Jane McKenna and Carmen Brown
Recorded
June 15, 2022
Archived
June 15, 2022
49:24 minutes
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Id:
ddv001795
Description
One Small Step Partners Jane McKenna (76) and Carmen Brown (48) connect over a desire to not put people in boxes and discuss how their views have shifted over time.Subject Log / Time Code
Jane (J) reads Carmen's (C) bio and and asks what shifted her religious views. C discusses her views and how they changed.
C discusses embarrassment she feels over things she used to think.
C ask J about her upbringing. J talks about her housekeeper, Pearl, and her niece, Willa, who were African American women who worked for her family. She discusses how getting to know these women was transformative in her life.
J discusses going to college in the 1960s through a lot of different historical moments and yet being isolated from that and only understanding the significance later. C relates that to her being in college for 9/11.
J remembers the JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinations.
C talks about having moments we wish we could take back, and asks J how her political views have changed over time.
J talks about being influenced by her father who was a Republican who voted for Kennedy, and how we shouldn't put people in boxes.
C and J both express a desire for the current political parties to meet in the middle.
C talks about why she switched to her current church, and the difference between religious guiding principals versus "man-made rules."
C discusses her views on abortion. She doesn't like to use the words pro-choice and pro-life and how picking and choosing circumstances under which a woman can get an abortion is a slippery slope. J agrees and offers her own perspective.
C brings up local political commercials, which leads to a discussion of people's views of the South and Southern stereotypes.
C and J discuss their hope for the future and reflect on their experience today.
Participants
- Jane McKenna
- Carmen Brown