Charles Warner and Julie Miccichi

00:09 K my name is Julie Michie. I am 40 years old on this day, which is March 11th, 2010. We're here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I am the daughter of Bob Warner.

00:26 My name is Charles Warner. But I go by Bob. I'm 79 years old. Today's date is March 11th, 2010.

00:37 We're in Atlanta, Georgia and my relationship.

00:41 To my partner is my daughter Julie.

00:46 The first time you said out loud that your 79 his birthday was yesterday. I know if you admitted that to anyone yet so far.

00:59 Dad, who was I'm sure there been many but who is an important person in your life? And what could you tell me about him or her?

01:09 Probably my Uncle Jim Warren or was

01:13 Very influential in my life because he's the one that

01:22 He encouraged me to go on the school and and to do something with my life that.

01:31 I probably would have done without his encouragement. There was no I mean Uncle Jim and Son Aunt jamming Uncle Jim and Aunt June my dad's yeah, and so like how did he encourage you did he just have conversations with you to do spend a lot of time with him when you were growing up or fairly close out. He was still a bachelor in his forties. And yes. Every time I had to go to Grandma's house or he was it our house. He would encourage me and as far as Cooling and everything to try to better myself and everything dad. He's gone to school and why are why do you think he he?

02:25 30 she went to business school to your business school and completed at and he knew the importance of his education because he had three brothers that didn't have a formal education. So and he had a lot of opportunities that they didn't have. So that's where he was coming from is at use encourage me to go on to school. They take that kind of interest you think with your brothers and sisters or did you guys have sort of a a different relationship with you?

03:03 I think we had a different relationship. I think it was more or less age-wise my two older brothers.

03:12 We're

03:15 They were already in high school and everything and I was just

03:21 Grade school later part of grade school and my youngest brother of course hasn't been born yet.

03:32 You got a lot of brothers and sisters right had three brothers and four sisters big family, huh?

03:49 What was one of the what's one of the happiest moments of your life what you say?

03:58 Whether there's more than one I think.

04:02 One is marrying your mother. And the second one is having a four beautiful children. This is where me and Mom start trying to I'm so you know, that was the point of breaking for us. Also. What what what do you think was why was at I mean, why is that? Why is Mary mom the happiest moment of your life what you so well

04:30 Most of my friends were already married and everything and I just thought the

04:37 I want to see things do different things and everything and I just I met a lot of nice women and everything but none of them really appealed to me like that. I want to spend the rest of my life with and we met under strange circumstances. It was a blind date and I only went because

05:04 Jack Burrows wanted people that are douches is a good friend and he encouraged me to to go along with this. So I did and that's how I Met Your Mother.

05:18 Yeah, and you were how old are you when you got married?

05:22 I was 31.

05:25 Your old man, huh? But by the what's one of the saddest moments of your life.

05:41 Other than losing

05:43 My mother and father, I think the death of my youngest brother was that because you were older and you kind of were yeah, I was older and I was he looked up to me as well as his older brother and we spent a lot of time together or hunting Woodworking and we had a lot of mutual interest in

06:18 When he passed away a lot of that passed away.

06:26 Who's been the one of the biggest influences on your life what you say? And what what did they teach you?

06:35 As far as influences on life, I think.

06:39 Again, Uncle Jim

06:42 Was a real good teacher and his wife has been a lot of people through life that I've learned a lot from and everything. Like what kind of things would you say?

06:57 That business about how to treat people who taught you how to treat people because that's one of the things I think people always every time I talk to someone who knows you they always comment about you know, just what a good person you are and how kind you are. And so, where do you think you got that from?

07:23 Supervising people and everything. I had a boss at GM one bought one of many.

07:32 And he was a very unique individual.

07:38 When I first started working for him, I he would answer all my questions and everything and then one day he finally said why am I paying you if I'm going to answer all the questions? He said you have a good mind. He said go apply it.

07:56 And it just floored me that nobody is ever said that in business to me before, you know, everybody that supervises seems to think they have to have all the answers. This guy told me you have the answers you go blind if you fail pick yourself up and start over again and tell you succeed.

08:24 So that was a real eye-opener nights.

08:29 I probably had at least 10 minute 10 years of General Motors is dead point for that happen and I'd imagine kind of bass in your upbringing so many brothers and sisters and kind of growing up Catholic and Stephanie probably part of you know, what happened and going to Catholic School part of what you learned was sort of the stay in line and soar do what you were told. So probably coming up on that lesson was wood. Would you say would you say more obedient? I guess that's true is to respect people lay on your place and then but I mean, so then to have somebody encourage you in that way. We would probably be pretty impactful I suppose so that

09:10 So who's been the kindest you in your life?

09:18 There been a lot of nice people that I've met through life it.

09:26 I can't really pick out any one individual certainly a family has been kind to me like a lot of people.

09:44 If treated me very nicely and it's appreciative it's in today's world. It's it's sort of hard to see.

09:55 The young people in their thoughtfulness, I guess and how they treat people even their people their own age. I don't expect any consideration because I'm older or anything, but the

10:13 I think a lot has to be said today about manners and I think that you've always maintained that you've always been that way. They've been consistent that way your whole life.

10:29 Do you think that being kind other people has paid off and that that's why you receive so much kindness. Do you think it's a

10:38 It reciprocates when you do that.

10:42 Not at all cases, but I think that you've got to try to treat people with respect and if they're disrespectful backed, I guess you just shrug your shoulders and go on to the next individual.

11:00 Cuz what are some of the most and I say some cuz I know there's probably a lot what are some of the most important lessons you've learned in your life.

11:12 Well, I think being independent.

11:17 Is one that good?

11:20 Fiscal conservatism is another one.

11:31 The Sword Art it's a sort of a hard question a lot of things you learn in life. I hope Sally a right on the pendants that we sent or conservative conservativism. Write. That is one thing I guess. I've always admired about you and Mom through all the ups and downs, you've always managed to have everything that you need and have a lot of things that you wanted. How do you how do you where do you think he learned that our how do you know that because I think that's probably another thing that we're missing in our generation when you talk about growing up in a lot of credit cards. That was a

12:13 Hey.

12:15 Pretty sobering experience and

12:21 We had a nice home and everything and we lost dad during the Depression and everything. We had to moved to a lesser home and everything in the the country that home or what the one over by the park.

12:47 Etsy that was

12:50 Right after the

12:53 First world war and then

12:58 To put into depression. I forget the

13:02 It would have probably be there in about 35 1935 that they lost at home and we bought my father bought a lesser home over on 2nd Street Northeast in New Philly.

13:18 I didn't know that.

13:25 So you think that taught you to be more financially conservative? What else what else do we always have to work even at home when we were always assigned jobs and everything and we are encouraged to go out and working and earn extra money and everything picking berries beans corn. You name it in the summertime and you know all kinds of my jobs at raking leaves whatever the occasion was in this somebody was needed help and they were wanted to pay you and everything even if they don't want to pay you but most of the jobs people were

14:17 They were

14:19 Thankful that you help them and they will give you something in a quarter at that time. That was like

14:28 $5 bill right now. Did you get where you expected to get that money to your family when you did that or was that money? You could keep we always did odd jobs around the house and I helped my father. We always had a big garden and everything and he had in addition to working and everything. He had he was he enjoyed Woodworking and everything and he would do repair work for people in the neighborhood and that type of thing and sometimes I'd go along and helping with that. So would you say that's where you earned your the learned your skills of Woodworking and fixing and I think that's worse. But I think

15:20 It's so I sort of faded for a while, but when I got into supervision, I think that's when I got back into that coming home thoroughly frustrated from work, but dealing with Labor Relations problems all day. You had to have a lot less something. What's the what's the thing that you're that you're most proud of that you've built.

15:52 Oh, I don't know how.

15:57 In your particular case. I enjoy building the clock for you and Tony for your wedding by special hand Beretta Builder clock for

16:08 And your sister Julie or Leslie? I build a

16:14 Roll top desk for her and Wendy. I

16:19 Build different things for her and everything and your mother, I build things different things for her.

16:31 I don't really have any one particular thing that stands out then they're all.

16:41 Little projects in enjoy doing them and everything and that's why I do.

16:51 What's your favorite memory of me?

17:03 I think graduation in California.

17:13 Well

17:16 Going to California your mother and I had some concerns.

17:28 Sticking with it going to school and working.

17:35 Your mother and I both know that that's a challenge. Yeah.

17:41 Obviously must spend something that you've imparted and me since that was a lesson you learned from your uncle made by yes.

17:55 What words of wisdom would you pass on to me?

18:05 I think just continue doing what you're doing as far as your family and your marriage and everything is

18:13 You're encouraging your children and their various outlets and everything. And I think that's important.

18:24 For them to become free spirits to is that what you want or you just wish that on me so I can go to the same pain that you have? I thought that would be the answer any experiences or moments in your life that you would consider sacred.

18:57 I don't consider myself an over religious man. I believe in God and I go to church and everything and I guess that's part of my feelings towards other people is

19:14 To do unto others as others do unto you but the

19:21 I don't.

19:23 Cra

19:25 Chick-fil-A thing as I'm standing, I think it's just your life in general that you even have a belief in God or you don't have a belief in God.

19:38 Henna

19:40 Have there been particular moments where you felt that connection to God more than you than others.

19:47 Corset pretty consistent

19:50 I'd say it's pretty consistent to a couple of times in the service. I thought that I was pretty closed well at 1

20:09 Thing that comes to mind is

20:13 I used to have to fly what they called crew chief on the plane and

20:20 We used to take Pilots out over.

20:30 Don't up and down words over the bay there and their training and they used to to fly what they called Blind. They put screens up at that time and put them over the windshield and fly instruments and approach Estrin landing and everything and

20:52 1 days and my checks are function was just sat there observing other aircraft at which I was doing but the pile I forgot to switch to a full tank of gas as we started this one in the middle of this whole thing the engine stopped in.

21:14 Started for the door. I did I thought sure we were going in and the co-pilot come and grab me and I'd already peeled the door all the emergency hatch is you have like a lifejacket on I mean a parachute on had to go back and have a drink. Yeah, I would say sassy felt pretty close to God at that point. If that would have been your last moment. Do you think he would have that would have been you would have been at peace with that with your with your belief in in God and you're where you're at with your spirituality?

22:04 Yeah, I guess I would have been a piece of that point regardless where I was going.

22:10 But you know.

22:14 You live everyday as best you can and then.

22:21 I've never been one to to wear things on my shirt sleeves or anything like that. So I guess so.

22:29 I believe that still take care of me one way or the other.

22:34 So that said you believe that there is an afterlife.

22:40 Yes, what is that look like to you?

22:47 You're asking a little prematurely. What's your thought on that you can confirm later, but what do you think it is?

23:03 It's just another world.

23:09 Yes, I don't really know whether you'll have as many conflicts and opportunities as you have here or anything. I don't think so, but the nuns didn't teach your dad wife.

23:26 But

23:28 No, I think it's

23:31 Another experience

23:38 Do you think I know some people talk about like meeting God and and having a conversation kind of the quintessential at the Pearly Gates. Do you think they'll be that opportunity will be like a conversation, you know a point at which she sort of.

23:55 Defend what you've done or who you are Church teachers as you are there conversation. I don't know whether

24:04 He'll be that kind of formality or whether the guy with the long tail the other I'm doubting. That would be the case. But do you think you would have a conversation with there be like will there be a question you would ask God that you wondered that you've

24:28 No, I would never just be along for the ride at that point.

24:44 What are your hopes and dreams for my kids?

24:50 Well, since I've got such a good start on life.

24:55 Or say I want to know if any school and I like foreign dog went to a field that they would truly enjoy and everything and if they are so inclined to get married and raise a family like you and Tony have I would be more thrilled about that, too.

25:17 How's your life different than what you thought it would be?

25:24 Well, I feel very fortunate.

25:30 Regional large family like that in a small town. Your options were rather limited you could go work in the steel mill. You can work in a clay plant. You can even work in a coal mine if you wanted to.

25:49 And as I said earlier my Uncle Jim encouraged me to go get an education and it's opened a lot of doors for me.

26:03 Anna

26:05 Shorter done my own thing what I wanted to do.

26:10 And it has no eyes turned out the way I wanted to do. But at least I made those choices and I love with him when you say you done what you wanted to do. You feel like you made choices are different from your family. Do you feel somewhat different from your brothers and sisters choices?

26:31 I don't know. I don't feel any different in regards to them and their choices and everything because they

26:43 Never went on got through education and everything and they're their opportunities. Were there other limited none of your brothers and sisters station everything and

26:58 Course after he got out of the service and everything while they have never loved around around us or anything, but none of the other ones have never well Dorothy went to started in the nursing school and then she dropped out to get married and everything, but she gives me the rest of them have never had any formal education.

27:25 How do you like to be remembered?

27:28 What would you like people say about you? How's your legacy?

27:36 Oh, I

27:40 Say did Isis people just remember me as a nice person?

27:45 That's all I can ask for. I think you got that one in the bag. Actually. Do you have any regrets in your life?

27:59 Where are you can always look back and see things that you could have done a little differently and choices just chewed made a little differently, but overall, I think that

28:10 Things have worked out fairly well for me.

28:15 There's a lot of opportunities for different jobs and more money and things like that there but I chose to spend time with you and your fam my family and your mother and your kids as much as possible.

28:34 Is there anything you've never told me but wanted to tell me.

28:43 I think that you know pretty well how I feel about you. We're all so proud of you for what you've accomplished in your life.

28:54 And it'll basically on your own.

29:01 And

29:02 I remember telling you you left for school and come back and told us that you were going to relocate and go to California and I remember telling you that I only pay Ohio to what yeah, yeah.

29:24 And I did the same thing with your brother you both both had scholarships and chose to go to to other schools. Hey, that's your choice.

29:36 And I'm sure you don't regret those those choices learning and I'm just happy at work out. A lot of I told you so's probably huh both done a great job of always letting us make our own decisions. And and also I think really teaching us, you know, we have we can make whatever Choice One and there's always a consequence and I think that's an important life lesson, you know, your mother's background and everything and the sting.

30:17 The first one in our family to go to college and everything and her mother and father. We're almost Shun from the fact that she wanted to go to college because

30:30 People young women don't didn't go to college and went to work to help their parents everything and them true sure to do that along with other people and

30:44 People don't give up scholarships and go out to California either, huh?

30:51 I never really thought about it. That way though, I guess is what I'm saying that Mom, you know was a Pioneer I guess of sorts and I guess that's what you're saying to that. Well, you know when I get out of school my brother my dad.

31:08 Got me a job.

31:11 And working construction and then my brother John got me a job working where he was working and everything and it was a pretty good job and everything but the owner there to encourage me to go to school. In fact, he was so nice that you so let me play night Watchman on the weekends and told me to bring my books where I used to work 12 hours on Saturday and Sunday, and he said the only had to make the rounds once an hour and the rest of the time I could study so I had plenty of time to study so

31:51 But

31:53 It all my my dad thought it was you know, it didn't understand why I wanted to go to school. My mother encouraged me some light but my dad couldn't understand because you know, there was a lot of jobs around at that time and everything. But so he thought you were being sort of short-sighted to think to go to school vs. Take some of these good jobs. Are you think he just didn't have a point of reference because he does have a point of reference. I think he felt intimidated by you by making that decision that you were somehow hadn't had an opportunity or we're going to do something more than he was able to do.

32:32 I don't think you felt intimidated, but he thought that I had.

32:37 Did I was going to be able to do more than he could do I'll never forget.

32:44 When I left for school.

32:48 He gave me $5.

32:55 Sailor

33:00 Is Ed Celeste fiscal responsibility to talk about?

33:09 It coming from the family had to watch their money. That must have been pretty huge.

33:24 Do you want to say anything about what your parents were like?

33:30 Well, my mother was a very loving person.

33:36 I was always accused she Favored Me.

33:51 I forget who I was talking to recently.

33:56 I was telling him about.

34:00 Playing ball that first house we lived at over on a Q Street. There was just a driveway between the houses and my mother told us not to go anywhere. My father just come home from work and he was taking a bath and she said don't go anywhere because we're going to have dinner as soon as your father is finished.

34:25 So my brother John who was always The Adventurous and one he said let's play ball.

34:33 So we proceeded to play ball in a butter car in the driveway.

34:41 And my oldest brother dick was pitching and I was supposed to be the Fielder and John has a batter.

34:51 And he hit the ball and it went right into the bathroom with me.

34:59 Our Father line us up and all three of us got to paddle or Ensure

35:11 This is one of those things that you don't forget, huh?

35:21 Debbie meskers son CJ book. Yeah. Oh, yeah and different things and she is since my brother John. I died before CJ. I got this book. She asked me to sell some of these in so I sort of ghost.

35:49 Some of these things and some of these stories I put in there and Debbie she was quite amused because it wasn't the right time. We had model airplanes and the house was a two-story house. So my brother dick and John,

36:12 They let the airplanes they were these kisses you got with weed eater. One of they let the airplanes are floating down the stair with my mother was screaming and my dad come home and we were all right. I appreciate you rearranging your flights to come here and have thus interview with me? I'd definitely think we'll be something will remember and I appreciate that you took time to do that. And I definitely think that you'll always be remembered as somebody who's very kind for first and foremost and that's something I very much admire about you because I don't think I think I'm a kind person, but I wouldn't even be close to

37:03 To that what you exhibited but I appreciate you know that you have given me a lot of room to make my own mistakes make my own decisions and that you've always supported me in that and I do I do also appreciate you teaching me Financial conservative. I don't think I do it as well as you that's for sure, but I think I'm doing better than a lot of people of my generation and I and I do know I get that from you. So I appreciate all the things that you taught me.

37:39 And I love you. I love you to keep up the good work.