Shymeria Stone and Noah Hack

[00:02] SHYMERIA STONE: Hi, my name is Shimeria Stone I'm 24. Today's date is July 22, 2023. We are in kalamazoo, Michigan. I'm here with my friend, Noah

[00:15] NOAH HACK: Hi, there. My name is Noah Hack I am 22. It is July 22, 2023. I am in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and I am also here with my best friend, shaidhead.

[00:29] SHYMERIA STONE: Noah What did you really think when we first met or when we became friends?

[00:36] NOAH HACK: So what really got me and shy to be friends? I'd say it was the first time we worked at Chili's. I was a server, and I saw her just, like, you know, doing her thing as she usually does. Doctor, like, you, like, you okay? Yeah. You were basically just, like, doing whatever you do at chili's, you know, like, being the best. Being the best, as always. And then I saw you, and basically, I just knew we would be best friends as soon as I saw that you had, like, tape wrapped around your shoe, and I was like, oh, yeah, she is. Like, she doesn't have enough money to buy those shoes, and she's gonna wear them to the max. And I'm just like, yep, that's me. That is. That's so my. Like, I'd be best friends with her.

[01:32] SHYMERIA STONE: That's funny. It's not that I didn't want to buy another pair of shoes. I just. If it's not all the way broke, why fix it? So I wrapped it up with.

[01:41] NOAH HACK: Yeah, no, and I just thought you always had, like, a really nice personality, and I. Everybody would always, like, talk to you and talk good about you and. Really, I didn't like Chili's. I didn't like working there, so I.

[01:55] SHYMERIA STONE: Don'T think anybody likes working at Chili.

[01:56] NOAH HACK: Exactly. So I just think that kind of blossomed our friendship and just kind of put us in, like, a good place.

[02:04] SHYMERIA STONE: I feel like, yeah, most definitely. I think Chili's was the starter spot for our friendship, for sure. I literally remember when I, me and all the chili's girls, we used to, like, look everybody up when they were about to come in for an interview, and we'd look them up on Facebook, and we'd pull them. Everybody up, and we pulled you up, and I was like, oh, he looks nice. And we were all just talking, and we're like, yeah, he looked really nice. And then you came in, and I just. I saw you standing, talking to whatever manager was there, and you were like, I just looked at you and I was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna be really good friends.

[02:37] NOAH HACK: Yeah. Because I was wearing that big shirt, and it was, like, really big shirt.

[02:40] SHYMERIA STONE: And you had those socks on with the. With the cat sushi. Or maybe it wasn't cat sushi. I don't know. I think it was sushi.

[02:46] NOAH HACK: It was just fun socks. Like, I just. I always had, like, little thing that I had to. You know, everybody known me for, so. But.

[02:56] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah, when I. Besides the socks, when I first talked to you, I thought you were really funny. Yeah, very funny.

[03:03] NOAH HACK: Yeah. No, I thought you were really nice, too, and that's why, like, kind of, like, I'm a little bit mean sometimes, and she kind of like, will you really. Honestly, just kind of, like, cover the niceness part? I would say about my.

[03:15] SHYMERIA STONE: You know, because you're a little bit snappy. I like snappier people.

[03:20] NOAH HACK: Yeah, sometimes it's like that. So let's move on from this. Do you think we will always be friends in the future or forever?

[03:34] SHYMERIA STONE: Yes, I do think we'll always be friends in the future.

[03:44] NOAH HACK: Why? What's the why?

[03:49] SHYMERIA STONE: Why are we always gonna be friends?

[03:51] NOAH HACK: Yeah.

[03:52] SHYMERIA STONE: Like, because we're, like, the same person, but just different.

[03:57] NOAH HACK: I'd go based on that. Just kind of, like. Because we have, like, a history. I mean, we've been friends for, like, probably four or five years, and, you know, honestly, like, you come up to Grand Rapids. Because that's where I live now. And I've been there for about, like, you know, three years. And, you know, we still. We've lived with each other. We. You know, we've known each other, like, pretty, like, long enough to understand how we live, like, how we work as humans, just even together as friends. Like, we'd go out and we'd always just be super close with each other, and it would just. That's why I think it was just, like, we'll always be, like, best friends and everything, too. Like, there's always just that. Been that, like, you know, I can be silly around you. I can be just, like, my actual self. And then I. Honestly, it's just, like. It's through, like, thick and thin. I feel like it's just like, how that connection's been ever since that Chili's. I'm telling you.

[04:51] SHYMERIA STONE: No, Chili's really did something.

[04:54] NOAH HACK: No, really. Did those margaritas do. Do something, though? No, they really got me going at Chili's. But it was, you know. It is what it is.

[05:05] SHYMERIA STONE: No, we'll always be friends just because. I don't know. We just are. I don't know how to explain it. We just will. We talk all the time, and we like bicker, but then we don't bicker too much.

[05:20] NOAH HACK: Yeah, no, she.

[05:21] SHYMERIA STONE: And it's funny, kind of, when we.

[05:22] NOAH HACK: She loves to argue.

[05:23] SHYMERIA STONE: I don't love to. You love to argue.

[05:26] NOAH HACK: Your argumentative, especially once you get a drink in her. Oh. She's like, okay, maybe a little bit.

[05:33] SHYMERIA STONE: But you. And you antagonize it every time.

[05:35] NOAH HACK: Yeah, because why not? It's fun. You'd like to, you know, just being. Just being silly. Woof.

[05:51] SHYMERIA STONE: Okay. What?

[05:54] NOAH HACK: Moving on.

[05:56] SHYMERIA STONE: Moving on to the next subject, Noah what if you had to tell your younger child self something? What would you tell yourself?

[06:12] NOAH HACK: I mean, you know, honestly, what I would tell myself in the past is just kind of go forward with your dream. You know, I didn't come from, like, a very wealthy family, and I kind of think that it really pushed me to where I am today, you know, making pretty decent money. And, you know, that's not really just kind of what brings me happiness. Really, what brings me happiness is just kind of just loving everybody. Like, I've always been a family person, and, like, I've loved my friends, you know? And what I would honestly just tell myself in the future, you know, again, I'd say, like, just go for it. You might not know where you are right now, but you will know in the future where you stand, who your friends are, and what your family actually means to you. I mean, come on now. When I was, like, probably like, 1211, you know, that age, I didn't want to be home. I didn't like my family. I didn't like my mom. I didn't like my family. Like, of course I wanted to move out. You know, I wanted to move out, like, so quick. But the more I think about it, you're going to regret that in the moment because you have to pay so much. It's not fun.

[07:36] SHYMERIA STONE: No, that's true.

[07:37] NOAH HACK: It's literally so much money, and you were living for free at your house. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

[07:44] SHYMERIA STONE: I regret that every day. I used to be like, I can't wait to get out of here.

[07:48] NOAH HACK: Oh, my gosh.

[07:49] SHYMERIA STONE: Have my own bills. I don't need my own bills.

[07:51] NOAH HACK: And now they just rack it up. It's not fun being an adult. It's not at all.

[07:55] SHYMERIA STONE: It isn't. It isn't.

[07:56] NOAH HACK: It is and it isn't. Yeah, I guess that's true.

[07:58] SHYMERIA STONE: You get a lot more, like, freedom and everything. You just have to pay for all that freedom.

[08:03] NOAH HACK: Yeah.

[08:03] SHYMERIA STONE: You have to go to work.

[08:04] NOAH HACK: That's like.

[08:05] SHYMERIA STONE: But you know, luckily, like, when you find, like, a really good job, sometimes you like going to work. Like, I love going to work.

[08:12] NOAH HACK: Now.

[08:13] SHYMERIA STONE: When we worked at Chili's.

[08:14] NOAH HACK: Yeah.

[08:14] SHYMERIA STONE: Did I like going to work? Not really.

[08:16] NOAH HACK: I mean, of course, yeah, that was like my peak. Every single time I'd come to, like, chili's and everything, just for the freaking schedule.

[08:25] SHYMERIA STONE: And being like, yeah, no one's working at night.

[08:28] NOAH HACK: Yeah, that was like the best knowing. Yeah. Honestly, but just go for it. Be who you actually are. Don't pretend to like people that aren't really your good friends. Don't fake it till you make it. Don't do it. It doesn't work out in the end. Really, honestly.

[08:48] SHYMERIA STONE: No. Very true. I would probably tell my past self growing up that things most definitely always do get better. They get better in their own pace and in their own time. To sit and wonder why they're not better now is going to be detrimental or not even detrimental. It's going to cause you a lot of pain in the moment. Pain that you do end up learning from and you do end up being, I would say, more of an understanding person. But to just not stress about the little things because it's not even worth it to stress over and maybe take a step out and to go, like, look at the sunset or do something to connect with nature, because I didn't really do that much when I was a kid. I was really in the house, like, a lot. And so, like, to connect with nature that, and to just honestly, just to love yourself for who you are because you are a really good person and you probably don't feel like you are most of the time as a kid, but in all actuality, you're like kind of the. Kind of the shit.

[09:52] NOAH HACK: But yeah, no, I going based off of that. It's like, don't worry about the little things in life, but also those little things that you do are also, you know, another thing that can really boost you to where you go in the future. You know what I mean? Just enjoy what you're doing in the moment sometimes. It's not necessarily right to just think about the future sometimes and stress about it and, you know, stress about, like, the past history, of course. Move on from it, but just grow as a person and just enjoy the little small things that you do when you go out or just, you know.

[10:33] SHYMERIA STONE: Like, live in the moment.

[10:34] NOAH HACK: Yeah, exactly. I'd say. And now we're gonna go on to another question. Okay, next question. So let's talk about your family and how they taught you what you know today?

[10:50] SHYMERIA STONE: Okay. My family pretty much taught me everything. They're the closest thing that I've always had. I moved around a lot, so we were very a tight knit family. All my siblings, we still talk every day, if not more than once a day. And my mom and all my aunts and everything, each of them, I took something from each of them that I really, like, appreciate, and I made sure to put it into who I am as a person. I think I'm a conglomerate of all of them, just kind of put into one.

[11:28] NOAH HACK: We love Aunt Lisa.

[11:29] SHYMERIA STONE: We do love Aunt Lisa. I do love my aunt Lisa. I love my mom, my nana. So funny. She's just hilarious. She's straight from Jamaica, and so she has, like, these little. Little things that she says when I was a kid, and it's like, little, like, jamaican slang. She'd just go around and she'd say it all the time. And every once in a while, when I get, like, really upset, I'll just say something random and I'll just. I don't know if I could say it, but I would just say. I would just say, you're nothing but a good wretch. And, like, in, like, Jamaica, like, when you call someone a wretch, it's like they're kind of, like, twisted and evil and wicked. And she'd just go around and someone once cut her off when we were at McDonald's when I was a kid, and they cut her off in the line, so she rolled down the window and she goes, you wretched witch. And it was the funniest thing.

[12:26] NOAH HACK: You'd always make those remarks, too, like, every single time. Like, kind of just, like, do what she says. Half the time you're just talking jamaican. Like, having a little jamaican accent, dude. Cause it's just, like, so funny.

[12:36] SHYMERIA STONE: It's just so funny. Cause when I used to live with her when we were growing up and I lived in Florida, and I kinda caught on to some of the things. And so, like, the little. Besides ratch, the other thing she used to say would be, like, tanamet. And, like, when you say that, it's like, eat your food. And so, like, I was, like, a picky eater when I was a kid, and I didn't wanna, like, eat any of that. Eat it.

[12:58] NOAH HACK: I didn't wanna eat any of this all.

[13:00] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah.

[13:00] NOAH HACK: So what we're getting from us all is we also love her nana.

[13:05] SHYMERIA STONE: We love her most of the time. You guys don't even know what she's saying when she's on the phone. Phone. You, like, you're like, what did she say?

[13:10] NOAH HACK: No. Every single time you're on the phone with her, I'm just like, dude. What? I'm like, I love her. Like, she's so. She's so silly. Like, she knows me. I've never even met her before.

[13:19] SHYMERIA STONE: No, she does. She asks about you. She's like, how's Noah doing?

[13:24] NOAH HACK: Like, oh, my gosh. Yeah. No, I honestly just kind of doing the same question, too. You know, my family has taught me so much.

[13:36] SHYMERIA STONE: We love Aaliyah. We love Elisa.

[13:38] NOAH HACK: Yes, we do. They have taught me about, you know, as we talked about earlier, money doesn't buy you happiness. Kind of just look and live in. In the moment. Kind of don't look for the future. As we talked about earlier as well. They really are my biggest influencers on my life. They have taught me so much, really. I've always looked up to my sister the most. She has a great job. She loves her husband. She now has a kid, which I am baby Jensen uncle, which is awesome. And I'm so happy to kind of just see my sister grow and to see where she is now. My mom also, too. My mom and dad got divorced when I was about 13, I believe 14. Everything was finalized, and I would do week on and week off with both of them. Was not easy at all.

[14:48] SHYMERIA STONE: I can't imagine.

[14:49] NOAH HACK: It was. Was very hard. Kind of just going from, like, you know, different, like, cities and just following and going to school from those cities and about an hour drive, like, from grand rapids when my dad lived there. And, you know, my mom dated a guy, too. That was just, like. It was just kind of, like, a little bit more toxic, but. And I forgive a lot of, you know, and I forgive a lot of, like. Especially, like, my dad and everything. And my mom, like, what happened in the past, the past. The past. And, you know, I love them both very dearly. My mom is, like, my biggest supporter. We talk every single day, along with my sister, too. And my sister has always been there for me, you know, ever since.

[15:34] SHYMERIA STONE: But I didn't know your dad lived in Grand Rapids.

[15:37] NOAH HACK: Well, he used to. So he used to live in Grand Rapids and then lived there for about a year because he was dating someone. And then we moved back down to Battle Creek, which is his rental. And then another year, he moved over to Hastings and lived there. So that was just a little bit, you know, chaotic. And I was a little bit everywhere, and I was a little bit everywhere. In Michigan, he's a little bit of a wanderer. I was a little bit of a wanderer, too. And then I found out about Kalamazoo. And then I moved out and lived with my sister and her now husband. So I lived with them for a year. And that's how actually, me and you met Chili. That's how we met. Chili is in Portage. Yeah. Good area. Good area. I love Kavel Zoo. It's pretty chill.

[16:28] SHYMERIA STONE: Very great.

[16:28] NOAH HACK: It is.

[16:29] SHYMERIA STONE: Okay. What's the biggest wisdom in your life? And who.

[16:36] NOAH HACK: The biggest wisdom in my life.

[16:41] SHYMERIA STONE: I.

[16:41] NOAH HACK: Mean, other than Timothy Chalamet. Like, that's my inspiration of what I want to be.

[16:48] SHYMERIA STONE: But you want to be Timothy?

[16:50] NOAH HACK: I do. I do now. Kind of just going to face off earlier, too. You know, I'm just keeping going back and back. But my sister is my. My wisdom in my life. She has given me so many advices, especially with dating. She's always been there for me when I was like, you know, I've dated people every time, if we break up, like, she would always be there with me with open arms and understand, you know, she'd be there for me. And I've always appreciated that in somebody, and that's why I've always looked up to her and why I would always do the same in return for her. So she. She has done a lot, you know, and Timothy Chalamet, too. But what would you say? Shy, what would you say to that?

[17:44] SHYMERIA STONE: My biggest wisdom in life? I would say that my biggest wisdom in life is to treat people how I would want to be treated, because I feel like when I go through day to day things, I find myself asking my question that a lot when I'm talking to someone or not a lot, but when I feel like I'm coming off a certain kind of way, I would want to know if someone was asking me in the way that I'm asking, if I would be appreciative of it.

[18:16] NOAH HACK: Do you have anybody in particular that gives you some good wisdom?

[18:20] SHYMERIA STONE: I mean, I think everybody gives me wisdom because, like, in a way, you know, I find that most people, you know, not all of us have it all put together. We don't have it all right? But some people have a better understanding of other things than some other people do. So, you know, one thing that they might, you know, you might not agree with them on, you could agree with them on something totally different because they feel differently about it, if that makes sense. Like, you know, like someone that's really good with finances and, like, you know, you go to them and you're like, oh, yeah, I need to figure out how to do this. And they give you some really good advice, but, you know, they're not too big into the, into, like, the whole of aspect of things, so I probably not gonna go up and be like, so, yeah. How do you think I could win, win this guy over? I don't know. And so I just, I think wisdom just comes from knowing people and knowing what they're passionate about. Because I feel like when someone's really passionate about something, that's when their realist wisdom comes out.

[19:26] NOAH HACK: And that's what I've learned for, like, the longest time, too, is just kind of almost like, looking up to people. I don't even know if this has any topic to do with it, but somewhat of wisdom, but just really kind of just looking at people, and we get very. Almost, like, jealous of seeing other people, like, do good things. And, you know, people are perfect in a sense, but what I've just kind of learned from it, it's like, nobody's perfect. You know, seeing people on social media, they're not perfect. They may look perfect, but also they have an actual life. They're doing stuff that's not perfect. And, you know, everything is not always the way it looks or portrays to be, you know what I mean?

[20:07] SHYMERIA STONE: Right.

[20:07] NOAH HACK: And somewhat, it has a little bit of wisdom in it. Cause you learn from that, and it's just like, you grow as a person, you know what I mean? And you meet other people, you meet new people that kind of just, like, almost help with that, too, if that makes sense. Somewhat.

[20:23] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah. Okay.

[20:24] NOAH HACK: You know what? You get what I'm putting down. You see what ballpark I'm hitting?

[20:28] SHYMERIA STONE: But I was gonna pick up on that thing you said about people on social media that look like they're the perfect. And, like, learning from that. I will say that it does take longer to realize that people like that aren't perfect. Especially, like, now I'm thinking about it, like, kids growing up right now with how much, you know, there is on, like, with technology and everything like that.

[20:52] NOAH HACK: Social media.

[20:53] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah, I'm a tad word because I. My sister's, like, eight, and she will, like, watch these videos and, like, swear that she can. She'll be exactly just like that. Those kind of things. Yeah, and, like, she hasn't seen like that. Most people don't really do that, and they don't really look like that.

[21:11] NOAH HACK: Oh, yeah, no, and so, yeah, no, yeah, but, yeah, no, we're really going off of that, honestly. It kind of just, everybody's wrapped around technology especially younger kids. And I don't really even know what got us into this conversation or where this even, like, kind of came from. But, but no, it is really the truth, though. Like, kids are just so attached to their phones every time. Like, sometimes I'm a culprit, you know what I mean? Like, I get on TikTok sometimes and, you know, I watch videos to go to bed most of the time. Yeah. And kind of just working with yourself and kind of just understanding that these are just photos. These aren't the moment. These are what people are feeling. You know what I mean? People have feelings. And nobody's perfect, you know, Hannah Montana said it best. Nobody's perfect said Hannah Montana. Yes. I miss Hannah Montana. You know, actually, you know, I actually really do miss Hannah Montana, though, because I. I'm gonna say this. This is actually kind of just, like, really funny, because when I was watching Hannah Montana, I never knew it was Miley Cyrus.

[22:22] SHYMERIA STONE: I. What do you mean?

[22:24] NOAH HACK: I just didn't know I was young. I was like, I was a little stupid and silly sometimes, and I really just did not know it was Miley Cyrus. But then I found out she took her wig off and I was like, oh, my gosh, that's Miley Cyrus. That is Miley Cyrus. Anyways, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put you a little bit on the spot, but I was gonna say, when was the last time you cried and why?

[22:54] SHYMERIA STONE: I, um, change the subject. Um, I'm trying to think.

[23:11] NOAH HACK: Well, I mean, we can always do another question if you wanted to.

[23:14] SHYMERIA STONE: No, it's fine. I think the last time I cried is I had my feelings hurt, and so I cried. That was pretty much it.

[23:21] NOAH HACK: Okay. Okay.

[23:22] SHYMERIA STONE: When was the last time you cried?

[23:25] NOAH HACK: Honestly, it was probably the other day when I was working and I saw another person get a promotion that I was working really hard for. But then I realized the next day it was a little bit of a miscommunication. I was there, obviously, a little bit longer, and I was working really, really hard for it. And when I saw somebody that was working the same amount of hours, working as hard as me, got that position, and, you know, it kind of just brought me down a little bit, kind of discouraged me. But the next day, my manager came up and talked to me and kind of just really threw everything back in my face and was like, hey, this is, you know, this is what happened. There's a little bit of a miscommunication on our parts. Like, I was on vacation. Nobody else told me that you know, he was getting a promotion and two, you know, and really it just kind of hurt my feelings and I just, like, was crying the whole day, you know, I really. I really wanted something like that. Like, I've been there for, you know, a decent amount of time and I really did want that promotion and I'm still in the process, you know. And, you know, some people get those promotions sometimes. You know, it's okay. Like, it's. You don't have to keep on, you know, dragging yourself down about it and should not affect your work ethic. No, not at all. You know what I mean?

[24:48] SHYMERIA STONE: What?

[24:48] NOAH HACK: It shouldn't ruin, like, your work ethic, you know what I mean?

[24:51] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah.

[24:51] NOAH HACK: And kind of discourage you and, you know.

[24:54] SHYMERIA STONE: No, that's true.

[24:54] NOAH HACK: But it's okay.

[24:55] SHYMERIA STONE: People get down sometimes, but you'll get the promotion.

[24:59] NOAH HACK: We'll get there. We'll get there.

[25:01] SHYMERIA STONE: You'll get it. Yeah. Please? Okay. Please. All right. What is your favorite memory of me?

[25:08] NOAH HACK: Um, honestly, now you put me on the spot. Geez, there's too many good memories, though. I honestly remember when we went to Michigan's adventure. That was a really just fun time, honestly. I just. You were wanting to go on, like the wallet, like the water slides and everything so much. Especially the way. The wave pool. Yeah, the wave pool. Especially the wave pool. You literally would just not get out of the wave pool. And I was like, girl, you are literally have been in there for like an hour, an hour and a half. And I like it. I just want to move on from this stuff. It'd be like a thrill. Yeah, no, exactly. And there's another one, another time, too, that, like, really. When we went hiking, we went hiking like plenty of times. Or honestly, what just really came to just my mind. This is my favorite time ever. When we went to California, when we went to San Francisco, it was the best time. It was for my birthday, my 22nd birthday.

[26:08] SHYMERIA STONE: We did good. 22nd birthday.

[26:09] NOAH HACK: And the place that we stayed at, which was a studio, and it was gorgeous.

[26:16] SHYMERIA STONE: So gorgeous outside. Remember the bathtub outside?

[26:20] NOAH HACK: I know, and there was a hot tub out there, too. But that was really kind of mainly just why we went there.

[26:25] SHYMERIA STONE: And you refused to get any other Airbnb besides one with a hot tub, so.

[26:30] NOAH HACK: Yeah, because I had to. Like, that's vacation, you know? Every time I see a freaking hot tub, I'm just like, wow.

[26:36] SHYMERIA STONE: Like, I'm on vacation.

[26:37] NOAH HACK: Vacation. And then when we went hiking over in the redwoods, part two, it wasn't the real redwoods, but it was pouring rain.

[26:47] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah, get this.

[26:48] NOAH HACK: It was pouring rain. Shy. You did not have any boots on. You had Vansheen. There were so many mud puddles.

[26:58] SHYMERIA STONE: I asked you, I don't go hiking. So I said, I set the fit. I said, this is a good hiking. You were like, yeah, yeah. And then we get there.

[27:05] NOAH HACK: That was before I knew it was, like, pouring rain. And we get there, we're in the middle of nowhere. We get dropped off by our uber, and we have no service. Like, we don't have an umbrella. I'm out.

[27:20] SHYMERIA STONE: I had left my vape in the uber, so we didn't have a vape either.

[27:23] NOAH HACK: It was just off. It was. It was a little bit chaotic that time. And then I had, like, a sweatshirt on. Well, a sweater on, and I was perfectly fine. You know, it is what it is. It was pouring still, but we were drenched. You were soaked. You were just stepping in mud puddle after mud puddle. Your feet were covered in mud. Oh, my gosh. It was the funniest thing ever. And you were so mad, and I was just laughing the whole time. It was just kind of created, like, such a good memory.

[27:52] SHYMERIA STONE: We have a good memory for you.

[27:54] NOAH HACK: Well, I mean, of course, at the end of the day, if you think.

[27:56] SHYMERIA STONE: About it, I mean, it was like when I go back and I tell people, I go, yeah, that time when I got stranded out and we were strolling the woods, and then we had to walk for 40 minutes in the freezing cold trying to find service so we could order another uber.

[28:08] NOAH HACK: This was down the road. Keep in mind, this was down the road. Like, we had to walk in the road to actually get. And then all of a sudden, we got, like, 1 bar, and somehow we got an Uber driver to come out to us. And I don't know how still when.

[28:23] SHYMERIA STONE: He picked us up, he was like, I wasn't gonna come get you guys.

[28:25] NOAH HACK: I felt basically like we were in an episode of naked and frayed, but not naked. You know, I felt helpless walking on.

[28:35] SHYMERIA STONE: The side of the road. I was about to start putting up a finger to be, like, literally the same thing, too.

[28:40] NOAH HACK: I was turning, trying to tell you that. I was trying to tell you to not, like, you know, put up a.

[28:44] SHYMERIA STONE: I literally was trying, but I had my hair done, and then, like, all the chemicals, like, in my, like, the gel, and then it was raining, so then they were running down my face, and it was getting in my eyes, and then my eyes were burning. So I was cold and my eyes were burning.

[28:55] NOAH HACK: It was.

[28:56] SHYMERIA STONE: And I was really wet. When we go back we're definitely not going when it's raining.

[29:02] NOAH HACK: Yeah. Yeah, well I mean it was during their off season so I mean it was still like, you know, it was like. Honestly still is their offseason right now. It's still like 60 something degrees there, you know, like California's like hold now. So like honestly I wouldn't go back till probably like maybe not or something like that because it's hotter in October. Honestly I feel like it would be because we went in February and it was like 60 and it was just raining the whole time. We had one day where it was like somewhat kind of nice. But other than that you know, we couldn't even really do anything. I mean we went to Alcatraz island to that day and it was, it was really fun. But it wasn't what we really necessarily hoped for. No, the tour guide was really night tour.

[29:42] SHYMERIA STONE: But then the night tour started at seven so it was still daylight.

[29:45] NOAH HACK: Yeah, so it was still daylight out. The sun didn't like actually sat to like probably like nine. I'd say like 9930. Yeah, and it was late. Like we were just chilling there. Like the tour guide was awesome. Like the tour was really sweet. Like you know, it was a little scary, spooky, but not anything too crazy, you know?

[30:06] SHYMERIA STONE: Right.

[30:08] NOAH HACK: But let me say, can you tell me about someone who you'll always remember or like basically who would you kind of want to come back from the dead? Raga, you know.

[30:45] SHYMERIA STONE: Someone. Okay. Someone that I probably would want to come back from the dead would be my uncle. He, when we were growing up.

[30:59] NOAH HACK: We.

[30:59] SHYMERIA STONE: Were just really close and he used to love cooking. He was a chef and I remember any time that I was around him he was always cooking some stuff up. So he had this world famous Mac and cheese recipe and I just remember out of all the things that he was going through he always loved to cook. And I kind of got that my cooking from him a little bit just because when he was like really down he would just go to the kitchen and he would chef something up. And I see myself doing that in almost my everyday life. Anytime like I feel like something's going on, I go to the kitchen, I find a new recipe.

[31:41] NOAH HACK: Yeah. And cook it up. You were like you're going into like culinary science are you not? Like that's what you really want to do kind of. I'm not going based on that.

[31:50] SHYMERIA STONE: I want to be good at like cooking or I am good at cooking. Yeah, correction, I am pretty good at cooking. I did want to go to culinary school, but I don't know how well or I don't know how I feel about the techniques and things that they use in culinary school. I have a very specific way on how I like to cook, and I don't. I do enjoy being critiqued on my cooking, but nothing. And I guess that kind of way. So, like, for a while, like, my uncle, he went to culinary school, too, and I think he learned, like, a good deal of all of his skills from that. Or not skills, just, I guess, technical way of doing things.

[32:33] NOAH HACK: So is that why you won't eat my lemon chicken?

[32:35] SHYMERIA STONE: Okay, look, I literally do eat the lemon chicken, but you always use, like, big chicken breasts, and I don't like how big the chicken breast is. But it is good.

[32:46] NOAH HACK: It is good. Hey, I cookie stuff sometimes, too. I know.

[32:49] SHYMERIA STONE: It's not bad. I taught you how to cook some things.

[32:53] NOAH HACK: You're picky sometimes.

[32:54] SHYMERIA STONE: I'm not. I'm not picky. I just like to know what's in things and how you.

[32:58] NOAH HACK: What's in them sometimes. But she loves to cook. You do?

[33:02] SHYMERIA STONE: Like, I do like to. And I get that from. I do get it from my uncle, I think, because he was a natural cook at heart, and I never knew that. Yeah. That's why he always, like, at thanksgiving, he always brought, like, he fried the turkey and he made the Mac and cheese, and he made, like, almost all the dishes. And then my mom would chip in a couple things, and then my nana would put in some jamaican flair, and then he just kind of combined all of them into his dish dishes, and they all kind of, like, spoke to everyone, and we all always loved it.

[33:40] NOAH HACK: Sounds like a bomb. Thanksgiving, honestly. Yeah.

[33:43] SHYMERIA STONE: You got. You been up to Thanksgiving at my house? I don't think you ate, though.

[33:46] NOAH HACK: I don't believe I was ever at your house during for Thanksgiving. I might have came over and, like, saw your family just for a little bit. Yeah, I think.

[33:55] SHYMERIA STONE: But, like, I think.

[33:56] NOAH HACK: Oh, yeah, I just came to say hi to everybody. Yeah, I think it was also I came by on Christmas, too. Like one time, I believe. I don't remember, but I think I just said, yeah, yeah, you did. I did come over for Christmas one time, you know, just to say hi to everybody. Her. Your mom was actually literally, like, she got me, like, a popcorn tin.

[34:13] SHYMERIA STONE: Yeah. And you were so funny. You were like, she gave you the popcorn tin, then you were like, you text me. You're like, um, what does your mom want for Christmas? Like, it's a popcorn. Well, no, then you're like, what do London cash and PJ and.

[34:29] NOAH HACK: Well, it was like, in that moment, I was just like, you know, that was such a sweet thing to think about. Just, like, think of me, you know? And just, like, the little stuff like that they put, like, you guys put a little card on there for me, too, at the bottom of the, like, the popcorn tin, too, you know, just little things like that really just kind of make me feel loved and appreciated. And you are, too. You are very loved, and your family is also very loved, too, I'd say.

[34:53] SHYMERIA STONE: No, most definitely your family, too.

[34:56] NOAH HACK: I mean, honestly, kind of just, you know, getting the full understanding of this whole little podcast or just a little talk we've got going on, really. We have known each other for so long, and just to come in here and talk about us and our friendship and everything really does kind of show who we are as people, you know, and as friends. Like, we are so vulnerable to each other, and we have always, like, had such that. That big connection with each other, and I couldn't imagine my life without you, so.

[35:39] SHYMERIA STONE: Aw. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine my life without you, either.

[35:42] NOAH HACK: And when we get in fights, maybe sometimes. I can imagine, but I'm just joking. I'm just joking. I'm just joking.

[35:51] SHYMERIA STONE: No, no, it's okay. I do the same thing.

[35:54] NOAH HACK: I know. Oh, yeah. But thank you, shy, for, you know, having this conversation with me, and I really appreciate your time.

[36:06] SHYMERIA STONE: Well, thanks. Thanks, Noah for having this conversation with me. I also greatly appreciate your time. Bye bye.

[36:15] NOAH HACK: It.