John Kirk and Lou Donkle
Recorded
September 29, 2023
Archived
September 29, 2023
59:22 minutes
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Id:
osh000068
Description
One Small Step conversation partners John Kirk (57) and Lou Donkle (70) workers, unions, personal responsibility and systemic injustice.Subject Log / Time Code
John Kirk (J) ask Lou Donkle (L) why he wanted to participate in One Small Step.
J talks about why he wanted to participate in One Small Step.
L ask J about his political beliefs.
J reads L’s bio and ask why he moved from conservatism to become more liberal.
L talks about moving to Flint, MI. He also talked about the effect film maker Michael Moore and his films had on his political views.
J talks about the auto workers strike.
L talks about his wife’s work with the auto union influenced his views.
L ask J why he thinks only republicans value personal responsibility.
L talks about systemic inequities and his concern that republicans are not as concerned about systemic issues.
J thinks that we should be concerned more with the content of character like Martin Luther King.
Both J and L talk about voting for Perot.
L talks abut how Trumpism is not good for the country’s future and how more conversations like One Small Step can really make us great again.
J hopes we can avoid civil war and blames media for our divisions.
Participants
- John Kirk
- Lou Donkle