Sharon Ross, Larry Duncan, and Sarah Mitchell

Recorded June 29, 2021 Archived June 28, 2021 35:35 minutes
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Description

Sharon Ross (45) has a conversation with her father Larry Lee Duncan, Sr. (80) and her great aunt Sarah Petty Smith Mitchell (89) about their family and some of its history in Georgia.

Subject Log / Time Code

Sharon (S) asks Larry (L) to talk about his grandparents.
Sarah (SH) talks about her family being multi-racial.
SH says living in Clarkston and Covington was more integrated than other places she lived.
SH says she was taught by her father to respect everyone.
SH talks about wanting to be identified as a human and a Christian--not by her race.
SH says her grandfather was not a slave, but a child of a white man.
S asks L and SH what they would like to tell her if this were their last conversation.

Participants

  • Sharon Ross
  • Larry Duncan
  • Sarah Mitchell

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00:02 5.

00:04 My name is Sharon Ross and I'm 45 years old. I'm here right now in Atlanta Georgia. Today is June 29th, 2021 and I'm talking to my amazing Larry Lee Duncan Jr. And my great-aunt. She's so sweet and kind ferret Eddie Mitchell. They're both also in Atlanta today and just wanted to spend a few minutes asking some questions. But if you could go ahead and introduce yourself that 1941 in the city of Atlanta. I'm not sitting on Carson George. I'm sorry. And

00:53 Serve two years in Germany, and now I'm just retired and hang around a house.

01:02 If you go straight as yourself.

01:05 Okay, my name is mrs. Sarah Petty.

01:11 Smith Mission. I was born in Covington. Georgia, move the clocks in Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia, but I am now so just make it show up that. I've lived a lot of places.

01:30 And how old are you? Sarah? How old are you single? I'm 9 years old. 17, 1932

01:45 Excellent. Thank you. Spell. I just wanted to spend some time talking to you both about our family. There's a lot of family history here in Atlanta with a petty. Family are the Smith family. The Mitchell family that in a Dunkin family. That is just so Dad and then I'll ask you to Aunt, Sarah. What were your grandparents like?

02:17 My grand, my granddaddy was a college graduate. He brought me from Clark College and he was a minister. And my my grandmother. She was a Smith and she just was a housewife of the times you had six girls and two boys. He had three boys and one died at birth month. Say what I was told twin brother and but as far as I can see my grandfather, he was a breadwinner at the time and he was a medicine and he grabbed from Clark High. Like I said, and he wake that up and Deport.

02:55 Even a real father and mother but they my granddaddy didn't raise me. So I stay with them.

03:09 Until?

03:12 Okay. Anyway, I'm the youngest Larry. The oldest grandchild. So, you know, we don't know. He was highly intelligent until he died. He died like a month-and-a-half 110th birthday.

03:43 So April.

03:47 Play 14 1886 and he died on February 23rd 1996. He was still highly intelligent. But like I said, he talked with me a lot about a lot of things that would move the clocks from the Devon moved to the Atlanta.

04:18 So what else you want to know? The Castile dad and remarried and dogs? He he just he was a Methodist United Methodist Minister and another round of Atlanta. He built his own church and start as a Baptist Minister, but you know, then she didn't know nothing else to do because she had left him a message to charge. Glad he had been a pastor, they are in, tonight. If you're not at Wesley, Chapel years ago. So confused about is his dad is dead and papa carry.

05:13 Where is Covington? Georgia? You said he was. He's a white man.

05:19 Well, that's what it's so confusing to most people that don't understand why we're Christian people, right? That's why we have to love everybody because I was glad father. I was right there and I was the cast of a great-grandfather owned. The whole Plantation Patty Hill, Petty great-grandmother. My dad is grandmother on the ship, trade and I told her that she has a station. I don't know what she lost, but when it's been Papa, When papa got married or whatever and she

06:19 Atlanta, she married, but she, when she, when she left, I was a great. Great, great. Great white. Father. She came to Atlanta and she married that she buried in a fight Cemetery. She was able to buy property to put dad in college and over there.

06:44 Add a clock old College, you know, the Old Clock College, cheat, sheet that married and I didn't know anything about her and all of that stuff, you know what happened? And she died, two years. He went back to Papa because dumb and a brother, like you by 2 years younger than that. And when he got back there, that's when Daddy Papa Merrick.

07:44 Atlanta Airport.

07:57 Security penalty to have him but probably carry. I don't know. But somebody said Lee Petty. Now. I got to leave my name Larry Lee and I greatly. That's my uncle and that's that leaving care enough, but they say

08:15 Was he said, he was born in Covington and I just, I'm just trying to find out the connection to that on to that. That's what I heard. I don't know why the hell, I think picture, we got that. He had left in the way they put, Indian Bhajan.

09:12 Is that what happened? That we never heard from him? But never heard from your brother. Any more people. I would go. Nice with tell me, ask me what I can to visit Pat at somebody and I said, cool. And I knew he was and I said no, and so dead. It said, well, I'm Not Afraid. Those are your relatives cuz you never heard from him anymore. And nobody knows what happened. You know, we look so much like their that's another story. But what I'm trying to say is I got all kinds of most of them them all mixed up.

10:05 They are part of the South, it had to be because we play with each other. And my brother has been saying that all went to the movies and they dated. And so what happened, my brother? And my brother, some of the girls was getting so aggressive and he's so he can't be sure cuz I was afraid because, you know, they had the Ku Klux Klan and other parts and not too far away like so much because they will want some place. He's going to those movies and all together but, in Clarkston,

11:05 Play, I had my friend to play with her and daddy would be careful where you play with them because they don't have my kids cuz they've been free to do everything. He was said, he did tell me that you're talking about, but I'm always listening to me live and they should be in school and said, my mama used to sew Patterson things for the little girls cuz they talk about cuz my children, they don't understand. All the seven, Sharon understand, all these things because everything is just came out of place and everybody. I know I am a Christian, I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe in the Holy Spirit,

12:06 Cuz I got everything. Now my said work in Washington DC for so long as in pairs of white, now, they can go bad.

12:40 Cuz my sister's they didn't never get no job. That was, but some people have culture special. Did you respect yourself? I want one more until we were raised in the Christian family.

13:40 Sweet alcoholic drinks and stuff. And I took my daughter to love to if you know, how did you get to see him this? And everybody was said, she said to talk to him and I'll tell everybody and complexion. We got some black and an outlet and then my mother said she was 18. I don't I don't

14:40 You talk about a problem. I got his picture of arch, Apothecary was the white man in man. He told me that it was a black 401. Got that knows you and Sam got proper care. No.

15:19 And you put on Richard Petty.

15:23 Expression that even got told to

15:31 Petty was supposed to be my granddaughter, huh? I don't know. But when I figured when he died and look at my granddaddy picture, now, they look like brothers. That is all that my grandma and they would say, people because they all kind of names and so daddy told us you repeat those kind of names and our house. The color people is for the Christian people said because we are all color. We are just like a

16:25 We just like a a Nutella and and then they were saying other names, you know what me telepizza? So I can't identify because

16:55 Nothing is easy on him because that's how okay. I can check that came from Africa that I knew.

17:12 I guess.

17:44 Yes, I just call you Google so much. He has so many cheer you on here was a toriel.

18:02 Yes. They you said your white twins?

18:30 No ice in a White Plains.

18:36 I did my daddy. My daddy custom was a doctor and he he was right. And

18:48 Everybody but me like that, but he came to baby. They said, we were so happy for you. You know, you can babies 4 babies at time. So,

19:48 That's okay. I guess you was a pedicure and my brother Sammy or not, but show me your dad after my phone because it is crazy.

20:34 I know I didn't ever forget, I heard at your mama house and she was scared at home and I they had a midwife and she was Highland. So my man told me he they got you out of the tree and Dad have a baby.

21:12 I like it the biggest, but they explained.

21:33 Craigslist.

21:37 I was going to be mad at me and I was 8 years old. So, you know, why does experiment when we are nothing but

21:53 Human race. And that's what they're trying to do a Cop cast.

22:09 Yeah, when we can move along and be so happy to be alive and just use the word of God said no, I don't need you to identify me.

22:25 I'm a child of God, and I'm a Christian woman.

22:37 I know you are Christian, but are you Japanese? You could be.

23:00 Religion, according to your race.

23:04 No, I don't have to I Like the Way You Are.

23:13 And I did what you have. You got that feeling.

23:38 Where at Walmart, my bloodline is you know like that and told me when I was a little boy, the other picture of his mother sitting on the counter.

23:51 In public areas, where the white man.

23:55 Sarah go home. And like you said, Carrie has a fever like that in Covington, Georgia or his cousin's name cousin, but it's so fucked on your own or how y'all related don't appear to UCLA and you probably go to school. History was not kept up like a respondent.

24:30 What's integrated? They were all the people coming in like from Stone Mountain and play the Christian people. I don't know why.

25:07 If you want to try some weed with you.

25:11 My mother always a shock, because

26:11 Wait, but we know they are beautiful. People saying everybody is mixed up because everybody was okay. When I see her face sheet. She she looks just like him and she got two big long that's going on. Hang on her back. She said her dad was he

26:55 Mixed up in that suit. The any of the Ethiopian see all that mess. I don't think about it, my Grandmama.

27:22 On my mama side was Smith and my Grandmama on my bed is that was me that made them cousin then?

27:32 I don't know about that because that's when the slaves come in from the slave owners. You see what I mean?

27:54 He was a petty by birth,, So that's when they named that I'm a slave owner. That's why he gave him all the way in and put him out there and I heard that. He's so that's how I know.

28:47 Well, I tell you one thing and then I'm sorry, but I know that we got a lot of people who are having issues with that special today on TV, but it's all just white, man. He didn't know that. He's a great, great, great. Great.

29:42 Or the black woman said she was, I had a baby by the Bay by mouth and, you know, he had black but every time I try to figure out, if you run into a whole bunch of stuff that you don't know about she, when she got ready to go on with CJ, found out. She had 1% because she's black and and it was a mess, but that was a long nose. If it's really

30:37 Yeah, that's it.

30:41 I like that one question. If This Were our very last conversation and is there anything cuz we have about 9 minutes left. Is there anything to me, or do you want me to know about both of you? But your background individually or together? How, well, how are you going to my grandmother? And my granddaddy had to 12:13 something like that. He's going to be in mourning, cook browser, and go to work and my Grandmama. She used to, you know, saying in the church had me singing, but people don't, you know, and I appreciate that.

31:41 And no telling what I would, I would have, did you know?

31:46 Well, I'm thankful that we are. Christian loving people, you know what I mean, like, love and respect. I know how to love ourselves and others in the maintained and no God in God. She does her faces. She could do anything. They said she would call me when he was a little boy out of use for your from the dock and stuff like that. To me. She could do that. She can stay and she was a copy when they had those who won School rooms back there, but the office,

32:44 No tragedy. I will people have learned to love and be respectful and that's what you always know that you will go back and love all people and not know who you are. And Jesus Christ is our savior. And the next thing it says nobody. I don't know what it called. If you talk to download something people down the stereo and make people violent and evil, it's enough of that in the world. We need to know that's a love. That's what I want you to know.

33:42 Yeah, yeah, he's trying to stay away from me. Stay away from me.

33:51 That's what I need to tell you. And let your children know that it's always trying to stop.

34:09 I'm telling you. That's why he's able to be the man. He is today. Now, you know, you have a lot to be proud of you because I said that but I know we need to be okay.

34:44 About anyone. That's what I'm trying not to do and you got the key right? Well, thank you guys both. I'm very grateful.

35:17 Before we do. So we do need to do later.

35:21 Like a disclosure form to Hillary that something's can do now.

35:28 Yes, so have you guys finished fighting to turn off the recorder now? Okay.