Lisa Kettyle and Russell Pickavance II
Recorded
December 9, 2020
Archived
December 9, 2020
53:18 minutes
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Id:
mby020261
Description
Friends Lisa Kettyle (42) and Russell Pickavance II (43) remember the first time they met and share their hopes for humanity.Subject Log / Time Code
RP asks LK when and where they first met. LK shares that they met in 1998 in a classic American diner.
RP talks about their backpacking experiment and nomadic lifestyle.
RP asks LK if they remembered how long it took before they told LK they needed to move to Austin, Texas. LK remembers it was within two days of meeting.
RP shares that it took LK almost a decade to move to Austin and asks LK why it took so long for them to move there.
LK: "It's hard to make a jump when you have 17 chickens."
LK asks RP where they see themselves as their kids grow up.
RP asks LK where they will be 10 or 20 years from now. LK shares that their hope is that in 20 years they feel that they've made some kind of difference.
RP talks about having a lot of optimism for society.
LK talks about RP speaking publicly about their hopes and aspirations for the world. LK asks RP if in 20 years they will still feel the same.
RP talks about Gen X and how computers forced people to change.
LK talks about change and how diverse groups are working together to create change.
RP talks about a social experiment they conducted.
RP talks about compassion.
LK shares a story about a painting they have that says: "Do not let your talents get lost in obligation." LK talks about letting go of obligation and realizing a lot of obligations are self-made.
RP talks about obligations and talents.
RP asks LK if they are still optimists. LK shares that they still feel like an optimist. LK: "I feel hopeful for the future. I'm hopeful for the year 2021."
RP shares that they are still an optimist and talks about a Democratic coup. RP: "I hope that we remain vigilant in our optimism so that we can be prepared to do the hard thing when the time comes."
RP tells LK that they are proud of them and feel happy to be a part of their journey. LK shares that they would have never moved to Austin, Texas if it hadn't been for RP.
LK talks about their chickens and their future plans.
RP asks LK where they want to go after the pandemic. LK shares that they want to throw a potluck birthday party for everyone. RP shares that they would like to go to Chile and ride bikes.
Participants
- Lisa Kettyle
- Russell Pickavance II