Mary Meloy-Lara and Miriam Lara

Recorded December 1, 2013 Archived December 1, 2013 41:20 minutes
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Description

Miriam Lara (32) interviews her mother, Mary Meloy-Lara (69), as Mary advances in the stages of Alzheimer's disease. Mary talks about her parents, how she eventually moved to Mexico, reminisces about her children when they were younger, commemorates their accomplishments, and describes some of her happiest memories.

Subject Log / Time Code

Mary talks about Wisconsin, her parents and her brothers.
Mary talks about Miriam's father, and how she came to live in Mexico.
Mary talks about her first memories of Mexico, and why she likes living there.
Mary talks about her thought-process on how to culturally raise her children.
Mary describes her four children.
Mary talks about her hopes for her children, and for her grandchildren.
Mary and Miriam talk about Mary's early stages of Alzheimer's disease, and Mary's happiest memories with her parents.
Mary talks about her mother and her struggle with depression and eventually Alzheimer's.
Mary talks about what she is most proud of.
Mary describes her memory of teaching Miriam how to drive.
Miriam talks about what she hopes for her siblings.
Mary describes a memory of a solar eclipse, and wanting to repeat that experience.
Mary mentions she was part of the Peace Corps and was stationed in Peru.

Participants

  • Mary Meloy-Lara
  • Miriam Lara

Recording Locations

CJM

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Transcript

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00:03 My name is Miriam Cecilia Lara Miller and 32. Today is December 1st 2013 in San Francisco, California USA and Mary's daughter.

00:25 My name is Mary Elizabeth Malloy.

00:31 From Milwaukee 69 years old

00:36 And the date is December 1st 2000.

00:41 13 the location is San Francisco in the United States of America.

00:49 The person I'm interviewing is my own daughter.

00:58 An excellent

01:01 Person in excellent person who pushes her ideas until they are completed and the rest of the family.

01:13 Comes up behind us behind her to do what she wanted. She's adorable.

01:21 Is very smart.

01:25 Unannounced

01:27 Can you tell me how you feel today? Right now? I'm feeling better than I was.

01:42 Life is hard.

01:47 The reason I came was

01:51 Just say some things about life in Mexico.

01:56 My name adult and life in Milwaukee.

02:02 When I was a teenager.

02:06 Anything you'd like to ask me. I'll tell the truth.

02:12 Well, yeah, I

02:15 I want to know how your childhood was in Milwaukee with your parents and your siblings.

02:25 My siblings which I have to

02:28 Joe and Mike

02:33 They would say Mary Mary and if I don't tell them first that I am part of this story car, right laughing if I don't tell them and then they find out they'll say wow or no.

03:02 But I but I was born it was snowing.

03:08 I hadn't seen his Milwaukee snow is quite a bit during the winter and there's so many.

03:14 Fun things to do in the winter witch you for children. Don't never been to the better than tell you.

03:23 Went to visit my brother Joe.

03:28 I am.

03:31 So it's when I look back at that.

03:36 Clean air and cold air

03:41 I like it very much and my do you not receiving bad Drizzy?

03:48 For him examples to make a snowman.

03:53 What about you? What it what are you there's some things that you wish would have happened.

04:01 I don't know. I I I want to know more about grandpa and grandma and Grandma Miller favorite t o n

04:15 I don't know how many people live in lived in Benton when they were there, but not very many probably a hundred and ten or so people lived in the town.

04:28 They were all from Ireland.

04:31 It's those were all Catholics and then there were a few Protestants. I don't know where the door from they had their own church. The Catholic church was built by father. Magic Kelly. He was a

04:46 Really? Well educated Italian priest then he came to Benton Wisconsin to build the church and he did my mother.

05:04 Turn it up money to people who wanted to make a

05:11 Club to collect money so that there would be this book would be printed on this rather message. Ellie is one of my mother's charity and he had two brothers, but my father got a job.

05:38 In the cemetery

05:41 Digging up the grave and turn it to be used not big enough to be throwing away a hole in the ground.

05:54 This is before he was a doctor. Oh, yeah, he was jailed and there's a story about my uncle fat.

06:06 He

06:09 Took a shortcut through the cemetery one that evening.

06:15 And fell into the hole not filled up somebody I don't know who saw him come back up like a rocket and he went down and get back up with a rocket. That was always the family a family of true and my father on Halloween.

06:42 Tell the story that they picked he and his friends. They would there's two things they did they had they could either move the outdoor toilet.

06:56 With mules pulling it or completely destroy it and then you're stuck there with two two seats no cover. So that was what they did on Halloween. It was kind of a very bad thing to wake up. So tell me how

07:22 Are the women in Benton?

07:33 Love your father. He lived there in Mexico and

07:44 We both had finished her schooling.

07:48 And so I went to tripping Europe. I was maybe

07:57 Coldwell 15 months in Europe, then I came back and when I got back I could because he had written me such beautiful love letters.

08:12 So

08:14 We that what you used to be able to do or I was

08:22 I have your mail sent to American Express Offices. They would keep it there for years. I guess Mary Maloney or whoever.

08:35 Gringo's going to Europe did they said that they had little slots for our names. Anyway when I came back.

08:44 Two of my home to do so I called up Jorge and

08:53 They said well, I'm back. I'm back here now in the USA and I I think I'll go down to Mexico. No support Super Nintendo that he would be ecstatic that I

09:18 How did you get there? I drove I drove myself.

09:23 Milwaukee to Mexico

09:27 In my upper it was yellow color.

09:30 Yellow opal and I never gave a thought to it my parents they didn't oppose it.

09:39 And when I get down there, I found I had this.

09:44 Relatives are soon to be relished by want to tell you a story anyway, because I'm sure you remember I don't like

09:56 Parsley cilantro and I don't like cilantro. There's the first time I got to their house. I got to their house in my little yellow opal and it was lunch time. My mother-in-law was a good idea Sarah.

10:13 And rabbits eating and

10:19 I thought it was good. It was kind of guacamole with.

10:25 And I was here to get my sister.

10:28 What's it what's in this?

10:32 Tasted like it was what was in it was Sinatra and what it tasted like with soap.

10:39 And so my husband or hate your father was over on this side.

10:45 And I thought to myself or should I say it should have said that to my mother my future mother-in-law that she didn't wash her dishes. Because it still smell she didn't rinse them. She still has that it tasted like

11:05 That's out. But then later on after I complain about this and that people said it wasn't true. It does turn out that.

11:15 Gringo's, I don't know if your opinions

11:19 Have a

11:25 In time maybe another time we get the sensation of certain people get sensation of soap.

11:36 And I had people tell me that the timer clubs up in the United States anti. Yes, there is I think I'd people told me that is good about living in Mexico for you.

12:08 Well, you guys were born there. It was easy life in Mexico. There's no.

12:16 Terrible cold weather you don't have high.

12:24 Costs of fuel

12:28 Eric even swim everyday

12:32 The people are generous real generous.

12:37 And at the love and nice I really nice place to be is in Mexico. I really am thankful that I had the opportunity to do that.

12:46 I'm hoping to go back there, but I'm not sure.

12:53 Since I have no relatives there.

12:58 Other people other people of my friends

13:03 Do have relatives.

13:07 I in them again, but I. So, I'd I'm not quite sure what can happen when I get older.

13:16 Cuz I asked family members. I don't have.

13:20 When when we were born, how was it for you and hold head to make a decision about raising us whether we were going to be

13:30 Mexican or American art teacher in Spanish and then and then English. Well, of course, not that we both said what the topic is.

13:57 Is my language you're going to use probably rather we did. What did you do?

14:03 Well, one of the things was

14:05 People said

14:09 Don't switch back and forth.

14:12 But like at the dinner table, but you should because

14:18 There are people at the dinner table who?

14:23 So who you want to show respect to that they came to luncheon at your house or dinner?

14:31 And they should be able to participate in their own language. As long as we do might give you an idea like you speak Spanish very well.

14:42 If somebody comes to visit who doesn't speak Spanish very well, but we had the rest of the family of us would keep quiet while we

14:55 Turn towards the visitor and everybody speaks in their language rather than mixed.

15:03 It's a tough fight idea. But any other things besides language, I mean culturally.

15:11 We've traveled a lot a lot before you were born pretty much.

15:25 It's a beautiful place. I know you know that.

15:28 Now

15:31 Well, do you think that you are going to

15:36 Stay in.

15:39 In the southern USA area or Mexico area or are you going to leave this area and depends on whether you and Jorge are coming here?

15:56 But it also depends on.

15:59 How hard it is to purchase a home or get a job? So he talked a bit about me and tell me a bit about all of your kids.

16:19 Tell me a story or tell me a quality about each one of them. Drizza. Is it your older sister?

16:30 The first born

16:35 I really smart whip.

16:39 Of things

16:41 And she's not very funny though.

16:45 And then there's Joe.

16:53 That's my brother Omar. Is he your brother?

17:04 I remember very well. We are walking home from school get there to promote Primary School.

17:14 What up? What did you do today on there?

17:19 What do you say we learned?

17:26 That's dead that in order to have a baby you have to have

17:33 That sleep together have a safety and I don't know what they said. I can remember now.

17:38 So then he stopped working and he said well does that mean?

17:45 Just left 4 times together.

17:55 Does that a lot of niches?

17:58 What does that mean? When is that mean? Excellent?

18:04 In her

18:06 Plants. She's a planner.

18:09 She's

18:11 Serious about things

18:16 Now you I wanted to tell you this many for a long time. I just love it that you when you come home to visit you sleep with me in the other bed next to me or

18:32 Read stories to me

18:38 There's other things I keep talking here. I wish you would.

18:43 5 out of an interview of you, but you're the important one here. Tell me.

18:53 What are some of the things that you hope for your kids?

18:59 What are things that we have to?

19:02 Workout of God

19:08 That's a very difficult question, honey.

19:11 I wish for you it a religion.

19:17 Okay or beneath in or studies and you might have studies.

19:24 Mankind

19:28 And that diet you will believe that it's important.

19:33 And your you would orientate your families?

19:38 Like that not I would hope that you had religion would be part of your life.

19:47 I hide her but seriously.

19:51 But I've FYI is much as you can.

19:55 Together and also a studies

19:59 And maybe helping the rest of the world.

20:03 With some something you can offer.

20:07 In the way of

20:10 Literature or something like that. What about you? What do you think? What do you think?

20:17 I don't know.

20:20 Well, you also have we have two new members of our family to your grandkids.

20:30 What are you what are you hope for them?

20:36 I'm not too worried about influence from the negative negative influence from the family.

20:46 I'm sure they'll bleed lot. Love to completely I don't worry about them at all.

20:54 If if I suppose I would be a buttinsky if I thought there was some.

21:01 And then we're doing the right thing.

21:04 I guess I would be a buttinsky and stopped.

21:13 Talkative Mommy

21:18 So

21:21 Part of the reason we decided to do this was

21:26 A diagnosis of Alzheimer's

21:30 Help

21:32 Why don't we talk a bit about?

21:38 Some of your memories that you'd want to have remembered so I thought we could start with something like

21:46 1 is what is one of your happiest memories?

21:51 It can be from all your life with us or without us when you were young or I wish you would have.

22:07 I dice happiest a happy a happy memory.

22:21 About Christmas always always fun.

22:24 There's a honey it was not very nice thing that I did. I insisted one time.

22:34 The step-back the family always sat around this grandmother Cecily Cecilia.

22:55 Grandma Cecilia, and it seemed to me that the rest of the children in school.

23:03 I had to be big flocked trees for they would.

23:11 Spray colors on your Christmas tree, so I wanted a pink one. That was the year of the pig.

23:23 Plus at the table and

23:27 Fried and said well everybody else has this Christmas trees with red and I want the pink one and my friend Judy out the street. They have a big one and my father I was his favorite I guess.

23:45 Okay. Well get up. That was fun at my father. Actually. I took care of a baby all the time.

23:56 He died of a

23:59 Stroke

24:02 Jared Mexico

24:05 Wet when they were leaving when they were going to the airport.

24:10 Which is too bad dad my mother.

24:14 She loves the pink, but she did have symptoms of.

24:21 Alzheimer's and she was hospitalized for it.

24:27 And it's real hard.

24:31 How to make you I mean tell me more about when you learned that your mom had Alzheimer's

24:37 We didn't have to learn about it because previous many years have our life my child my mother's and I she was depressed you have depression. So having her add to kind of weird to do with her and her mother live with us.

25:03 Your grandmother

25:07 Margaret know my grade was Grandma

25:11 Matt mazur Graham

25:15 Cecilia her mother live with us and helped out in the house and there was nobody to help us sometimes I'd come home and she she had a clogged Closet in her bath in her bedroom was kind of a long clock to go in there and Scribe right track.

25:43 That just came out sometimes.

25:48 Sometimes she'd hug you.

25:51 Around the knees

25:55 Set up Disney on the floor are kind of crawling over to you.

25:59 Help me out me.

26:02 Young grade school

26:06 What is your Secondary School?

26:18 Tulsa hospitals five or six maybe 10 times. I don't know. Why don't remember that was what happened with her, but that the very end she was hospitalized for Alzheimer did Art very hard.

26:36 I'm just warning you.

26:42 Are you oh I want to do.

26:44 Today, I thought it would be nice to talk about.

26:50 But I'm proud of

26:54 Okay.

26:56 Dresses

27:01 When she was in high school.

27:03 No, this is she went to from Mexico to United States.

27:11 And her first class was in secondary school. She didn't.

27:18 Take before a junior Angus show.

27:25 She said what come with me and to class now. I had had been a student in high school in the USA and it would be terribly embarrassing to have your mother come into the room and sit down and class and observe the class, but Teresa wanted that they happened so she went to the teacher especially the math teacher.

27:59 And he was a little surprised if you want to bring your mother to meet you.

28:09 And everybody kind of laughed about that, but I think most people would love to have had their family.

28:20 Observe and

28:23 Get to know.

28:25 Their teachers that they like to know.

28:29 That's the kind of yeah, she was proud of me because she wanted to she thought she was thinking that I

28:46 But smarter than he was up to his level of this Mass teacher Shake instead.

29:01 Somebody's mother would come in their glasses.

29:08 At what level? Is that? What else are you part of?

29:18 So

29:21 You mean besides your studies. We started a little bit talking about things you are proud of you were proud of steady taking you to her class, or are there other things you want to share that you were proud that you have been prouder?

29:42 Where are you? I have a problem completely proud of all of you.

29:54 That's probably not.

29:57 Barrett clear proud of all of you. Of course. I'm proud of all of you. I mean you are my family you are my

30:12 Summer hats

30:17 You fellas, right Irene, Nevada.

30:31 Oh, oh, oh really taught me how to drive that. I always tell is that early in the morning in the dark?

30:45 Okay.

30:47 What no other traffic was on the road? Okay, and because if otherwise it would have been dangerous direct for other people and so actually I did that and we drove around with you and then Mitch Reza and Omar and Daddy and Miriam.

31:11 So the class that

31:14 I don't know if you remember.

31:19 Mariam your sister she acts she acts so nice.

31:33 Runtime

31:35 We had those pet a big bathrooms and it would house and she as she was standing on.

31:44 Crate and washing her hands, and I was sitting on a toilet and waiting for her.

31:54 Definition and so she stood I have Mary.

32:02 I wish I had.

32:04 Pompeys like you

32:08 And I said why I'm kind of fat in that region. I'd wouldn't let anybody else to have such Patty B's but she said well, yes, Mary.

32:29 I want to have puppies just like you so I don't fall into the toilet.

32:47 So tell me about a little bit of the same city you share with him.

33:03 I know I think I hope I hope today.

33:09 Healed her soul, and I hope Willmar heals his body.

33:16 And we both know that my time is going to be fine.

33:23 So

33:27 I mean and we all hope that you and Jorge would come here and live with us.

33:34 So that we can stay close.

33:38 But

33:43 I mean, I don't know.

33:46 I don't know. What's going to happen. We are we don't know.

33:50 It goes up and down its life is kind of iffy iffy.

34:03 Well

34:06 I know this is a tough question, but

34:09 Since

34:11 We are facing but of memories dissipating. I wanted to know if there's one or a few memories that you want to.

34:24 Keep forever that if as your as your memory starts to slip away that you'd want to wear. You know what I wrote down. What what is my very favorite?

34:46 That way I found somebody told me the date was July 1991.

34:53 And there was this Eclipse. I don't remember how old you were like 10. Do you remember? What do you remember about it?

35:07 Just I don't know there was a are there was the air got a wish are wish questionnaire and

35:15 My Wii all the schools that had their children get special glasses and the plumbers.

35:24 The plumbers especially have those thick glasses that that you can wear the welders plumbers license.

35:34 But the very most beautiful thing I thought was putting the papers white papers underneath the tree.

35:44 And that lack of them and then the eclipse.

35:53 Was seen there. You can see it looking down not up you receipt look down at the white paper.

36:05 And they are you see part of the Sun?

36:11 Yeah, there's not no no longer there. No thousands and thousands of eclipses on the ground in this white paper.

36:24 So I thought that was just I really think I would love to repeat this time after time. If you want to give me some money or a trip. I would really like to see one more time another eclipse. There are people who do that Hunters of eclipses. Yes.

36:49 They months early. I think they have to make reservations to to go and vote some things to do if you lots of money do something nice for me.

37:06 Now I know one more time to see the eclipse, but I thought it was great. Did you and the air?

37:19 You don't remember that babe.

37:22 So I thought it was terrific. There's one thing I guess in my life. That's really was good.

37:32 It was a good thing. I wonderful thing. There was no negative thing with that's right. It was perfect. There weather was perfect.

37:45 So

37:48 And about Omar.

37:52 Okay.

37:55 Stuttgart Pizza

37:58 When she was dying.

38:04 Is she taking such good care of her?

38:10 So we all think of your misguided.

38:14 Optional drug taker

38:32 I'm sure if you asked him, you know, he would do it again.

38:37 Harry would not again. It was with somebody else if somebody else is needed.

38:43 I offer he would do it while he is going to Mexico to

38:49 Can I help take care of you?

38:56 We think we're going to take care of him.

38:58 Well, hopefully it's a symbiotic relationship.

39:07 If I could sick presents, he would literally come back.

39:13 But I don't worry about that anymore. I feel relaxed having talked to you.

39:21 Like a relaxed

39:23 Life is Fe.

39:30 You know, what I haven't mentioned is.

39:34 There was a

39:36 Group

39:38 Promoted by John F Kennedy Elvis Peace Corps

39:43 And I joined that Tabitha I was selected and I worked in Peru Lima Peru.

39:53 Maybe it were in the way of the head cuz that's a long time ago and I hardly ever talk about it. But I know you learn Spanish there and that's how you end up in Mexico.

40:08 Would you like to hear?

40:10 Story of

40:12 Apple

40:15 I went but yeah, I don't think it's funny that a thymus is finishing. So I wanted to say so, please.

40:37 Thank you for

40:41 All the stress that this cost you and you came and you told your stories. This was a fun experience for both of us and

40:54 I feel better. I love you. Thank you for coming.

41:06 Safe travels tomorrow back to Mexico

41:11 Oh, yeah.

41:14 I love you too, honey so much.