbacks, it's. I don't know. It's going to be devastating. It will. It will be devastating, you know? I mean, and it kills you because, like, Kentucky, it's like half of the children there are on Medicaid. You know, it's all these red. States that have kept people down, you know, and, and the expansion of Medicaid that Obama did, you know, or, and Biden was really help people because, you know, you're, they're stuck. Even the people I work with, I have some of the people I work with, they work and, but they're limited. It's like, oh, don't go over X amount of hours because then you'll lose your social security. or don't, you know, so it's, there's never a get over the hump. It's always by the hump. It's either you don't work, you know, or you work and you better be careful or you'll get kicked out of service, you know, so it's, it's just not set up to help people win, you know, or exactly do better. And so, but it's, it will be. death making, there will be people that will be kicked off that and they're already trying to kick some of our folks off and they're probably more of the safer people because of having disabilities, you know, from childhood. But there's people out, you know, homeless people and all kinds of people that, oh, they're gonna kick us off in five minutes.

[44:59] PATTY HANCHETT: Okay.

[45:00] SHARI DOANE: But anyway, you know, homeless people, they're going to lose those services and then what's going to happen?

[45:04] PATTY HANCHETT: Exactly.

[45:06] SHARI DOANE: You know, all that stuff, so.

[45:09] PATTY HANCHETT: Wow.

[45:10] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[45:10] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, thank God there's little angels like you.

[45:13] SHARI DOANE: Well, yeah, I don't know about that, but I don't know. It's scary, though. And senior citizens, you know, roll these people out of their nursing homes, you know? I mean, there's a huge population of people that are on Medicaid. in nursing homes, you know, if you had money, you got to use it before you get the Medicaid. So you use.

[45:34] PATTY HANCHETT: Then what happens? You have more homeless.

[45:36] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[45:37] PATTY HANCHETT: And they can't take care of themselves.

[45:39] SHARI DOANE: Families. How are they gonna take care of them? You know? So anyway, well, it was good chatting with you. Why don't we. We can chat again sometime.

[45:50] PATTY HANCHETT: Yeah, that'd be great.

[45:51] SHARI DOANE: Start making a list. so I remember who's who.

[45:58] PATTY HANCHETT: Well, I'll give you my last name. And then if you want to go on Facebook, I post every day. Usually I try to post really funny stuff to cheer people up.

[46:09] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[46:09] SHARI DOANE: Well, you might not want to be friends with me. Sometimes I'm going to battle. Not. Not mostly.

[46:15] PATTY HANCHETT: That's fine.

[46:16] SHARI DOANE: Complaining about girls.

[46:18] PATTY HANCHETT: So my last name is Hanchett.

[46:21] SHARI DOANE: Hanchett.

[46:22] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[46:22] PATTY HANCHETT: H-A-N-C-H-E-T-T. H-A-N-C-H-E-T-T. Right, Patty. And then I can friend you.

[46:33] SHARI DOANE: All right.

[46:34] PATTY HANCHETT: Talk that way. Or we can. We don't always have to go through this. We can Skype or whatever.

[46:41] SPEAKER C: Yeah.

[46:41] SHARI DOANE: All right. Okay. Well, it was good chatting with you.

[46:45] PATTY HANCHETT: You too.

[46:46] SHARI DOANE: Appreciate it. okay, you guys take care.

[46:49] PATTY HANCHETT: All right. You too.

[46:50] SHARI DOANE: Okay.

[46:55] PATTY HANCHETT: So I stopped recording. Are you sure you want to stop? Yes. Yeah, I need to do that.