Abraham Goldbaum, Daniel Stock, and Ruth Goldbaum

Recorded August 11, 2013 Archived August 11, 2013 40:34 minutes
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Description

Abraham Goldbaum talks to his grandson, Daniel Stock, and daughter, Ruth Goldbaum, about his love of music, life as an activist and traveling with his wife, Etta. Now at 100 years of age, he continues to sing in the rock and roll chorus at his Mill Valley assisted living facility and practice activism with the Seniors for Peace

Subject Log / Time Code

Al on his bar mitzvah and the food and crowd there
Al on going to school and what he studied in college and graduate school
Al on meeting his wife, Etta, on a hike for union employees
Al sings "Black is the color of my true loves hair" and says "She was a good catch" of his wife
Al started an interracial cateen that got everyone up in arms, but the White House backed him and President Roosevelt invited him to come visit and Musical activist Pete Seeger defended him.
Al on being in a chorus, sings a bit, drums in a group, enjoys being in the assisted living home, recalls singing at demonstrations
Al talks about his communist party activities and how living Washington was better because the government crackdown on radicals was targeting New York groups.
Al's advice to others is to be involved and active in life.

Participants

  • Abraham Goldbaum
  • Daniel Stock
  • Ruth Goldbaum

Recording Locations

CJM

Venue / Recording Kit


Transcript

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00:00 Location of Heroes

00:03 San Francisco

00:07 So I'm Daniel stock. I'm 24 years old today is August 11th 2013. Where in San Francisco and I am out grandson.

00:21 And I'm Ruth gold bound and I'm 65. Today's August 11th 2013. We're in San Francisco and I'm Alice daughter.

00:31 All right, cool, surrounded by everywhere you go.

00:42 So I thought maybe we could start early on in your life. And where did you grow up at the time but now it's very elegant. What was it like growing up there?

01:03 I used to go to the moving-picture every Saturday. The raid was to 4545 to two people for $5 SQ. Say I have $2 who have three so we can get another pair. Do you remember any of the movies about the cowboy you like? The cowboy movies was Tom Mix doing something.

01:42 Huh? What else did you do?

01:47 I shot the crap. Yeah, you're a gambler. How old are you? When you start crap? Yeah. Did you make a lot of money all the time? Did you ever get caught?

02:10 I don't recall. I'm not sure why you never went to jail.

02:20 Did you make money or were you bad with your family since I was theodorable son?

02:39 Alberto's

02:41 Why what made you is so adorable?

02:50 They carry on the family name. So it was great to be a son and your father he was

03:03 Your father. Did you have anyone else living in the house?

03:09 Not that I recall. That was my mother had like a little restaurant on some people of men in particular.

03:20 Women yelling for the husbands who arrived from Europe so they stay with us for a while.

03:29 What was it like living with with all that going on in the house?

03:36 Did you ever pull any pranks On The Border's never even with the restaurant maybe restaurant in Salt to the soups?

03:54 Cuz I tasted it and said it was enough salt.

03:58 And what else I was this this was Prohibition, right?

04:08 How do I call you told me that you helped your your family make liquor. That was my father was thinking how do you do that? Yeah. I know. I turned it into wine and you guys drank the wine or sold? It was a job. How did you ever get in trouble for that or no? I got was a family business.

04:37 And did you have a bar mitzvah? Are you Legal Services? Did you like that? That was nice?

04:58 Yeah, two kinds of cake. There's a honey cake and sponge cake.

05:16 Did your mom make it or wear a lot of people there?

05:25 Do you remember do you remember what you talked about me like a man by you-know-who says a joke, but to say today. I am a man. Haha. What's the joke of the number 13 on my mind, so they had a celebration to and they were 13. Did your sisters have Bat Mitzvahs again?

06:10 Ha since I guess what does that mean? They're already my name.

06:35 And where'd you hear that joke, I don't think you did speak Yiddish a lot. Now it is. Well. We have a group. Where do you live? When is it? Happy Thursday. I think we meet and talk to you just talk about anything that comes up is my native language. Do you speak any other languages? Do you speak any other languages?

07:33 You got a master's in Spanish, right?

07:37 What else French Spanish?

07:44 And do you remember them now or I remember who is your teacher? I don't remember the name, but he was a good teacher. What was good about him College college which college?

08:18 How much is college in my neighborhood in the Bronx? How old were you when you got that degree? I guess 16 smart. You are smart. Cookie is old. What else did you study?

08:36 Well, it's a Spanish guy the Russian.

08:41 English of course

08:43 AutoZone on Lyons right and you got you almost got a PhD science, I guess.

08:57 What kind of science did you study Physics?

09:04 But mostly physics. Did you ever get to study the Einstein stuff? Did you understand it? I remember you told me that back when you started it. It was also knew that they needed to bring a professor down from another University.

09:33 Was that fun learning The Cutting Edge in science?

09:38 So, why did what happened? What did you end up doing with that degree? Nothing much.

09:50 But I had a master's degree in it.

09:54 And I used to like speaking Russian that a weed with this guy or the professor. Did you speak with anyone else? But I like the fact I let a group there ya go Leah.

10:20 What's a few words here that you aren't fluent? Did you travel with my wife? When did you meet her as she was very useful because she used to fix anything that needed fixing for the passengers. Haha. And how long were you married to her 50 years or so who's counting? 5959?

10:54 Yeah, very nice marriage couple arguing the same as what did you argue about other than enough and she had a good heart?

11:24 So I had to give more than more than 20% is very nice of her. Anyway, I remember you guys used to get the special every week from the Chinese restaurant Chinese restaurant another restaurant.

11:41 Every Monday, okay.

11:45 Do you remember what kind of food for every Monday that was a special deal and I was a lot for you guys. That was a lot of food for you guys then how long?

12:08 When did you first meet Grandma by First Wok?

12:25 Yeah, that was a group working for tennis. Maybe they were hiking and I came up and I joined them and she was in the club. Yeah, so that's where we first met. And did you go on a date with her or what happened? She liked it the song came up black eyes.

13:04 Yeah, that was a question of who knows the doors with black eyes and I was the one who do black guys. Do you remember how it goes right now so I can can you help me fill out a tractor parts of eat?

13:20 The color of my true love's hair clips or something coming to Say I Do by Clint Black is the color of my true love's hair. She love I love we could just have you staying for the rest of the time you two saying a lot, right?

14:08 I had a good catch at The Offspring. This was a beautiful children. Did you have two ladies? Haha. I was dying for a Joe, but you never came.

14:27 And then I have grandsons. How many grams is I was dying for a granddaughter. That's how many grandsons? Yeah, you got it there. Haven't been any new ones in a while. I'm waiting. I'm waiting patiently for me, but maybe you can talk to David. You have one. I have someone to introduce me.

15:00 So maybe you can tell us about your travels with that other groups organized tours, especially to the Soviet Union.

15:23 I meant I meant I meant the local officials and that kind of stuff. Did you go to any other countries of Africa South America? I went I went to Africa Ethiopia. I feel love ya. Did you do anything with Hailie, Selassie?

15:54 I was introduced to I was with a black group leader of it was a black man. And so it didn't mean to cuss to the cash out of the palace that we met Haile Selassie ate very cool being she bent down into his I guess he kissed her. She just said, I don't remember.

16:29 Ethiopia Ethiopia, yeah, she always the social one.

16:39 And maybe we can talk about anything. You want to talk about my two beautiful daughters and my grandson. I'm just getting oh, what about the war or yeah, you organized canteen. I organized from the labor unions canteen, which was open to black-and-white. I didn't erase all content with their lot of interracial canteens Lottery, but mrs. Roosevelt defended me and invited me to the White House and your rent and I went to admit her.

17:36 And I work with a labor canteen and Pete Seeger defended you to write.

17:48 Singing with Eleanor Roosevelt there. Yeah, and did you?

17:57 Ever see Pete Seeger again

18:00 I think I did. Yeah.

18:03 Cuz he is a legend in his own home. He's at his groups.

18:10 People performing

18:13 Yeah, maybe something in the peak skills and please clear. That's where he lives at 310 peeksville. Did you go to the beach Peekskill? I have tried to break up at the concert and you were there and I was what happened it up for the we have another concert. What was that? We were successful in having it.

18:55 And did you organize it or perform more?

19:01 But I know I was just a member of the cuz you play any music know I was in the cars, okay?

19:09 What about with Etta? You played some music maybe recorders color music again. What made you interested in recorders Basics music? Okay, so I think I told him I had those Children's Learning recorder.

19:29 And I still have my recorder but I don't play it. Why not? Why did you like to play the role of the base antenna what kind of music mostly full of music I guess?

19:48 No, you just made me save me the lavona. What's that pretty as the moon cool?

19:55 Klezmer klezmer music. Do you have any questions for me? What was it like to be the daughter raised in a very religious family? How did you become radicalize? How did you become? How did you why did you become an active? I was an atheist. I didn't believe it and then a supernatural God.

20:37 And how did that happen? Did you just arrive at that conclusion? I just thought it was a person was in the

20:50 But did your sisters also know that?

20:56 So what turned you into being more of a social activist coming from a very religious home radicals came from a religious family.

21:16 Well, I was interested in the progress of the working people.

21:23 Unions and stuff like that. I was a member of the teachers union.

21:29 What what did you do for the teachers union Bedford Southern trees bear strange fruits? You know, that's what she said. She did but she who wrote it Melville is something that's what they feature that song.

22:09 Bernice is soil. So in the honey, who are they?

22:17 And how did you get to know them in mine and the Bronx and members of the Union so we know each other I told the same high school that they would Clinton. Where did you live in a well then call and park? I don't know if you know, what's that New York City. Did you live in any special kind of housing? It was a progressive Coop de Pedro into a co-op or something.

23:09 And what made it Progressive nonprofit housing thing?

23:16 Who else how we going to do like this every week?

23:20 What's in a while? What kind of like seriously I ride with some of the lectures and some of my photos were exhibited. How does the photos of everything?

23:38 Did you start the first Friday Forum you want to talk about that dead? What was the first Friday Forum first floor of the Forum was the first Friday of the month. We had a forum people would suggest topics.

23:57 I know that I would go wrong typing of the notices and mailing out the notices good friend of mine. What did he talk about different topics labor history. He had a brother.

24:22 Goophone I was famous as a writer and Elektra and his son is famous right his son Eric foner.

24:35 The sound of a fart fan on a phone or brothers that were twins.

24:40 So that was a first Friday for every Friday of the month. We had a different speaker. And I remember there were concerts there to chamber music concert. Yes, there was some of the regulars receptor. I was having you thinking that you're singing it all now dad you want to talk about what rocks your boat now, do you? How's your chorus chorus? Yeah. Yeah that we play the drums the different song. What are you play?

25:40 Judaism something else that you never wanted to go into assisted living and after mom died you lived with with your two daughters and you were kind of feeling isolated and not that stimulated and then we found the Redwoods years ago. How do you feel about living in assisted living now? How do you feel? How do you feel about living in a bird with a different activities? Very presence. We have a peace group. We meet outside on the street every Friday was signed. So please so it's very nice group.

26:37 What were you doing? There's no more Wars.

26:40 LOL, inventive activities in the course of a drumming group that made once a week.

26:56 What are some of your favorite songs that you sing in there in the Rossi age is chorus will a bug people living for today. You may think it's a miracle, but I'm not the only one and I hope someday you'll join us and the world will be as one.

27:24 I'm not radical. What other kinds of music did you listen to music from the Jazz. Did you ever see anyone perform?

27:48 Jazz group, you know the name of it. I remember that you saw are you told me you saw Art Tatum? Did you see anyone else famous?

28:03 Put on Tatum is especially famous. What was that like everybody and when I told him I heard him the right name and I heard him. What was it like where you close?

28:25 I don't know where I was at the time. I saw I did I get that you have to hear him to the March on Washington the whole family. I love us every Friday. I think there was a much.

28:42 Yeah, where you are now, but we heard Martin Luther King in Washington was a joke. I heard I Have a Dream speech.

28:54 And we're you very active in in the Civil Rights Movement.

29:07 Cars the cars we sang on All Occasions the demonstration the car is saying one of those thing is to have a demonstration, Washington DC.

29:26 Big demonstration with thousands of people and we were up there on the stage singing or are you singing America?

29:40 If I had a how about you know, if I had to have it, can I sing a little over in the morning and evening? It's a hybrid trust has to have her feet. So I have no love between brother my sister and I have always had it all wrong. Peter Yarrow. He was a student of mine.

30:28 How did you know him? Which high school did you teach a child is attending. Do you have any stories about having your daughter is go to your school?

30:49 What what happened? There was a problem with one of the teachers doesn't like Laura.

30:58 But she took one of your classes also. She's a little like this and where you hard on her where you a hard teacher.

31:12 I remember you telling me that she used to listen to you sleeping hoping that you would say one of the answers for the test. Did it work? She failed the test. I was joking though. She fusses that she wanted the kids to get jobs and you are at the same school.

31:42 What?

31:47 What did you guys do in the summer besides traveling besides we went through?

32:02 Tomorrow to go to Florida and then we coming up we got that. We got stuck or something. We wind up working in a cab.

32:14 And

32:17 What else?

32:21 What other groups were you involved in you are a communist right on time? What did you do with them. Blood leaflets participate is on the picket line.

32:40 Were you ever afraid of getting caught or losing your job was going to be careful?

32:49 Did you ever have any clothes that wasn't Washington? Luckily when they're clamping down on radical? So I was in Washington and that's why I got to wait. Why is that New York the beans guy over the rainbow?

33:24 I have a friend of ours then. He said I want you to meet my friends and know your worth of Rosenberg. So what I got to do. Call them, but I never got to see yeah, but you knew their children, right?

33:43 What motor is on one of them is in touch with he runs or something like that?

33:51 So we can will you learn touch with him?

33:55 The Royal Marines that were killed as traitors

34:01 As far as so even though they were the Russians with Lorelei lies at the time. And what were you doing? Well, I was I was working for the Navy in Washington.

34:21 Have our job is to collect materials for the ships.

34:26 And you wanted to help out during the war. Right? Did you have any actually?

34:37 Oh, I didn't sign up for the uniform but they said you can stay this way roses. Did you know did you have any family members during who are in the Holocaust?

35:00 Do you know Mom?

35:02 Well, yes and also on Mom's side.

35:10 Hello, we have a great life wonderful children and grandchildren not to leave anybody out.

35:30 I have never have any great-grandchildren yet coming coming.

35:38 Totally behind you to be to be live.

35:41 Life, we're always asking you. What did you do? What do you think? You know, if you want other people to live a long life to have any Hot Tips like those yams you have every night for supper. I should be involved be involved in active and keeping the world peaceful and safe.

36:05 Play Humanity because there's a danger the world can be destroyed.

36:13 Are you worried about the world being destroyed?

36:23 Doing pretty good. You are a big fan of Obama's right? Well, I know somebody works full-time for Obama in the campaign, but you are a fan of his before I was still have your T-shirt. Were you involved in any other campaigns? And I know you're somebody chords.

37:02 Every other once a week we got together and we made calls on different people asking them to register and so are there any politicians in the future that you want to get involved with?

37:16 Not that I know of. Are you retiring from politics?

37:27 Like within the Redwoods or national politics

37:35 We have a group that meets out in the street every Friday for peace with signs and someone's what are they called? What's the name?

37:45 PC excetera

37:48 Mill Valley seniors for peace are you proud of your daughters are fine jewelers. I'm proud of myself. So you destroyed his mention a person can develop a cold is a person person of a cough.

38:26 I'll be on my I have no complaints I've had about enough of life. That's great. Wonderful philosophy wonderful children wonderful grandchild. I don't have any great-grandchildren. Head or working on it. Is there anything else you would like in your life besides Grand great-grandchildren peace in the world or work on that, too?

38:56 Anything else

38:59 Peace and Justice, please. I'm pretty satisfied with your Life's good.

39:05 Peace and justice

39:08 A Brave, New World

39:11 Are you inspired many many people in your in your life that philosophy?

39:19 Thank you and to think that it 97 you enter to assisted living facility and have made so many friends and

39:29 Very happy love you and took it every fried every Friday for peace with signs all the cars and people like it when you take it. What's the reception like

39:56 I think we're just about done every Friday we do that I have about 40 people turning up the count dogs twice to so what does that mean? Maybe maybe

40:23 Alligator so it goes

40:26 So, what is this? I think we're