Jaclyn Witthoefft and Susan Gardner
Recorded
October 23, 2022
Archived
October 23, 2022
47:44 minutes
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ddv002114
Description
One Small Step partners Jaclyn Witthoefft (41) and Susan Gardner (46) talk about their relationships with their fathers, their spirituality, and why it’s hard to have difficult conversations with those close to you.Subject Log / Time Code
Jaclyn (J) talks about her upbringing in Virginia and considers how her parents’ divorce impacted her. J also talks about her marriage.
Susan (S) shares that her family moved around a lot because her father was in the military. S says she moved to New York as an adult but moved back to Virginia when her father got ill.
S talks about her work as a psychotherapist working with children and adults.
S reflects on the last days she had with her father after moving back to Richmond, and on the loss and grief she felt when he passed.
J and S share their religious and spiritual beliefs. S shares a story of her asking her father about Jesus as a kid which inspired him to start taking her to church.
J talks about her children going to an Episcopalian school and talks about the responsibilities of being a parent.
S shares how she came to live in New York City and work as a burlesque performer, and how it informed her work as in psychology.
J shares her experience with performance and talks about her career.
S and J both consider their fathers to be big influences. S remembers a letter her father wrote to her when she graduated from high school.
J and S discuss the challenges of having difficult conversations with family members versus strangers.
J says she was raised liberal and has become more politically moderate as an adult. S shares that she’s an anarchist, and shares how friendship is a form of anarchy.
S and J share advice to listeners on staying curious and feeling all the feels.
Participants
- Jaclyn Witthoefft
- Susan Gardner