Michelle Weber and Ben Pascal
Recorded
November 1, 2023
Archived
November 1, 2023
59:33 minutes
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Id:
osh000066
Description
One Small Step conversation partners Michelle Weber (54), the Chief of Police, and Ben Pascal (46), a Presbyterian minister, sit down in person at the Teton County Library in Jackson, Wyoming. They discuss their upbringings and families, their roles as leaders in the community, and current events like the Israel-Hamas War and the loss of the middle class.Subject Log / Time Code
Ben Pascal (BP) and Michelle Weber (MW) both share their motivations for having this conversation.
BP talks about his children and family.
MW asks about when BP felt called to be a pastor.
BP asks MW about studying criminal justice. MW talks about what she believes are the qualities of a leader.
BP asks MW about when she 1st became aware of politics and MW reflects on growing up in an apolitical family in WY.
MW asks BP the same question, and he shares that growing up he thought of whoever was the president as his hero.
BP talks about being unaffiliated politically because he is a pastor.
MW asks BP about Israel and Palestine. BP talks about traveling there, "When I went there my heart broke."
MW doesn't think her faith influences her politics. She was raised Baptist.
BP adds to how he thinks faith informs how we should live in the world.
When prompted to talk about an issue in the community that concerns them, BP brings up fearing the loss of the middle class. MW talks about her children not being able to owning homes in Teton County.
"What are we going to do about this" BP asks.
MW talks about being a different kind of police officer than most.
BP talks about being seen as ultra progressive and how his open-mindedness is perceived negatively by his congregation.
BP on what makes a good leader.
Participants
- Michelle Weber
- Ben Pascal