Joel Anderson and Cia Verschelden

Recorded November 6, 2021 Archived November 6, 2021 01:02:29
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Description

One Small Step conversation partners Joel Anderson (60) and Cia Verschelden (66) discuss major influences in their life, the civil rights movement, serving in the military and political points of view.

Subject Log / Time Code

- Each introduced themselves and discussed why they decided to participate in the conversaton.
- Joel Anderson (JA) asked Cia Verschelden (CV) to expand on her biography.
- JA asked CV about influences in her life.
- CV asked JA about his influences.
- They discussed the civil rights movement and coming of age at the time. DV to JA, "You were right here in Manhattan!"
- CV asked JA about serving in the military, and JA said, "Most of my influences were in the military."
- JA to CV, "What drove you to see a Ph.D.?
- CV, "A lot of people go into social work because they had a social worker."
- "Do you get giddy at statistics?"
- CV, "People should have equitable opportunities."
- JA, "I voted for a certain democrat for city commission, but I want to see change."
- JA, "I used to have discussions about choosing freedom over equality."
- JA, "Both sides of the fence [parties] need to ratchet the rhetoric down and become productive."
- CV, "What do you mean 'freedom over equality?"
- JA, "I believe that most people are good. I want the freedom to study the issues rather than be told what to believe."
- CV, "You have 'white guy' freedom, what about my freedom?"
- JA, "I cannot speak to your female experiences, however I don't disagree with equal pay for the same work."
- JA, "I don't want the truth dictated to me."
- JA, "I'm learning right now."
- CV asked JA about misunderstanding of people of same beliefs.
- JA asked CV about beliefs of similar and different systems.
- Debra explains final questions.
- JA asked CV about how we can influence the political dialogue.
- JA, "We all want the same things." CV, "I want to see movement toward equity."

Participants

  • Joel Anderson
  • Cia Verschelden

Recording Locations

Manhattan Public Library

Venue / Recording Kit

Partnership Type

Outreach

Initiatives