Tim Wheeler and Joseph Ernst

Recorded October 15, 2022 Archived October 15, 2022 01:31:54
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One Small Step conversation partners Tim Wheeler (68) and Joseph "Joey" Ernst (40) explore common experiences growing up in small Midwestern towns and talk about their differing views on environmentalism and climate change.

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Tim talks about the book, High Conflict, that was part of his motivation to participate in One Small Step.
Joey says people sitting face to face is a good way to break down ideological boundaries.
Joey tells a story of working as mechanic for US cycling team, travel to Europe, South America, Australia and New Zealand.
Tim worked as hardware engineer, worked in Asia for more than a decade moved to Hong Kong from Singapore, worked for Apple.
Tim says his 5th grade teacher showed us the world through geography.
Joey grew up in Southern Indiana, homeschooled by parents; cultivated natural curiosity.
Joey values autonomy, community, free speech.
Tim says politics is a way to find common ground and solutions.
Tim says the role of governments is to ensure equity and inclusion.
Tim grew up in east Iowa, Muskatine, near banks of Mississippi River.
Tim says his roots of environmentalism come from a childhood outdoors.
Joey questions the validity of climate science.
Joey says electric vehicles are not necessarily more environmentally-friendly.
They discuss environmental issues.
Joey: less globalization would be better.
Tim concerned about carbon emissions.
Joey against "legislating virtue".
Tim advises Joey not to let go of his idealism.
Tim believes in importance of local community action.


  • Tim Wheeler
  • Joseph Ernst

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KSUT Public Radio

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