Donna Runnels and Jodi Edwards

Jodi Edwards and Donna Runnels talk about their upbringings and being "from away."

Donna talks about working in law enforcement and jails, Jodi shares her experience working in jails, leading to discussion about guns.

Jodi talks about abortion and having had one, moving to guns again, then about both husbands and both fathers.

Jodi shares family story about father's affair, being a closeted gay man, her mother a therapist and the entire family taking ecstasy, lack of boundaries in—and disagreement with parents—upbringing.

Jodi asks Donna which people had influence on her beliefs, Donna hates that question, Jodi shares about two artists who influenced her life, Donna shares about her music teachers.

Participants discuss personal political values, agreeing a Trump re-election would be bad, climate change, and referencing interests in other countries support of work/healthcare/vacation as good models.

Donna asks Jodi if she disagrees with her beliefs, acknowledging the surprising belief in Donna's remarks on the lack of value in college, Donna shares more about this belief and family history, Jodi surprised and thought she was the more "Liberal" one yet is more open minded towards gun ownership because of her husband's hunting identity and gun beliefs.

Donna discusses events that shaped her beliefs including JFK assassination and living through Civil Rights Movement; Jodi discusses father as Justice of Peace.

Donna shares why Conservatives think she's Liberal and Liberals think she's Conservative.

Both share how they'd like to be remembered, Jodi for being nice, a good listener; Donna for being tough on outside and soft on inside, and for being patriotic.

Donna shares additional thoughts on patriotism and wanting there to be a military draft again, the value of military style of life for young people, and how nobody seems to know anybody in the military.