Jason Smithberg and Francine Oputa
Recorded
June 30, 2023
Archived
June 30, 2023
51:15 minutes
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Id:
oss000099
Description
One Small Step conversation partners Jason Smithberg (47) and Francine Oputa (70) talk about race relations in the US, the current political divide, and their social and political views.Subject Log / Time Code
Jason Smithberg (JS) talks about the difficulty of having conversations across different viewpoints.
Francine Oputa (FO) talks about her parents influence and her large family and extended family.
JS talks about influence of his grandfather and Jackie Robinson.
FO talks about using the term "highly educated" in her bio.
JS talks about how he feels about how he sees society taking "4 steps back" on matters of race.
FO talks about how she doesn't see it as taking steps back, but rather remaining the same.
JS talks about his perspective on current political division.
FO discusses her perspective on the difference between politics and social justice, and that people have the right to be angry.
JS talks about his personal political views as a "quiet Conservative", and how he has become more tolerant of other views over time.
FO asks what it means to be Conservative.
FO talks about being Liberal, but identifying more with personal values versus political values.
JS talks about his admiration of FO's self-respect, commitment to her work, the pride she has in her family and upbringing, and appreciates her openness.
FO talks about not having expectations of her partner ahead of the conversation.
Participants
- Jason Smithberg
- Francine Oputa