Robin Reshard and Lloyd Reshard

[00:01] LLOYD RESHARD: Hello, I'm Lloyd Richard. I'm 64 years old. Today's date is Sunday, February 27, 2022. We're here in Pensacola, Florida, with my interview partner, Robin Richard, my wife.

[00:20] ROBIN RESHARD: Hi, I'm Robin Richard. I'm 56. Today is Sunday, February 27, 2022. We're in Pensacola, Florida, and my interview partner is my smart, fine husband, Lloyd Richard. I love introducing you that way.

[00:41] LLOYD RESHARD: Thank you, darling.

[00:44] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay, so we always say that we're opposite when we're talking about work or community or something like that. So that's what I want to talk to you about.

[00:58] LLOYD RESHARD: Fantastic.

[00:59] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay, so how did we meet? That's my favorite story that you tell.

[01:06] LLOYD RESHARD: I recall meeting you at a chamber formulation, or I guess the Gulf coast african american chamber wanted to form. And I think that's where we first met here in Pensacola. And, I don't know, sometime maybe in the nineties, I don't know.

[01:27] ROBIN RESHARD: So, here. Okay, but you're not from Pensacola.

[01:31] LLOYD RESHARD: No, no, I was traveling over to, I guess, some. I don't remember who invited me over. It might have been Georgia blackman or James Mitchell or somebody.

[01:44] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay, and what did you think when we met

[01:52] LLOYD RESHARD: I vaguely remember. Basically, we just had a conversation, and it was kind of an objective conversation, a mature conversation. There wasn't no jive talk or anything?

[02:09] ROBIN RESHARD: Jive talk, yes. So that was, like, in the nineties.

[02:14] LLOYD RESHARD: Orlando, probably. Late nineties, maybe. I don't remember exactly, but it probably was in the late nineties.

[02:20] ROBIN RESHARD: Yeah. Cause I think they formed sometime in the late, late nineties. So I think that was when. So I remember seeing you, and I feel like I remember just seeing you and going, who is that? And that was. Why are you laughing?

[02:41] LLOYD RESHARD: We've been talking about that. Who is he? And what is he?

[02:49] ROBIN RESHARD: So I remember, like, who is. Who is that? And then, yeah, and then I. And then, yeah, and then I think I just kind of knew your name.

[03:00] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[03:01] ROBIN RESHARD: I think that was. Yeah, that was it. And I was. I think, were we both? I think I was maybe. Was I single then?

[03:12] LLOYD RESHARD: Yes.

[03:13] ROBIN RESHARD: Yeah, I was single. I was single then.

[03:15] LLOYD RESHARD: I really didn't know, but I got assuming you were.

[03:17] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay, okay. I think I was single. I was trying to think if I was. Yeah, I think I was single then. So when did we meet again? What's your next recollection of us meeting again?

[03:32] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, I would come over to the. The chamber, networking meetings from Fort Walton or Oakaloosa county. And, you know, each time we would generally have a short conversation.

[03:50] ROBIN RESHARD: No sparks, no love at first sight. I remember inviting you to a party I had at the house.

[04:00] LLOYD RESHARD: You do?

[04:01] ROBIN RESHARD: Yes. And it was a wine and wings party. I remember that because I was doing a secret book raising for Brian and Ladonna, because Brian was working at the school district and I was doing this, people were to bring a secret a book so that we could help stock his classroom.

[04:24] LLOYD RESHARD: I'm trying to remember, was that around a time when your father may have been ill and you should have went home or something?

[04:35] ROBIN RESHARD: No.

[04:36] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[04:37] ROBIN RESHARD: No, this was. No, this was before. This was before.

[04:41] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[04:42] ROBIN RESHARD: And I invited you, and you said no.

[04:45] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay, I did.

[04:48] ROBIN RESHARD: And I remember Ladonna asking me if you were coming, and I said. He said. He said no. He couldn't make it with no explanation. But then later, you told me that you were dating somebody.

[05:01] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[05:02] ROBIN RESHARD: And that you didn't want to mix things up.

[05:04] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay, well, I don't remember all that, but yes. Okay.

[05:13] ROBIN RESHARD: So then what made you ask me out?

[05:20] LLOYD RESHARD: That's a long story. So you want to hear the details about that?

[05:26] ROBIN RESHARD: Just give the cliff notes versus.

[05:30] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, I'm trying to think so. I had broke up with my girlfriend at the time, had been divorced, and broke up with my girlfriend at the time had been probably almost a year, and I kind of decided that I wanted to remarry, and. And so I just started thinking about, you know, all the people I had met, and your name didn't actually come up.

[06:10] ROBIN RESHARD: Keep going.

[06:12] LLOYD RESHARD: And one day at work, Verna McBride asked me for your number, and that's when the light bulb came on, and I said, whoa. So that's when I call you.

[06:27] ROBIN RESHARD: So I need to send a thank you card to Verna? Is that what you're saying?

[06:30] LLOYD RESHARD: Maybe so.

[06:32] ROBIN RESHARD: I didn't know that.

[06:33] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah.

[06:34] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay, well, I remember you calling me and asking about. That's when we were doing the work with the city and the county and the community around the disparity study.

[06:47] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, I remember you.

[06:48] ROBIN RESHARD: Or the work, not even the study, but I remember you asking me to come over to.

[06:59] LLOYD RESHARD: Their first Friday networking.

[07:01] ROBIN RESHARD: No, you asked me to come to the discussion in Okaloosa county that they were having, but you weren't going to be there.

[07:11] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[07:12] ROBIN RESHARD: And so I went. It was like. It was at the convention center. It was like a half a day or a whole day or something. And I went. And I remember I was in the room, and they were talking about economic development, and I was just kind of listening. Cause you had asked if we could do the same thing that we'd done in Escambia county over in Okaloosa county.

[07:36] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. Okay.

[07:37] ROBIN RESHARD: And I remember you walked in the room and I thought, well, why is he here?

[07:42] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[07:43] ROBIN RESHARD: When you said you weren't gonna be there. And then the next thought that came to me was, why do I care why he's here?

[07:51] LLOYD RESHARD: I didn't know.

[07:53] ROBIN RESHARD: I remember that.

[07:54] LLOYD RESHARD: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I remember we went over to Fudd Parker's or something after that.

[08:00] ROBIN RESHARD: Yep. Yeah. And sat at the bar. Yeah. For, like, hours.

[08:06] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. We did.

[08:08] ROBIN RESHARD: I think we had, like, one drink of wine for, like, hours. Probably made the bartender mad.

[08:13] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. Alrighty. Alrighty.

[08:16] ROBIN RESHARD: And I don't think I've ever told you this, so on the way home, I actually called Ava and asked her, when did you know that Vernon was the one?

[08:25] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[08:27] ROBIN RESHARD: And she's like, what happened? What happened? And I told her about our conversation. I like, oh, my God, I think I just met my husband, or think I just had drinks with my husband or something like that.

[08:38] LLOYD RESHARD: Oh, I didn't know that. Well, I will tell you, Ladonna, she was trying to do the get the newspaper distributed over in Fort Walton in Okaloosa county, and we were meeting, I think, maybe at Starbucks or something and talking, and she was all suspicious of why I was, you know, trying to help her and everything. But I asked her about you, and she refused to tell me anything.

[09:09] ROBIN RESHARD: That's a good friend.

[09:12] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. Yeah.

[09:15] ROBIN RESHARD: Ladonna was good and protective. Is good and protective. All right, so. And then I remember that you asked me, and maybe I'm getting the dates, the times mixed up. So this May 1, it may have happened before, but that we went to. You asked me to meet you for lunch

[09:42] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, we did a lunch date. And so that's when I wanted to come over and take a closer look.

[09:53] ROBIN RESHARD: Like I'm at a zoo.

[10:00] LLOYD RESHARD: We had a lunch date at the fish house. And you bought your children niece and nephew on a date.

[10:12] ROBIN RESHARD: I didn't know it was a date. I remember telling you that we were doing the book distribution, so giving it to, I think we'd been in Santa Rosa county delivering the books to the teachers. And Michael and Kalara were volunteering with me because they were out of school and here in the county, and Santa Rosa was at the end, so we were giving them to the teachers over there. And I remember telling you that I was bringing my niece and nephew with me because that's the only day that I could meet.

[10:49] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. It wasn't an issue. I just thought it was kind of.

[10:54] ROBIN RESHARD: Cute, and I didn't know it was a date.

[10:58] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. All righty.

[11:01] ROBIN RESHARD: So you said. You've always said that. That's when you asked me out, and I said no.

[11:09] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, I. I guess I was trying to. Still trying to learn more about, you know. Cause I didn't know, you know, at the time, I think I didn't know if you were married. I had a boyfriend or what, you know.

[11:23] ROBIN RESHARD: So then we went to, I think our first official date that I would call our first official date was when we went over to the caverns.

[11:33] LLOYD RESHARD: Yep. I remember that.

[11:35] ROBIN RESHARD: What made you pick the caverns?

[11:38] LLOYD RESHARD: I think just. I didn't really know why I picked that, but I think a lot of people live in northwest Florida are not familiar with that particular piece of landscape on the ground. Landscape. So I thought it would be interesting, you know, to do.

[11:58] ROBIN RESHARD: I thought, is he a serial killer? Take me to some. Number one, I didn't know there were caves in Florida. And number two, I had never been to Marianna so I didn't know where this place was and what it was. And why is he wanting to take me into a cave?

[12:18] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, I remember some of those on the nature trail there. I think some of the places were kind of scary, you know, too, like, kind of dangerous. But I guess since it was open to the public, it couldn't have been too dangerous.

[12:32] ROBIN RESHARD: I think I remember liking. I know. I remember liking that you insisted on coming to pick me up, even though it was. What? At the time, we were an hour away from each other, and then we still had to drive, like, an extra hour almost. I think. I thought, wow, he's a gentleman. Or crazy.

[12:56] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. I thought it was normal.

[13:04] ROBIN RESHARD: Do you remember holding my hand on the.

[13:06] LLOYD RESHARD: When we were walking, maybe I don't remember all the intimate details, but I remember I enjoyed it.

[13:16] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay. And what'd you fix for lunch? I thought that was the other for me.

[13:20] LLOYD RESHARD: I don't even really remember that. But you said I fixed tuna salad.

[13:25] ROBIN RESHARD: You did. And I ate it. But then I thought, I wonder if it's safe to eat tuna salad after it's been sitting somewhere. I think you had it in a cooler or something, though.

[13:35] LLOYD RESHARD: Knowing me, I would have. Yeah, something.

[13:38] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay. Okay. So I think I've always wanted to ask you this question. When did you know that you liked me?

[13:52] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, you know, just from our conversations through the years, you know, already knew that. You know, and, you know, that's why when. You know, I've been kind of, you know, thinking about all the folks I had met, women I had met. And I didn't think of you initially. And I was in Verner's office one day and she asked me for your number. And that's. That's kind of like, you know, where you kind of stood out among all the people I had already thought of. Yeah.

[14:31] ROBIN RESHARD: And not because of my height.

[14:34] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, it was. It was mainly because, I don't know, I think just a conversation, you know, good conversation, you know, about real stuff as opposed to, you know, stuff that didn't matter.

[14:55] ROBIN RESHARD: When did you know you loved me?

[14:58] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, you know that. You know, like, that's a good question. But I knew, you know, that I kind of had made up my mind, you know, like when I, you know, when Verna's said your name and. And then, you know, on that date and, you know, I can't remember, was that the. Either after that date or. I think it was. I don't know, after. Before that. That you were interviewing me and asking me all these questions like you are now. We're at your. Your place that time? Yeah.

[15:41] ROBIN RESHARD: Oh, that was. Was that the day after we came back from the.

[15:47] LLOYD RESHARD: It may have been that afternoon after we. After we got.

[15:53] ROBIN RESHARD: After we got back from the cavern. Yeah, I was interviewing you.

[15:56] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, you know, you asked all these questions, you know, like you were trying to understand if I was a successful person or had goals or ambition.

[16:16] ROBIN RESHARD: Like I had a checklist or something.

[16:19] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, well, and they weren't really hard questions. But, you know, the question that you get, you know, she likes to, you know, Robin, you like to interview people, so. And I don't mind being interviewed, but, you know, like, I. You know, like, when you ask me where did I see myself five years from now or whatever, I figured I might as well get to the point. And I said, in a year, I see myself married to you, and you were solid. For the future, I didn't get any questions.

[17:10] ROBIN RESHARD: I think anybody would be. Okay, so we've been married now for. Is this going on 15 years? How many years?

[17:31] LLOYD RESHARD: Yes, 2007.

[17:33] ROBIN RESHARD: Since 2007. So this is the summer will be 15 years. July.

[17:38] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. Okay. Yeah, I guess that's right.

[17:41] ROBIN RESHARD: July. What? Always get the 13th of the 14th.

[17:43] LLOYD RESHARD: 14.

[17:44] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay.

[17:44] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah.

[17:45] ROBIN RESHARD: So we got married July 14, and.

[17:47] LLOYD RESHARD: Then we had the reception.

[17:50] ROBIN RESHARD: The reception September 13, 14th on my mother's birthday. Oh, okay. Okay. I don't know. I always get the 13th and the 14th mixed up. So what kind of quirks do each of us have that makes, like, difference? So I always joke about you being, you know, science and tech guy, and then I'm on the opposite side of the brain with art and history. So what do you think over the years has kind of, even though we think differently and, like, and we work together and work and in the community, what do you see as kind of quirky about us?

[18:47] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, we're. I think we're both good people and we care about other people, and I guess I think that's where we were kind of the same. But you like to read. I like to listen to stuff, and I don't. And you're almost anti technology, and I'm pro technology, super anti technology. And so for me, you know, I accept that and, you know, and just leverage. I try to leverage technology as much as I can to kind of, you know, move forward. Yeah.

[19:47] ROBIN RESHARD: Does it frustrate you when I don't embrace your technology like you, like, not anymore?

[19:55] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, you know, like, people are, you know, have their own personalities, and you kind of have to respect that. And so that's kind of, you know, you have to accept that. And I think the, the biggest lesson I learned, you know, you have your strengths, and I have my strengths, and I have to support your strengths, and you, you have to support my strengths, you know, and don't stop worrying about the, you know, the weaknesses or the stuff you don't like.

[20:26] ROBIN RESHARD: Oh, my God, you're such a good person.

[20:29] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, it's kind of funny, you know, you learn. I learn things in different ways. And I was listening to audiobook, and I think it had something to do with Apple technology. And I don't know if I ever told you this, but one of the reasons why, you know, in that book, it said that Apple was a successful company when Steve Jobs was running it, because he let people, you know, and I also learned this at work, too. You know, he let people focus on their strengths and supported them in that. And as opposed to trying to make them well rounded, you know, he let them do what they're good at and gave them all the resources that they need. And so I sort of took that approach with you, you know, just to. Just to support you and your strengths. Yeah.

[21:33] ROBIN RESHARD: Are you getting emotional over there?

[21:35] LLOYD RESHARD: No, just. I'm just talking. Yeah.

[21:44] ROBIN RESHARD: So we're a blended family.

[21:46] LLOYD RESHARD: Yes. I think you struggle with that quite a bit.

[21:54] ROBIN RESHARD: I don't think I struggle with it at all.

[22:02] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. I struggle with the kids and always have struggled with them, but same thing. I kind of let them live their life and support them the best I can. And I think in most cases, it has paid off, you know, with the kids, you know, even though, you know, we've we've had our differences at times, but I sometimes I think you think it's all hunky dory, you know, between me and the kids.

[22:36] ROBIN RESHARD: No, I don't. I don't. They're adults, and I don't. I know. I think, you know, my mother and father brought us up to not think of stepchildren or step brothers and sisters or half brothers and sisters. So. So I had a challenge, like, even being called a stepmother, I'd never, you know, that had been this kind of, what do you call it? Cinderella kind of evil sort of thing, you know, and I always saw stepmother. So even being a stepparent, I never, I always thought this. You treat your children how you would. You know how. Yeah. You treat them as your children. So even I remember younger than calling, like, our oldest brother or stepbrother or something and mama correcting us, and that's your brother. You know, you don't have step or half. We're all one family. And I think if any struggle, I struggle with that not feeling sometimes like I can say something and it's, you know, it's taken as sort of, like a half thing or something like that. Like, if I'm a parent, I'm a parent. There's no step in there. Like I'm to love and care for.

[23:47] LLOYD RESHARD: Gotcha.

[23:48] ROBIN RESHARD: Yeah.

[23:49] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. I remember the first time I brought Tharon over to meet you, and on the way back, we were driving in the car, and he started describing you to his sister and brother, and he said, she's like an african queen.

[24:15] ROBIN RESHARD: Not a step queen.

[24:16] LLOYD RESHARD: No. Blown away, you know? Yeah.

[24:21] ROBIN RESHARD: Well, you raised, you raise really good, good people. I like that. They're good. They're good humans. I do think it's interesting, even though we are a blended family, that we have this, that, you know, that they are. They are sort of taking on some of. Some of what I love, too, I think. I really appreciate. I really appreciate that, that I can sort of see some of their. Some influence. I don't want to say some of my influence, but I can see some of my experiences. I can see them embracing some of my experiences as, like, a family member.

[25:11] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. So kind of. And I didn't explicitly teach them, you know, the way I learned, but I learned, you know, growing up, you know, you know, kind of, you look at the good things in people and kind of filter out the bad things in people, and you kind of learn from that, you know, from their good traits. And I don't know if any of that rubbed off on them. Just to kind of, you know, to how they treat people, I don't really know, but it's just the approach you do with people in general and especially children. And I remember the run, you know, and we had got stuck up in DC in a snowstorm and, and he was talking about some challenges he had. And while he was over in Korea, I mean, something really challenging. And one of the things as children, you know, I kind of had indirectly taught him that life is an adventure. You have to treat everything as an adventure because you're not going to know how to do it, you know, and so, you know, having a proper attitude to get, get through difficult situation, just treat it like an adventure. And he said it really paid off.

[26:45] ROBIN RESHARD: I know that that's cool. I think it's neat how they are and I think I see more of that. And maybe just since, because he's moved back to the area with Lloyd Junior, how he's a, you know, it was really sort of art for him as a singer, as an opera singer. But then he, he's moved into this technology thing, too, and the storytelling piece that, I love that he's moved into that, too. So it really excites me when I see that because I can see some of that rubbing off. That's not the best way to say it, but I can see our sort of blended influence coming through him.

[27:29] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, he likes the art stuff and, yeah, so, like, yeah, we had, he and I had a tough relationship after he and his mother and I divorced and so, and I think when he was overseas in Djibouti, you know, this reserve unit had got activated and, you know, we were talking and, and I guess he had met somebody over there and they were doing ancestry and stuff. And so he started wondering about a lot of his tendencies and, you know, as far as, you know, always trying to do stuff and, you know, he was very observant as a kid, you know, just in about everything, you know. And so I think he indirectly picked up stuff he didn't realize he was picking up from, you know, like the relatives, myself and I, my uncles and stuff like that and aunties and, you know, and so, but, yeah, and so to kind of bring that home, I have, have Uncle Boog, he's 91 and he's still trying to be an entrepreneur. And my uncle Freddie's almost 90 and he's. And he's still, you know, doing stuff to make money. Yeah, it's kind of cute.

[29:03] ROBIN RESHARD: So we always joke, and I don't know how it started, but I always joke that we're going to be married, like, 51 years.

[29:12] LLOYD RESHARD: I'm not sure where that number came.

[29:14] ROBIN RESHARD: From, but every year it's 51 years. So it's. So from today, we still have 51 years to go.

[29:22] LLOYD RESHARD: All right.

[29:23] ROBIN RESHARD: And that when you turn. I forget the age now, maybe I said, when you turn 100, you can get a 70 year old. You can put me aside and get a 70 year old.

[29:35] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. I didn't tell you this yet. I had a conversation with Natalie. I think it was maybe last week or earlier this week, she had. I think last week she had got connected to her mother's side of the family, and they got this gigantic family tree that two trees connected, and it goes way back to the relatives one of the ancestors had. Trying to think, what's this? It was a ridiculous number of children. I mean, like, 64 children between two wives.

[30:24] ROBIN RESHARD: Wow.

[30:26] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. I never heard of such a thing. And they traced it all back through DNA, too.

[30:31] ROBIN RESHARD: Wow.

[30:35] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah.

[30:37] ROBIN RESHARD: So since I'm still waiting on grandchildren, you will not have to worry about that.

[30:43] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, that's. That's definitely interesting. The, you know, with the kids, you know. Gum, it's. Yeah, it's really, you know, interesting. So I don't know if we ever get any, but, you know, the, you know, Tharon you know, getting the testicular cancer and having to freeze his eggs. And Natalie, that surgery she had a year or two ago, she, you know, it could impact her ability to have kids. And Lloyd junior doesn't seem to be interested in, you know, children, having any children. But Natalie is bringing her boyfriend home, you know, in April, so things may change.

[31:35] ROBIN RESHARD: That's gonna be interesting.

[31:38] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay.

[31:40] ROBIN RESHARD: So do you have any questions for me?

[31:45] LLOYD RESHARD: So I guess I learned some things I didn't. Didn't know about, you know, when we were kind of getting together. And, you know, I appreciate you sharing that. And the, you know, and I also appreciate your. Your family, you know, and, you know. So that was, you know, that was interesting. I remember, you know, we. You know, I guess we were only dating, like, a couple of months or something before we got married, but it's like six weeks, but. So you're Michael, you know, you saying, like, Michael, Michael was. You know, everybody was trying to be protective, and I. Including your dad. And so when we finally got to meet them, finally got to meet them, they were really nice. They were kind of soft, I thought, instead of hard.

[32:52] ROBIN RESHARD: I think by then, I think everybody was excited it was getting married again. I think that was the. That I would be okay in their eyes, and I've been divorced for five years and you've been divorced for ten. So I think they were not necessarily worried, but, you know, because they wanted me to move back to Arkansas maybe.

[33:15] LLOYD RESHARD: And be around more family or I will tell you this. At your dad's funeral, when one of your childhood friends, you know, we were talking and he kind of heard about all the things you had accomplished in life, he was, like, totally shocked.

[33:35] ROBIN RESHARD: Who was that?

[33:36] LLOYD RESHARD: I don't remember who he was, but he said he couldn't believe it. He said, not her. I often wondered about what was your high school like for him to have that opinion?

[33:52] ROBIN RESHARD: I think I was a pretty good high school student, you know, valedictorian, honor society.

[33:58] LLOYD RESHARD: I didn't know that.

[33:59] ROBIN RESHARD: Basketball, all district. I don't think I was all state, all district. Basketball, governor, school, beta club.

[34:08] LLOYD RESHARD: Oh, okay.

[34:09] ROBIN RESHARD: All of that. Future business leaders of America.

[34:12] LLOYD RESHARD: How come you didn't tell me all that stuff?

[34:14] ROBIN RESHARD: How come you didn't ask?

[34:20] LLOYD RESHARD: I guess we still have a lot to learn, my dear.

[34:24] ROBIN RESHARD: That's why we have 51 years from today.

[34:29] LLOYD RESHARD: Yes.

[34:31] ROBIN RESHARD: Well, thank you for answering my easy question. What do you think I should have asked?

[34:42] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, I wouldn't expect. I thought we were just going to talk. I didn't know you were going to ask me any questions. I thought we were just going to talk about our togetherness. Yeah.

[34:53] ROBIN RESHARD: So what's the biggest lesson you've learned about our togetherness, even though we're very different?

[35:00] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, you know, in life, you have to move forward. And so it's back to that Steve Jobs and Apple story. You know, you just, you know, stop worrying about the weaknesses and support the strengths. And we actually learned that, you know, while working for the government, we focused on that, too, you know, the strengths. And it was definitely a good strategy and just try to support each other. Yeah. And so that's what makes the difference.

[35:31] ROBIN RESHARD: I think the best lesson I learned about relationships was from daddy, who would say, you can't be the judge, jury, executioner, prosecuting attorney, and defense attorney. You can't, you can't have the case all sewn up. You got to sort of leave room to, you know, to let, let other opinions and evidence and all of that in.

[35:59] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah. And kind of like, my upbringing is people have to learn for themselves. You know, you can't, you can't force them to learn, learn something. And, you know, I kind of, you know, like, became, after my mother passed away, started to focus on nutrition a lot, and I tried to influence the kids, you know, in that way. And but, you know, I'm family members, but nobody paid me any money, and so I finally had to just accept the fact you can tell somebody something, but you. You can't make them do it, you know? And so I had to be at peace with that. And I think that was a hard pill for me to swallow, but, you know, it was, you know, that's kind of the way I kind of approached things.

[36:54] ROBIN RESHARD: I think I knew I'd won you over to my side when you bought that piece of art home from the students.

[37:01] LLOYD RESHARD: Oh, well, I kind of know what you like, you know, so.

[37:06] ROBIN RESHARD: But you. I don't think you'd ever bought art before to my. For me. Yeah, I don't think you.

[37:13] LLOYD RESHARD: No, no, I don't recall bringing in it.

[37:16] ROBIN RESHARD: Yeah, I think that was. I mean, just last year, but I thought that was. I was like, oh, man, I think he's getting up. And then we went back and got the originals, which was even more fantastic. But I said, oh, he's got really a good eye.

[37:34] LLOYD RESHARD: That was like seeing the stuff you like, and when seeing it again, something, it's kind of like kind of learning a person's taste and stuff like that.

[37:51] ROBIN RESHARD: So no questions for me. You're good, you know, everything.

[37:55] LLOYD RESHARD: Well, I just feel like I got to be a little bit more inquisitive. Yeah. And I did learn from my uncles and aunts. You know, they don't volunteer any information unless, you know, occasionally they volunteer information, but if you don't ask them, they don't share, you know? And so I guess I have to practice that same thing with you.

[38:22] ROBIN RESHARD: I remember Natalie saying, I think I said something. I think we've been married maybe five or six years or so, and Natalie's saying she was upset about something, and we were having a conversation, and I said something, maybe it was about my birthday or something like that. And she said, we don't know you. And I said, well, I've tried to get to know, you know, y'all, and that road goes both ways. So I think I started seeing a bit more inquisitiveness, to use your word. Cause I remember always, like, calling them, and not always, but a lot of times, and never really getting a return call or anything. And so I just. After a while, I just kind of had to be okay with letting it go. It was frustrating.

[39:15] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah.

[39:16] ROBIN RESHARD: But I had to be okay with it.

[39:17] LLOYD RESHARD: Yeah, I know. That was definitely challenging. And I said, join the club.

[39:31] ROBIN RESHARD: Well, so maybe opposites do attract.

[39:33] LLOYD RESHARD: Yes. I had to join Facebook to keep track of them too much communication.

[39:45] ROBIN RESHARD: Well, I guess when we meet Natalie's Beau, it'll be interesting to see, you know, what if, how they think and how they think differently. I mean, it's, you know, to see Tharon and hope and how they think, how they're, you know, sort of different, too. And then to see Natalie and her beau, whose name escapes me now, but to see them, it'll be interesting to see.

[40:15] LLOYD RESHARD: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You definitely get a chance to spend some time with them. Looking forward to it.

[40:25] ROBIN RESHARD: Okay. Thank you.

[40:27] LLOYD RESHARD: Love you, sweetie.

[40:28] ROBIN RESHARD: I love you, too.