Kimberly Kabak Epperson and Shavanna Spratt
Recorded
September 25, 2023
Archived
September 25, 2023
39:52 minutes
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Id:
mby023138
Description
Kimberly Kabak Epperson [no age given] and Shavanna Latrice Spratt (34) talk about motherhood and navigating their interracial friendship as a white woman and a Black woman.Subject Log / Time Code
Kimberly Kabak Epperson (K) and Shavanna Latrice Spratt (S) recall how they met each other at a mom's group.
K and S remember their first conversation about race. They recall their walking dates when their babies were both in strollers.
S and K talk about the time K was a guest on S's podcast and called out another guest for being racist.
S explains how she learned K's allyship was for real and not just performative. S and K discuss how they want to push change for their children.
S and K say their friendship with one another is easy but sometimes hard when they are out in the world together. They detail instances where race has impacted how others treat them.
S and K speak about how the moms' group can act as an equalizer and how motherhood is extremely humbling.
S and K say more about how interracial couples are more normalized than interracial friendships.
K says seeing her and S's kids be friends is healing. S says she and K have important conversations and help build each other up.
K and S share closing thoughts.
Participants
- Kimberly Kabak Epperson
- Shavanna Spratt