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Stephen Skeels and Sam Usem

One Small Step conversation partners Stephen Skeels (52) and Sam Usem (36) talk about the effect of the pandemic on their lives, in particular their experiences related to owning and starting businesses. They also discuss their politics, Sam being a...

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Michael Wehrle and David Shanks

One Small Step conversation partners Michael "Mike" Wehrle (70) and David "Dave" Shanks (64) consider how their upbringings and recent examples of police brutality have shaped their understanding of racism. They also discuss the issues they have with the current...