Richard Eaton and Thomas White

00:03 I'm 35 years old today's dates Thursday, February 11th, 2021. I'm in Boston, Massachusetts at the victory house and recording with my buddy Tommy Tommy White.

00:31 Be going out.

00:33 Okay, my name is Tommy White 58 years old today States, February 11th. 2021. My location is Boston Mass at the victory house Richard. Eaton is my partner friends.

00:56 In the relationship is a friend and we met in the program.

01:06 What was your childhood like my childhood my childhood adopted?

01:20 I don't know how old I was.

01:25 I was adopted into an abusive adopted parents with my adopted siblings.

01:37 Wasn't I wasn't a good atmosphere. They want drinkers or violent people?

01:52 Childhood wasn't good.

01:57 Just led to a lot of things later on in my life and no alcohol for the first time.

02:10 Had my first drink at 6.

02:14 My uncle and my grandfather and grandmother adopted grandmother upstairs from my uncle was a raging alcoholic.

02:29 Used to drink Seagram's 7

02:33 One day I went upstairs to my grandfather's and seeing the Seagram 7 1/2 gallon on the washing machine and I took a sip and

02:49 That first sip

02:53 What's the answer to my my problems of my childhood stuff it just tired and everything then.

03:04 $9 painting

03:08 Nervousness and

03:13 So

03:16 That was the that was the first drink that started it all.

03:21 Where'd you grow up?

03:26 Pretty good. Pretty good City.

03:32 You know just like every other place, it's good. It's good and bad.

03:44 I went to

03:50 Until the Joyce Junior High School in Woburn graduate

04:00 Quit the 12th and I end up getting my GED. I was good, but the grades I was the burnout jock of the school.

04:19 Got along with everybody.

04:23 So we do not a follower.

04:27 Coaches

04:29 Hated me, but they love me cuz they knew I was a burnout smoke pot and stuff, but

04:39 Cuz it's kind of like Let It Go.

04:45 That was the General that was like School in thing.

04:52 I plan on going back to school to.

04:56 It's a check out different different things and I'm tired of that. It's

05:11 It's just a shitshow construction.

05:17 I like the outdoors. So I was always wanted to be a forest ranger something like that. You know, that's where I'm in my comfort zone stories of camping.

05:38 Yeah, seems like everywhere I've ever gone and camps of always head.

05:45 Wildlife in my sight raccoons deer

05:54 White Mountains black field at one time

06:03 But I may have some connection with Wildlife. It's very the absence of the kid. That was my Escape Route through all the stuff that was going on in my childhood animals in the outdoors.

06:24 Love my hike in and all the out to anything to do with the outdoors nature.

06:31 Animals all kinds of animals growing up as a kid.

06:37 I'll wild squirrels a raise this babies.

06:47 At a pet raccoon that I raised as a baby. I had to throw my friends around.

06:56 Frogs need to know the whole works 85

07:11 Do the card about six people on the first time and it was a crack and I want to take care of him. So I donated them to the Stoneham Zoo.

07:28 Jake The Snake and he got 17 ft long.

07:39 And they have his phone so I can give it over.

07:51 Be cool.

07:58 Discontinued

08:08 That wasn't pretty

08:14 Sexual abuse to my sister from another doctor. I didn't realize it till I got all up.

08:24 It does not realize what he was doing and why then I understood why she tried killing herself split arrested. She always ran away, and I'd have to be closed.

08:44 Me and her were actually planning on.

08:47 At the time when we're young and stuff, we were planning on doing something bad to them cuz that's how bad they were.

08:55 But I think God just adopted mother died of cancer and he fell at work and get killed in.

09:09 The God just did that to take him out of our Lives before we did something and we regret it for the rest of my life.

09:17 Thank you. God hate that was going to ask you a question for us kids chained to beds before school and teachers noticed it end.

09:40 The principal was going to call our parents August because really sick braids in my second grade teacher begs the principal not to call on because she said they do not call mr. White parents because they're going to kill him.

09:58 And she convinced the principal.

10:02 To not number to call

10:06 She was so she was such an awesome.

10:12 She was such an awesome lady in the she comforted me a lot.

10:19 God bless I hope she's I'd like to someday run into if you still around.

10:26 Yes.

10:29 Yeah, my childhood was good. I had a good childhood grew up in April.

10:37 I got one brother two sisters.

10:46 Yeah, it wasn't bad. We had everything we wanted.

10:53 My brother and sister the oldest to they were adopted out because my mom and my mom was Young when she had them so they got adopted.

11:08 I met them when I was 18 when they turned 18, I got to meet my brother and sister. Yeah, that's awesome. That was pretty cool.

11:34 In my

11:36 I didn't graduate just like you the 11th grade dropped out.

11:42 Get up joining the Army Reserves after 40 years.

11:57 My mom passed away in 2003. She was only 34 should a heart attack.

12:04 That was Ross never really dealt with that.

12:07 Thought I was strong enough to deal with it.

12:11 And then started using drugs 24.

12:18 Smoking weed and stuff from teenager

12:32 Yeah just went through hell.

12:35 A few years when I had my son when I got out of basic training.

12:41 My son was born in 2009 Tucker Sno 11.

12:47 My best friend really

12:57 And I got a daughter to she's 8 years old Born on Halloween a little princess.

13:09 Yahoo

13:12 Couple of steps in the psych unit

13:15 Tried to commit suicide 2007

13:19 Call my son.

13:23 I think that's just from the grease from my mother and never dealt with it.

13:27 Finally built up.

13:33 Any questions? Yes, I did.

13:47 A couple spend centralite the CSS has made for February the last year that completed that program.

13:59 And I did a couple CSS. Is that on Casa Esperanza Tewksbury? Yo yo, is this your first time I probably been in

14:15 My first beatbox was in 89

14:19 Kind of like when I started becoming a real dad Binger alcoholic everything under the sun.

14:34 No 85 when I get into doing crack introduced.

14:44 Yeah, that would be strong for like 10 years and became the doctor.

15:02 And I thank God.

15:04 Cuz I never had again till like stealing or robbing.

15:17 What do you think makes you made? You want it this time? What made you finally come in this time this last time?

15:30 Ibanez about 30 detox happy is 3 and 1/2 years once but

15:49 What seems to really get me is I can accept a lot from depression and anxiety and stuff and sometimes I get over overwhelmed. This is after the long time and then I think I could just have that one.

16:11 And I know this time is kind of like a life-or-death situation. Cuz when I was at New Hope Weymouth for the second time so that he removed my kidney and adrenal gland.

16:31 I have one kidney. That's just it's not really stable yet.

16:36 So drinking is going on a bench will probably not be a good idea. So I'm going to be 15 to 16 through this month in my daughter's 8 my lifeline to right there.

17:19 My kids are with me and my kids.

17:28 I don't know but they're not stupid. They know they know what my kids.

17:38 Mason's Ohio to my lifeline and I give them the love and affection.

17:51 That I didn't have you know, cuz I was never told once I was loved never once was a hug. I wouldn't even do that thinking about hitting my kids.

18:07 Yeah, I broke the cycle on that

18:13 And it's important to follow every day that I love them. They don't I mean in the cuz I didn't have it. I know how important it is.

18:23 You know, and I know you do too.

18:37 What do you think you're going from him?

18:40 Well, I wanted, you know, hopefully you get into my own place.

18:47 I need to find out what's going on with my health still so going to kidney doctor and everything, so they're not they just have to

19:00 Keep checking to see what it's doing is going back to work. I don't know what to do.

19:18 So

19:20 Sun is a keeps old movie. Okay, what about yourself before? I leave here obviously stole them still new to this program. I was the only been here two months.

19:39 6 month program to get another four to thank you decide.

19:45 Open my own place sign up for Section 8 that kicks in.

19:52 Find something before I leave in my own apartment 10 years free.

20:10 It's the way it sometimes when the system is it stop it up.

20:17 But that's the way it goes. I get a everything will fall in place and has already got clean and all of a sudden now. I'm talking to my daughter again after two years. I haven't talked to her and finally someone let me talk to you on the phone.

20:34 Just if we can build a better relationship than you would you like, you know just build a better relationship with the parent the other parent so we co-parent try sometimes they just don't

20:57 Evan Williams

21:05 I said the questions.

21:18 Family Heritage, what is your family heritage? I have no idea anything biological.

21:34 Who what why when where or how so I got this empty space inside of me? LOL you should do that cuz it's it's kind of China is not to know.

21:53 That empty space

22:00 I got to know medical history. The doctor said cuz we're here. So what am I next to do? That's good. See you at best retractable. Yeah, we are.

22:39 I have no idea. I have no idea could be a little of everything. I don't know you have any regrets in your life?

23:03 The only regret I would have

23:07 It's just

23:11 Just wishing I said I never had the disease of alcoholism. That's

23:17 Sodomy

23:25 My life is been what it is.

23:28 You know.

23:31 Live self inflicted

23:33 I never did anything bad ever hurt people.

23:41 Let's see. Was it a fight or something?

23:51 Do what everybody all is well respected even the police.

24:05 And I do not vaccine some of them some of them people in the same field in a program.

24:18 Ya No Regrets, then this really isn't

24:24 How would you like to be remembered?

24:27 I would like to be remembered as me and like, you know, not as a alcoholic drug addict.

24:39 So, you know when I pass.

24:43 I want to be in a home subwoofer Sober Sober for a long time forever. That way I'm not going to be remembered as he died of alcohol or something. You know, my kids don't deserve it. I don't deserve it.

25:02 Nobody disaster

25:07 I want to be home and just never went over you. Let me call you sleep as the they call me the animal Whisperer, so.

25:14 All the people that knew me growing up and stuff new Holly in my animals with rice crazy yet.

25:24 What do you feel most grateful for in life by Kidz give?

25:34 Them the love that I didn't have.

25:40 I'm grateful to be able to pass that on to my my kids into start a new generation, you know.

25:50 Myself, you know my jeans.

25:54 What are you dreams for your kids my dreams for them?

26:05 You know, I hope they do well and I hope you turn out to be obviously being a parent. You always got to worry what's going to happen. And so I'm just hoping that that doesn't happen.

26:31 I just hope you know that.

26:34 They succeed School.

26:37 And you know

26:40 Become a successful what they do would work right now. Can I say my Sunny play sports? So hopefully get some sports keep me busy with that does not a wrestling football. So it's good to keep him active.

27:07 You have any favorite stories about your kids?

27:13 David stories

27:16 No, just when they were.

27:21 Just when they were babies.

27:24 It's like I love told them how to talk to them.

27:41 Yeah, that's up.

27:45 Cosmic to my heart

27:57 America question no, never married

28:04 I have a quick question about the first time you went camping if you remember that.

28:16 Yeah, yeah.

28:23 And we went there. I don't know the exact name of it. But I remember when the kids do my God this kid that was camping next to us had his tent something caught on fire and it landed on the 10th and started burning this test. We have a cooler that we dragged down in the inner tube right on the river to send an inner tube drinking beer is it was fine? Yeah. I don't go with camping as much as I'd like to but I would like to go again this year take my son at least, you know, he'll love that. I'm more you times did happen. They don't really remember the first time.

29:16 It was with wasn't with my whatever you call them when I was in the Boy Scouts mountains.

29:37 But I don't really remember live it.

29:43 But I myself

29:48 Did a lot of camping with the first time?

29:56 Probably I think the first time we have actually camped out is it was a spot woman? It's been it's like a wooded area taxi. We're like two trees from in the Boy Scouts.

30:21 Yeah.

30:23 And we used to go there. They have cake parties generations of kids bodies after the party. We stayed there and we cooked up after we drank we cooked up some steaks and stuff like that.

30:45 Ellis Lake first time would like champagne that had a good good memory.

30:52 What about you? Like I said, we just went up to the Saco. I think my daughter was born yet know she wasn't.

31:07 Is me and my daughter mother and my cousin is wife went up.

31:12 Yeah, I was just a good time. It's nice to get out in nature.

31:18 I'm going to go this year try to so what are you going to do this time?

31:25 Mom just just work the program man like get some.

31:33 Just got to do all the way with what we're being told to do this time. I never took it this far then this long sober in five years. So I'm doing something right.

31:45 So I'm going to continue doing what I'm doing.

31:49 One day at a time.

31:54 Going to work at this time. Like I'm not that I have before but I always stop cuz I think I got it and it doesn't work that way for the rest of our lives.

32:17 It said not talk to talk to talk to you.

32:24 God help us know.

32:27 Keep it. Keep God in my life us to show up before it got us as funny for you is even four years after you avoid.

32:52 This was definitely an experience.

33:00 Hopefully people get to hear it.

33:04 It will.

33:06 One last question if it's there is something that you would want to tell your children many many years from now if they were to hear this many years from now, what would that be?

33:16 Many many years from now like if they were to look into this and see that he is later.

33:23 Exactly what I said.

33:33 No matter what happens in life to to know that I love them keep that close to them because that will help them in life.

33:47 And hugs and kisses

33:53 And if I could tell him something from yes or no, I tell him daddy loves both of you.

34:00 And I'm always with you no matter what you put your mind to mine till you can do and you will be what you want to be.

34:09 And I love you to the Moon and back.