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atl004380
38:27
Karen Odell and Cassidy Odell
Cassidy Odell (28) talks with her mom, Karen Odell (53), about family, career, and some of life's lessons.
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49:30
Mark Samuel and Paula Veldhuis
One Small Step conversation partners Mark Samuel (62) and Paula Veldhuis (62) discuss the generational approaches to racism in the US, assumptions people make about them, and their troubles with the current presidential candidates.