Kimberly Scott and Deborah Clark

00:03 My name is Deborah Clark. I'm 60 years old. Today's date is Monday October 18th, 2021. We're at the Mildred L. Terry public library, and I'm here with my interview partner. Dr. Kimberly Scott. Who is my friend?

00:21 My name is Kimberly. Scott. Today's date is Monday October 18th, 2021. We were at the midget L Terry library in Columbus, Georgia. I'm here for interview interview partner, Deborah Clark. Who is my friend.

00:35 Okay, so. The Clark I've got the clock Doctor Scott. When and where were you born? I was born in Augusta, Georgia in 1975. OK? Google. One of your best memories of your childhood.

00:54 I'm thinking so many memories. One of my favorite memories is head. Start going to head start. I'm a head. Start baby. And at the time of course, it's time. Who knows what they're going to be?

01:06 But I think back to going to head home and my mommy going to head start with me. I remember her being brought them to campus with me and come in and sit in the rooms with me. And I was wearing my mom being around a lot, lots of Head, Start in. And then when she went away to join the Army Inside by myself for a while. And then when she came back, we went to

01:30 Virginia together, but my memories is Head. Start in my mom being there with me and Head Start and I have a younger sister.

01:42 Okay, when you were a child, what did you want to be? When you grow up? When you grow up? I want to be Diana, Ross or a lawyer Diana, Ross, or a lawyer, as mahogany albums, and I'm not a singer, but I'm about a person who had the greatest influence on your life. And what lesson did they teach you?

02:13 I'm trying to see my mother and she cuz

02:17 She had me when she was a junior in college. And so she didn't feel, she hasn't finished his college, but she may join the Army to give us a different to give me a different life than her. And I remember when we went to Virginia to see, you know, how to drive a stick shift. She learned to drive a stick shift so she could take the U-Haul from Georgia, from Augusta to Fort Belvoir, Virginia. So, it's little things like that all the time and she was hoping to think that she would do to make sure it happen. It should find a way or make a way. When did you want to eat with your mom would just call her. She said where she go to school. She went to Paine College in Augusta, Georgia mall. Okay. Okay. What did you major in nursing?

03:03 She's she started MCG. Medical College of Georgia.

03:09 Well. Scott, just wear the word that you do. I'm currently a media specialist. I've been with for 16 years. I am a Jill of all trades in a media center. Sometimes I counsel students. Sometimes I talk to him about college and the applications or how to find a scholarship or what college did may want to look at it. Go to.

03:32 I talked to him about to hear about.

03:37 What they're wearing that we just talked. We have different conversations all day and it always and I always try and find a way to get them.

03:46 Think about a book, the reading or listening to have, you always been at your school, the same school cuz my first year. So, I just finished my first nine weeks prior to being in my current School Columbus. High School. I was at Double Churches, Elementary School, for 15 years. And prior to that. I was I taught high school and 4th and 5th graders at Clearview, Elementary School list, but the list, I just completed things a couple weeks ago, a couple of friends that we went on the boat ride and Harriet boat ride in Montgomery, 2018.

04:38 So and then I have a trip planned to go to Cabbage Patch Kids, Babyland Middle School.

04:48 I think so. The reason why I don't think I'm a loser ever, going to be complete because I like to visit as many pieces as possible as soon as I think. I got a good look at number and you to cross off my list. I hear about another one. So it's like a ferris wheel. And where did you get it already? How many have you visited the number? Who knows. I visit in, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi.

05:22 Virginia Florida, Germany. Wow. Where did you visited with Museum to visit when you were in Germany, Germany, I mean, is that I started my love for museums because we have field trips that we went to do our Museum our Castle once a month, so I'm always going to a museum but I've

05:50 Pharmacy. Just so my focus of museums is the African American history. And recently I went to Valdosta.

06:06 Because in the end and I looked it up there, whenever I go to the city. I look up. Museums if you want me to see if it's there and if it's going to find a way to the museum and I don't even care about the officer. And as a Copeland African American Museum on the campus of Ohio, State University is closed on the weekends. So I emailed and said, I'm going to be in Valdosta on this date. Is it possible that I can have a tour of the museum?

06:37 She said where you live close at today?

06:41 Imma go from 10 a.m. To 4 p.m. Please. Let me know your availability. I'll make it work. She owe me back and said, okay, will be there at 10 and I was there. The sound of the museum came in that was he's a professor of the campus was still was just kind of cool to see this person who found the museum artifacts over the past, 40 years old and they donate donate to the college and then that's my way back from Valdosta. I went through Thomasville and stop at the museum museum and Callie. Okay, sweet in Thomasville this month.

07:24 So you tried to do that with some weekends when you tell me a long time. So after that we did the museum because she was something like something fun. So when I went to the museum in the Legacy Museum, Montgomery afterwards, he was on the boat ride. We are that we had a 2-hour trip. So we got a little early to go to make sure you can't make it to me. Sam opens in 2019, but then Kobe and then it reopened them.

08:20 It read.

08:21 Open early this year and onto the youth in your family.

08:31 Cultural awareness.

08:33 When?

08:35 My take my nephew so he's not. He still he's 3 so he's don't have any words, but but it's not easy, but my almost into your nephew. He's been going to meetings with me since see you soon and what's-his-name Willie with me since he was probably five or six and he's also come to the house and he's helped me through June to you for the Kwanzaa program. And if he doesn't come, will come easy.

09:20 We didn't have a program in place last.

09:24 December. So, we did, we had the Kwanzaa at home, but he remembered, because he is so he asked about that. So what are we going to go to the library, like, this summer with the gym, TV came into the library. So you couldn't use it. Come to the library for he's doing for calling to and help me with it. So with him, still my nephew and other kids, I like to have all them so cuz I'm not doing it. So I don't know how to do it. And it said he'll he likes going to museums. He likes the cultural holidays as well. Yeah, I noticed you always do give you an opportunity to share with you. When you do your programs to get the email Terry library, and I know that you have partnered with the the library for many years for Golden Corral cultural awareness, programmes like Kwanzaa black history of Juneteenth and know you just stated to feel like it's important. So when you leave I mean, you know, they'll be the ones to carry on the program.

10:24 You first came to know. Where did you first come to know about the military Library? I was in high school, Columbus, my junior year and half, which my dreams are transferred to Wheeling Central High School, and it was either my junior year or my senior year. I had to do a report on Cowboys.

10:45 And I'm unsure how we ended up at the military library or maybe next time. I'll maybe she knew that the bush that our library, with a list of what was once the black library on that. This is the original Mildred L Terry. It was good. And I'm not even getting that. My first book from here was about black, the Cowboys and it had to cover of this is named Dirk. It was a black cowboy uncover what they had. This is a picture of this man is I'm not sure right now.

11:15 And,

11:17 So that was in high school before this before this new one. Yes, and

11:23 Now he's known it. If I came back from a v, i m come here cuz easier for me to find books that won the read without do that time with Ronaldo own.

11:32 Kimberly, Laura Vitale raspberry, but without the first black New Balance. I remember when I first met you, cuz like, I feel like I've known you since forever.

11:53 No, I don't know who I was working on some high school. Now, does a space feel different from the original Library? Does this space in the new Latin music? El Toro Library feel different from the original Library. If so, how and there's more more space. But the Same Love bed to queen size bed, but it still

12:21 OK, Google, queen-size bed, black heroines and heroes. Do you most admire and why?

12:37 So,

12:39 There's so many.

12:41 The ones that we know.

12:43 The guys, I said my mother and my grandmother also like my favorite person is Harriet Tubman my family just because

12:55 You know the saying that says you're not a leader is nobody following you but I don't know. She found her wait until she came and got other people do to me is a leader is going to cuz sometimes you going out on your own to see what's there and find a way. So you can leave.

13:19 Define away the lead people with you, you know, it's soaked after a while and she her our first trip and you maybe I thought you might go to ourself. Yeah, but I think very highly of you talk a lot about Maya Angelou. Also, I like her. I like her story.

13:51 Book. When I was in DC for the is always a library for the library on base Bolling, Air Force Base, and I didn't know the movie of the book.

14:06 But then I got her some more of her biography and learned that she

14:11 What's a dancer in?

14:14 With the bus driver, All the Things She Said and recently, I've listened to her some later.

14:24 Are older ones at energy talked about what she was playing her party. And how

14:29 Martin Luther King passed away, her birthday on her 40th birthday. Is it what year did Purcell? Bear birthday again? Because it always remind her of his death. She talked about Malcolm X ization and he passed away. And so just listen to California. So, here we are stories. Listen to her in sight.

15:00 Have been powerful Justice.

15:05 In her freedom of James Baldwin, and just her.

15:10 Her story and how she started.

15:13 It shows that there's always. As long as you're breathing, you can keep going and I like her for her saying.

15:20 You didn't she do what she did.

15:23 Wished you did what you had to do, but what, you know, better than she did better.

15:36 So what have you accomplished so far personally, and professionally that makes you the proudest and why?

15:48 One of my best things that came out of came from and he was learning how to make and maintain boundaries, learn how to make and maintain boundaries and

16:01 I say that because for years, I've heard rent service and get me paid.

16:09 And if you had to give me all the other stuff and and I was doing all this service and all that, but I was doing it at the sake of myself.

16:21 And Stella Hamer.

16:24 The alarm service.

16:27 Bushings password. And it makes me wonder if

16:33 She was taken care of so many other people that you've gotten yourself.

16:37 And so,

16:39 SA.

16:40 Yes, it was important. But my rent, I paid $4 to maintain boundaries make somebody's day. Okay, I'm not doing this on Sundays or I'm going to do this during these days or what I can do or this is not working. Can we find another way to do this? So I guess that's my personal goal of boundaries professionally.

17:15 I know you were selected as media specialist of the year. So done so much.

17:24 I'm more like receipt for me. I love the war. Is the receipt of the work accomplished.

17:34 So,

17:36 I'm a Girl Scout and also know their first him and it's a girl. It's got, we grew up in bed, has a list, of course at

17:50 That.

17:52 That ribbon.

17:54 So what I hear about a war to me, that's something to learn based on what I've done is my receipt of showing. Yes, so

18:06 What's selective Muscogee County? School District Library Central to year? And what year was at the house elected to?

18:20 The Reason Music of the year for our region was on West Central, Georgia region in 2018.

18:29 I've been inducted into the Columbus. State University, College of Education Hall of Fame.

18:35 Give me that was in 2019.

18:38 And those are.

18:41 Where to professional Awards.

18:43 Community service this summer. I received the Georgia on My Mind service award from the state of Georgia in National council member women locals surf, the wards from

19:00 The Alpha Kappa Alpha, sorority gamma Phi, Omega chapter.

19:05 Chapter 4.

19:10 Sorority sister of the Year, forget what year and also and 2003-4 initiate the Juneteenth celebration.

19:20 And then from the girl, manga chapters, I received the award.

19:27 For service as well.

19:29 And from the 88 out, a check without an undergrad, Oklahoma State University. Are we see the sword story sister of the year. I received three awards from from the three local chapter for the Alpha Kappa. Alpha sorority.

19:44 So, the akas is a big, big part of your life, right? Little bit about that. And why, and how did you select the AKA sorority coming from Jeremy on Military Trail that I deal about sororities, really?

20:02 Start school over said, he's not sure I came to Columbus. My junior high school.

20:10 And I remember.

20:12 Think it's a Senior High School win. A Jameson went to space and space and some of the events at the

20:25 Civic Center during the classics, but I remember,

20:30 Is the person who made me think about this word e is because she took the flag into safer, but you're a space or press conference.

20:43 The extra to talk about her time and before she even starts out with her time. She talked about how many seconds you have in a day. It was like seeing you all eyes were on her and she took that time to encourage other people to say, you know, you got this many seconds in a day.

21:00 I wish you could you call a second recall that money, but don't let other people take away from it. And it didn't care about. What's it like going to say to you is like talking about this, the second you having today and making it a second time. So

21:24 Free music, who was the president of, I didn't know, until I was interested, but I do my English teacher.

21:41 And we did Heritage Bowl, where we have to study questions and

21:47 And such about history and it's funny because I guess.

21:56 The laughing cuz now for homecoming. First, I can easily learn history.

22:01 But at the time, we came out, my team came in fifth place and I was probably on my first trophy, but my to I'm teammates were both athletes and their likes. His place was that cuz I got two because they did, I went and saw what I got to Columbus State. And I had the opportunity to come a member of Pokemon and

22:33 Bob's at Columbus State.

22:35 I was the corresponding secretary and vice president of the Shafter.

22:41 Am I worth 46 for the year?

22:44 And,

22:46 Did I transfer to get a massage after? And I was corresponding secretary quarter secretary?

22:54 I have some other but I want to take the board for.

23:00 For many years are in a bowl of chapters and go to different different hospice as well.

23:06 Okay, great. I'll tell me how would you like for people to remember you. Sky? Oh, well.

23:14 As someone who was, who loves and lightning power other people.

23:22 But also someone who you couldn't, they don't lock that, you do that, you can take advantage of

23:31 Tell me about the one of the most important people in your life.

23:37 You might have more than one.

23:44 Wow.

23:47 That's a lot. That's a lot of big question.

23:51 Family, they keep me grounded Because of Who You Are.

23:59 You know you like I do this at work in this is working a child's like they're crying, so grounded so he keeps me from thinking.

24:20 He's going to do, but he's a three-year-old.

24:25 And they also keep me encouraged to try new things. And I know I have a safe place to go 15 December. So I'm getting me some, he's 14 and

24:42 Around 10 months. Does he have any idea what he wants to be when he grows up College Tour?

24:55 Okay, is that we walk around? So I will go to the college. It just happens to be that way sometimes.

25:06 Due to the Space Center.

25:08 We went to Alabama and him.

25:12 So, we went to Nashville, went to Fisk in Tennessee State. Very good. Very good on that. Future Generations, may hear this recording is that some wisdom or advice you would like to share with them?

25:39 You going to?

25:41 Don't let Perfection get in the way of progress.

25:43 Don't let Perfection get in the way of progress.

25:47 There's a lot of times that

25:50 I know what I was doing until I did it. I started out and I found out and I found a way to make it happen.

25:59 SMS over the years. I've been, because somewhere more, I've been less afraid to fail. That's afraid to fail. If it doesn't work. I'll look at it. When I did was try to Harmony people. So not saying do something that harms other people, but yourself and put yourself in danger, but it's okay to try new things in and not, and not trying and wait till it's all set in stone all lined up before you attempt to do some things.

26:35 You know, I want to ask you a question. This got to know, like I said, you partner. We partner with the military library to bring about awareness for the Juneteenth, the black history, and full of the Kwanzaa program. Now, where do you get that? Have you ever attended? I want these programs before doing the program to Atlanta at the library cuz I know you mentioned when we were doing the program. You mentioned something about the Red soda pop and you seem to have all the information about Kwanzaa and June team. What's up a whole lot in 2003,

27:19 I had only heard of June 20th. You had not heard of it. All. I all I really want to say something, Texas and what's worse is she said I want to have a a western dance and some rest of us have June to you. Cuz I'm going to have a cultural something through. If I do if I do something and is over the years, to learn more about June 25th, and I'm going to interview with the TV station and it was doing an interview when we talked about in 1937, 18th. 1863 and

27:59 Juneteenth + 865. I realize that

28:05 Different methods of the Civil War.

28:19 Easier to learn more in 2015.

28:24 Since I was 150 anniversary of the assassination of general order. Number 3,

28:36 I went to Galveston, Texas in 2015 to Text Aaron and I had no idea. I saw they had a program that weekend that went to the program different settings.

28:56 Friday morning.

28:59 They had the.

29:03 The breakfast and do the breakfast.

29:07 Purpose of, Sheila, Li the one, the rights, and it actually, I'm not sure she has something else. She said,

29:25 Make sure that you have any women, hold up. I don't remember. And that wasn't was like

29:32 Twitter for me. What was it about? The watermelon, watermelon, it was red.

29:42 Stop the alarm in the public, really because of the stereotype of watermelon. And so there's something wrong mean water bill is because it's so healthy for, you know, this isn't natural body cleaner. So

30:03 So, that was

30:06 Indian red. Pop. I know you mentioned a lot about the red pop and the vanilla ice cream also. So what?

30:16 For the Red Top was is a red soda, and that was something then texted. They had the Big Red soda and vanilla ice cream.

30:26 Built-in umbrella from AJ. She read somewhere about

30:36 Vanilla ice cream on Fourth of July celebration.

30:48 And so on.

30:52 That part kind of stood out to me for the celebration. So Juneteenth was like another

30:57 I called to start another Freedom marker. I know when you did the program here and we will you share that information with us. And a lot of us had not heard that and it was enlightening. So well, thank you for all that you do. And we'll just, you know, be and debatable to share programs like that. Without Community. We really appreciate that. Justin, like the community and what you like for your legacy to be. The sky filled. What would you like for me to leave here on this Earth?

31:40 I would like for people to.

31:42 Keep trying to learn with his legacy of learning and always learning more.

31:51 I forgot learn how to advocate for yourself cuz I did for myself, but I've learned that paid for myself. My okay for myself. I felt other people have to pay for themselves as well. Then you say that they start staying up, you know, they take a stand and just say no more. I'm going to stand up for myself. I saw her. Do it.

32:17 And,

32:19 I'm not sure where it came from, like when it started or

32:26 Maybe, you know just like areas. If you want to leave you with colleagues with my meetings for today. They taught me how to say yes, but no. Yes, but no. Yes, I would do that if I had such and such but I would love to do that. If you give me this to do, if you have, if you give me. Yes, I would love to buy this car. If I even give you the money to pay for it. Yes, I will look so I learned. So they taught me how to

33:03 Stand up for myself. Anyways, I had talked for like I said before over and over that story about Star Wars of the Remi pay. And

33:13 You should be serving all that that I never thought about selling myself. It was always about things for other people care for and they told me they show me how to care for myself as well as Scott. Can you tell me? What does Kim Tober mean to follow somebody in a program?

33:46 That's it, just happened in that was probably 2012. Is when I start thinking sober.

33:58 And and how I say it. So much. Kim told her that two friends made of shirts. For me before she comes over on it. Really, you do it. Collecting such thing. I added to Metro care products for this year. For Kim told her I changed it. I asked you was going to my

34:30 Is it to the doctor Kimberly? Scott scholarship endowment fund? I had a State University because something on TV but doing stop drives and mr. Care product drives and such that.

34:41 That I guess my legacy. You said just look around, see what's up? And then find something to do with make it better. Like I saw a need for socks and I started talk dry ice or heat for a mystery care products. 14x people look around and decide how the weather going to do to make it better for yourself or other people that you can make a difference. Yes. Yes. So, how did your family? What did your family say about cam?

35:22 What is Willie and King? Say about hunting again?

35:27 Really thinks I'm the greatest thing. Everything's I can do almost anything. I like, you know, I'm still human, right?

35:38 King of you. I was on the listen to my sister on the phone other than he doesn't think he can t take care of it. Sometimes you a call and he

35:47 And he just talkin talkin talkin talkin and also to have a year for him. So he's going to share with me what's going on and your mom and your sister years ago.

36:08 And my sister, if she comes to me when

36:14 Chi-Chi's, sometimes. She thinks I'm on water and other times, she just thinks I don't know if I care about. Thank you so much for sharing your life. And your legacy with me here at the Mills at Ontario Library. And like I said, earlier that we can continue to partner and share programs like our Kwanzaa program, like the black history and the Juneteenth program. We're looking for where we now. We are in October so we have about two more months before we get into Kwanzaa and we're going to celebrate Kwanzaa. I think on the 26th of it starts on the 26th of December. I stick with you that you are.

37:12 Our problems are our founding. We are each other's business. We are together. We can write. Thank you. Thank you so much.

37:34 You make my heart smile. Thank you. Thank you for all you do.