David Sisco and Teaira Sisco

Recorded December 10, 2005 Archived December 10, 2005 41:28 minutes
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Man talks tells the story of how he became a knight in the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA).

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  • David Sisco
  • Teaira Sisco

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00:09 My name is teaira Sisco. I am 28 today is December 10th 2005. I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I am interviewing my husband.

00:20 I am here at formation husband David Sisco. I'm 35 years old as of 6 days ago. It's December 10th wearing Sin City Las Vegas, Nevada. And it's beautiful lady is my wife.

00:33 So I'm was wondering who your favorite hero is a couple.

00:42 But I think the one that has influenced me the most to be Duke Sean.

00:54 Sean Oppenheimer

00:57 Is a great man he?

01:01 He helped me through a lot of lot of stuff in my life that I probably could have got through without him.

01:11 I never really told him how much he's impacted my life.

01:15 Better

01:19 He's a friend. He's a role model is what I wanted to be. Why did you meet him for Creative anachronism medieval re-enactment Society?

01:32 And started 1966 in Berkeley, California. I believe I can do to fix hope so

01:42 One of those physical aspects of the society is the armor heavy combat.

01:51 And through that it's a

01:54 Full speed for contact mixed martial arts

01:59 Would you wear that medieval armor and go out and hit each other basically with sticks, but it also he just lied about honor and chivalry and there's a lot of stuff off the field.

02:10 And John has a dude. He's been King at least two times and you become king by right of arms, and then you win the crown tournament.

02:23 Anna and I actually met him in

02:28 When I brake my shoulder 1995.

02:37 I met him in an event that we were both at Adventure so we can get together.

02:42 It was a little Anarchy no more keeping the world currently is divided into 18 kingdoms, Emily and Border, Skirmish and

02:55 He was talking to everyone talk and everybody. I'm just hanging out and Sean making somebody's name who I met when I first started yesterday in the 1991 Challenger.

03:09 Early 80s

03:12 Milady's and I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that guy who just talked about you looked at me like how long have you been playing my kind of laughed and told him can we pay my going to goes where you from? I'm from my Billings Montana. That's where you live. I asked where you from and kept in Florida. So yeah, I didn't think you were from around here.

03:36 Sounds first time ever really you've sat down and talked a little bit.

03:48 B we just start talking after that

03:52 To have to be a knight is a pretty big deal in the NCAA the shows that it's the equivalent of a black belt.

04:01 In martial arts

04:04 And that was one of my goals. I want to be knighted. I just didn't know how or what to do, He was already and I John is the only man in the sea to ever be knighted at the age of 16. He's the reason why there's a rule that you have to be 18 to be a night now cuz it cost such a

04:25 Hissy fit. Yeah up Roar isn't the kind word?

04:32 Anna

04:35 So it sounds like known far and when I do TSA.

04:39 And I want to be night and I'd what is your house? So when one night at Estrella War which is take place every February Presidents Day weekend Valentine's Day weekend somewhere in there.

04:54 A nursery in between 7500 and 10000 people there for you a thousand fifteen hundred fighters on feel. That's great. We're there for a week and one night during the war and back in 96. I went to him and I said okay, but I got to be tonight.

05:15 Not let people do that. Not all people come right for us and say I'm just going to want I'm not sure how to get it, but you already have it. So how you do it?

05:24 Anna

05:26 So you start talking after that?

05:30 Buy Nexus real invite me to his house and

05:36 That was in 97.

05:39 How's my alarms for couple months? He's fired me the next. June.

05:46 And then

05:49 In 2002. I was knighted the first night of his household was first one of his wife one of the boys to be knighted.

05:58 So, how did your journey tonight It Go?

06:05 And long and bumpy road

06:10 I was not the model Squier by any stretch of the imagination. I was not the model student for one child lived in Salt Lake City, and we lived in Billings Montana the time.

06:24 Which means I would say Sean.

06:28 Two times a year three times a year most maybe four if we were absolutely lucky how to get to find out when I get to work with him. Maybe two three four times a year.

06:38 How often did you fight during the year when you can 16 I want me too, but

06:55 We had fighter practice at least once a week and most weeks I showed up again. That's really important. Great continue with me and John.

07:07 But what we would do is we talk on the phone and he taught me how to fight how to fight with a different kind of salad never fought before over the phone from 10 hours away. So I'd have all these little scribbles and all these little drawings of you different footwork and different shots and all these notes and lists and my wife my girlfriend at the time would just look at them and think it was just some Arcane chickens.

07:41 But that's where you're going to break the window.

07:45 I got my thyroid in the house.

07:47 Show me a shopping mall story for another trailer.

07:56 So the other dog fight you don't usually do I tried to fight at least once a week. I wasn't doing that. I was doing trying to do slow work. We have time to call a pal which is a striking surface. Basically. It's any tall object that you can wrap some home around and hit with ear your stake your sword to work on muscle memory and sort Siri and have your shoulder. Can I move and how you're 16 with how everything to flow Sean is a big believer in this and I'm not

08:34 Understatement, which again is a point of a contention. I believe that if I was ever attacked by a tree I would know how to defend myself. If only I had the proper techniques. I believe it's take time. I believe just getting out there and throw down Sean is a big believer in Powell work and wood.

08:56 Describe it to me and I never did it ever. I think I'm a hit of hell. I would find some 91 and 2005. I think I may have met who hit it, honestly.

09:09 For x. 4 days just for individual time total, which I don't think I ever told you how but he's going to hear about this.

09:20 CA at his training on hit his Training Method is different from my learning method but it says it was interesting. It was a very

09:34 When's it was really a long road it?

09:37 Is only 5 years.

09:41 There are times where I felt like it had been forever and looking back it and I know that it really wasn't that long.

09:51 There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

09:56 And

09:58 When I first started I was showing the past Sean showed me that this is what you do. This is how to do it. This is how to become a knight.

10:08 But I didn't start walking it for a couple years.

10:13 Why do you think you had a hard time walking the path for another trailer?

10:24 That whole rebellious. I don't want anyone to tell me what to do. You know, you're asking for help me which I think Sean realized quickly into our relationship that if I have to drag him out. I feel beat him senseless. Maybe he'll understand it and it seemed to work really well.

10:50 You take me out saying I'm going to shout I was telling you about. Yeah, well here it is hoping they're not block it.

10:56 And you hit me with it once or twice and go, okay.

11:00 Okay, I understand that work now, okay.

11:04 So, why was that so difficult. Wow?

11:13 Cuz he literally gave me just enough rope to hang myself with he would let me go off.

11:18 And find trouble wherever I was to find it, but if I got myself into it, I was on my own.

11:27 But I always knew that if I I was too far into it. He'll be right there.

11:33 To bail me out with it. I kind word or whatever. I needed to hear. He was also really good at keeping my ego and check Ana.

11:47 Because even before I was I was fired to him people come up to me all we are going to be night soon. You're going to be nice and blah blah blah blah blah and they tow lot of people this and some people believe them. I'm some people believe your own press clippings and I never did I always I was able to keep things. Do you know what they say in what's really there and

12:15 Sean also helped out without a great deal by just keeping my ego and check, you know, if if I go out and have a good tournament. He said yeah, you know, you deserve to make the quarterfinals of the tournament. Did you fight well enough to make the cord front of that tournament?

12:33 And I sometimes I would say yes I did and I fought as good as I could that day. I was that was all I had other days it would be no. I got lucky.

12:46 I decided that I should have done this so he wouldn't say you're no good. You're no good. He would say are you as good as people say you are and my answer is always right now.

12:58 Because

13:01 I wasn't trying to live up to other people's expectations. I was trying look up to his.

13:06 And I really care what other people said What mattered was what he said for longest time. We're going to people who have their opinions won't three my mom but too many people live in with my life is opinion that mattered pretty much over by Elsa's minutes my lovely interviewing wife.

13:31 And so I never tried to

13:35 Cuz I'd rather people I wanted to why do we write in his eyes to?

13:44 So what was the funnest part about your journey?

13:48 I only have 40 minutes running.

13:52 Other finest card man, you mean like a individual thing?

14:05 Sad thing about this is the funniest moment Sean wasn't there for none of the nights were therefore it was stranded 2001.

14:16 And

14:18 Finances are tough. Everybody had like $12 for things to do. We just got done with the year 2000 which was it.

14:27 Disaster in the air

14:31 Anna images of the task for everybody for 2001 February

14:38 A lot of a nice didn't make it to war only I think like 4454 my whole Kingdom made it a lot of spiders did because you can't we do it on there to do show off and we do so basically, you know, Aaliyah

14:57 The unveiled sad because when you're not you get to wipe out of Purity that gold chain of unbroken fealty and Spurs would give you the right to ride horse in the king's name and dispense justice as you see fit.

15:10 Anna

15:14 Susie if you're not building UConn, it unveiled organ for Squire are made of times are clever bunch of us unbelts just running amuck at this war is like kids in a candy store hopped up on sugar and caffeine and just like

15:32 Monkey hanging from chandeliers and

15:36 So that was a reason we had so much fun at that wore that I myself and now they're Damon one of my best friends. We had so much fun without her nights there that we told them you're told basil is damaged night and went to Sean's best friends is it looked me in such a good time without you guys there. You guys can't go back to the story until we're knighted and

16:03 But what's funny is that that's that started the so-called class of 2002.

16:09 Which from that from that is 3 mm 120.

16:16 Now you're supposed to start 2002.

16:20 I don't know if I still have to do regardless started off before he stepped up his King. He was knighted at that Estrella.

16:31 And then I was not even April William. Kyle is not it in.

16:36 May turn was knighted in June. I got I was not in July.

16:46 Stephen was knighted in August and Damon was knighted in February that wore lived. So in one year.

16:56 Like seven of us were knighted which is unheard of never happened before but we were also closing ability and knowledge and everything that they just got us all done it once it was great and we're still refer to the Class 2002 and

17:12 It was funny because we're I'm laughing with Damon and after he was knighted and at the next war and

17:20 I said wow. Yes, they take a serious and we said that you guys can come back over to her and I didn't well, okay then come back.

17:29 So tell us about your knighting ceremony with the help of the ever made your lovely wife sitting across from me.

17:47 Sean likes to the surprise. He likes seeing how people react truthfully.

17:56 Anna

17:58 Then I scripted things. So he likes likes to know how people are going to react to certain situation.

18:04 Anna

18:06 Travis Vance there is I just say the word if there's a hundred people there.

18:11 There were 98 people that knew that I was going to be knighted. I was not one of them.

18:20 At the time we were laughing interviewed for a job in Oregon interview for job in California. And so they were some concerns that we might be leaving the Kingdom. So I didn't find the Crown lift kits in case anything went wrong or went right that day, and I don't know.

18:45 So

18:47 So did find that the tournament but I was just beyond hanging around and you talking everybody what they were fighting and you helping them get David fired up basically just kind of wrapping a string around my little psycho top print David before every fighting giving you a real heart pulled spending them off ended.

19:05 Got to feel bad about doing sometimes with me and it's a lot of fun taking him on people. They don't know what I'm doing. But so the ceremony background.

19:18 At the end of 97 money in NCAA

19:23 At the are depending on the ceremony and situation you are you have three people stand up and speak for you one person who represents our you can have it more than I guess that one person who represents the Royal. There'll be a pastor present and one member from each of the three orders of. The knights The Laurels witches Arts and Sciences and the Pelicans service. Okay by people stand up speakers as well. And I knew I was getting close. I knew it was coming, but

19:58 I didn't know when and

20:12 Are there is one in particular message Morgan of hawks reach?

20:17 Shoot

20:19 I wanted her to be part of my ceremony.

20:22 Because Morgan mortgage great lady and

20:28 She she fought but she couldn't find a lot of kind of kind of older but

20:35 She's had really bad knees so she could fight as much or as hard as she might want to and for that she would never get the recognition of a night, but she's getting recognition for all the for the services have to be done cuz you done lost African Kingdom, but

20:56 Every past Morgan she was she was the first person I ever thought out in out of the Shire out of the group. I fought her in I joined in October 91 and I fought her in like November of 91. She's the first person I ever thought from outside and

21:16 Summit friends for a while and I want her to be my in my my ceremony and she was the other person at the event that didn't know how to be knighted. So I do to her and I told her I said you more than that. I need to speak with you and just make sure I was going on and I told her I said I don't know what's going to happen. But I know it's going to happen to your help that I'm going to be knighted.

21:44 And I want you to speak for me as a pelican.

21:52 Aren't you going to give me a funny? Look at you go to school why me and said well cuz I told her that this isn't meant to offend you in Jackson at 2.

22:06 Are you is that I knew you would never be night on your own circumstances being what they were you just nephews never would.

22:17 And

22:20 It would be a way of giving something to someone.

22:33 Put your heart really was.

22:39 Atlanta

22:45 Summer

22:48 If you waive getting her in a 1970 and having her always be apart mine.

22:55 It was something I felt she deserved cuz it was very worthwhile. She that lot of good stuff.

23:03 And I want you to get an Accolade.

23:08 That's why I wanted to be part of my ceremony.

23:12 And she pretty much what I'm doing now, which is really something cuz she's like 652 big girl.

23:21 And I hit really hard to but

23:25 So

23:27 I've made it through that somehow.

23:33 And I told Jonathan that I have more going to be part of my my ceremony sellers cuz I want you to know when it goes down. He was going to happen and let me know what's going to happen.

23:58 Which bike is Champa I do.

24:09 That night they're doing it was crowned last and everything one and Rhyme or was he has the calvary which is he had seven members of his of his kingdom that basically Frontline shock troops get in causes much total Anarchy and Chaos as you can and make it out.

24:33 Anna he wants you to be part of that. You want to jump the ladies Edge on you. I want you to leave the calvary pick 7. I don't care who picks up. You got to have 7 pick him up and I don't need you on the battlefield at a moment's notice. I was a child take your Calvary destroy that 50 man unit. And yeah, I need you to do it. He said he said that I said, I'd be honored to do it. I just need one favor from you. I got to have my boy.

25:02 And I have rehearsal cubes accidentally got to have to go back. I couldn't pull this off without him at the time. I was on March 07. I was on his guard to protect the king at all times on Battlefield and I was around my Release Me From service from that shows at 7 to be on his calorie to Sean continually refer to me as his number one draft pick so in court clerk Halls up his Cavalry cuz he's releasing information service cuz we're going to be nowhere Wars between Crown last and whenever he steps up as king.

25:38 The red wire you was releasing at me like all except in order and then they release it in reverse order.

25:44 Anna

25:46 Santa bear and a child is going to be in number one draft pick and proud of me and so on and so forth again. I had no clue. It didn't see it coming at all. Some really funny pictures of meteor in the sky and I ran Mar stands up and he had I can't remember the exact words. It was something long lines of a challenges release you from a

26:11 The possibilities of being on a the Cavalry I would never ask you to to you before me and completely responsibilities of the order of chivalry. Something like that over what it was really cool what he said. I need to understand it at the time. No, I just stared at him like he's proud of the second head.

26:34 And there's a picture made my jaw dropped as it sunk in and it's time to look over at me over little boys were no one else. Can you do with a girlfriend? I just think they're getting some really good pictures and just completely to taken off-guard with it all that I've got around me and everyone is cheering. I think I don't want for hearing my wife who had kept a secret from me, which is another story from there. They have your trailer is right there beside me and they dragged me away. They drummer says in the morning. I'll have a question to ask you if you distill your ways to become a knight and take away to drag me off to this my vigil tent where you sit vigil.

27:22 I shot it already told me said that when you see a video or when I said radio.

27:29 I would get to whatever me all I wanted beforehand. And then from that point on it would be bred water and I was just a up all night is not a party. It was not a drunken revelry it was time for reflection and refraction and that's at that that's what it was like, yeah.

27:53 Why do you make me a beautiful night and tunic amazing embroidery and

28:02 I don't wear that Savage one had people talk to me from that was about I guess I have to buy eight 9 at night and I had a steady stream of people coming this week to meet when you 15-20 minutes until about.

28:18 She probably 4 in the morning when I finally you kick him out and

28:25 Where I can't lose everything else there. There's some people can't understand, but it was just just me about 7:30. I've been up for an entire time.

28:36 I need sun is coming up and

28:40 So I went outside and I watch the sun come up every new Day Casting.

28:47 How can I call and about nine people try to come back to the site coming in and talking to me and

28:58 Sean came in in a little while after that after court started and said, okay, we're going to drag you off and do this thing. What was the best advice you. I got so much good advice.

29:13 The one that really stuck with me was kalpana mean from the West.

29:18 Who's like a hyper bunny on?

29:22 Double Espresso, he's just this guy just continuously wired just jumps around but I got to sit still and talk to me and that one lady told me that I'll always remember is at his app.

29:38 He said that he has to be if I remembered my the very first night I ever met and I said Absolutely, I'll always remember did you know him and he said one one one day you going to be somebody's first night. They ever met.

29:54 Just me and forever.

29:56 Anna that's always stuck with me is it you never know how you're going to impact somebody's life how you're going to affect somebody and has a night at the most visible symbol of the sea our Temple.

30:12 We're basically the ambassador's for lack of a better word and to be night like at all times to be to be a knight is what genre of if you want to be a knight be a knight.

30:28 And that that's always been a good way of you keep him trying to keep me in check and keep me being a night has the best advice I got.

30:40 So, how did your wedding ceremony?

30:48 Oh really? Cool.

30:57 We're really funny mowing the back of Court really funny moment. And go over there later.

31:09 Trying to get a reaction called everybody up. I had to speak to people to speak for me.

31:17 And are they would have to have the current king and queen both speak for me the most new good friends of mine and I spoke for me on my way to the whole the speech.

31:33 It's all kind of a blur. Honestly. The other thing the main thing I remember is I remember the dabbing.

31:40 Sweet touch you once

31:43 On each shoulder and then you lied every night with a attaches a sorry State on the top of the head and I'll always remember that always remember that touch cuz as Sean told me said you on from here on out things are going to change.

32:02 And I always remember.

32:05 That touch on the back of my head as starting.

32:09 Which I never would have to get there for one for Sean, which is why he's one of my heroes.

32:17 It means a great deal to me. And I don't know if I've ever really told him how much all I've ever said to him after the knighting and it really all but all I could ever say too much. Thank you. He made me made me a better person.

32:33 It may be the night that I am.

32:37 You made me the man that I am.

32:40 And without him

32:44 My life

32:47 I like i b i y would be the same person that would be as good of a person.

32:54 That would be a good night.

32:57 Is what I was going to be I've always wanted to be

33:01 A night in his eyes and for him to to tell me that.

33:09 One of the best moments of my life.

33:11 I told him once I make this real quick for like a few minutes is one particular mean they were fine and he needed me on this one on one side and I couldn't get there. So I held this one X much beer and challenged minds. Of time and jumps up and he's kind of knew as a pint of beer which Union is only knew for like a minute, but I still have to sign I gave him an application. I was like, whatever do you think I look back at me and whatever just like I'm so proud of him. And so we get done and I

33:53 Sounds kind of kind of laughed. He said well, you know, I am not go out every night and I told him I said that's probably like the one of the two best compliment you could ever give me the best is when you look at me go your night and those other, which way you look at me go tonight, and I was lucky and fortunate enough to have him stay close to me. So close to me.

34:19 Emma life and

34:21 What does being denied mean to you?

34:32 Lady a great party at the end of the movie Kingdom of Heaven.

34:37 Where

34:40 Outer bottom paleo asks Saladin. What is your soul mean to you?

34:46 Antojitos recipe

34:49 Kettering has everything.

34:55 And I can relate to that do the grand scheme of things you do everyday.

35:01 Doesn't mean anything but to the person that you are too impressed with you become the person that you can become a testament to that.

35:12 It means everything.

35:16 And

35:18 I got can't say to you. I can't say thank you enough to Shawn and I can't say that I wouldn't be where I am without him enough. What does it mean if it means everything?

35:32 I wouldn't I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. It's a greatest honor of ever been given a cup of my life. And I said yes, and she pay me.

35:49 I don't I can't even really put it into words. I'll talk to John about this right after I was mad. He should have to feel as and I I'd I still can't put it into words.

35:59 Expletive deleted amazing is the only way I can.

36:09 It's

36:11 It's a great honour. I've been honored and it'll it'll be something I always carry with me to tell Damon is right before you I said How's it different? Like it's two different. I can't explain it. It just different from when I was never have never allowed him again on the battlefield everywhere. I go to stupid why I felt like a beacon for noobs come try and pick you up.

36:40 Please me with a great body count leaves Amazon with a story to get jacked up at night, but

36:47 If people no matter where I go from here till the end of time. What about if I go to Antarctica and when I put on a white belt, I'll get the best find out if somebody which is why I want Anna.

37:03 Make that shot teachings. I'm able to overcome quite a bit, but

37:11 Without his teachings on and off the field. I wouldn't have been prepared to handle what it was to be night. It's it's a big deal. It's a very big deal. It's not just get about right around and drink it all all the time being stupid.

37:27 It's quite a big deal.

37:31 It changes person and

37:34 Without his teachings I would have been would have been ready for it. I'm still not but no we make do.

37:45 Not giving you a good answer. Cuz we're all that time.

37:49 What are the values of Knighthood?

37:54 What time do I have left?

38:00 Why is my head?

38:04 Chivalry

38:07 Be eternally courteous.

38:10 Even if it means doing the wrong thing.

38:13 Sean Morris on ER

38:17 Loyalty

38:25 The courtesy respect

38:31 Values

38:34 Jazz versus the beginning of it around for so long

38:42 I think face.

38:48 Faith In Yourself facing other people face in

38:52 Everything

38:56 Honor treat everyone honorably.

38:59 Is that means are we giving him the Best Buy you can tell me it?

39:10 Chivalry courtesy

39:15 I got can you really put it into words the values that says?

39:24 Better than nose.

39:28 I'm as I believe.

39:30 Honor and loyalty

39:34 Are two big ones chivalry, of course. I want to see ovary mean.

39:50 I like before she already does mean everything.

39:55 Chivalry towards your opponent jewelry towards

39:59 Sean walking down the street

40:02 Again is such an honor and respect treat everyone fairly treat everyone like you want to be treated like you believe that they should be treated like they should be treated in a perfect world weather. This means opening doors for someone giving someone a helping hand in everyday life.

40:26 Not cutting them off in the Marie Laney or whatever.

40:32 Be honorable.

40:36 Be a good person and cheesy, but that's

40:42 I just be the best person you can be. So if you had one thing you could tell Sean to be.

40:50 Thank you.

40:54 That's all I can ever say to.

41:00 Pretty much sums it all up.

41:05 It's so much to do so much to say that's that's all I really have to say.

41:11 To say anything else with with cheap in it.

41:15 It would have to mean it.

41:19 I can say thank you.