Rosie Read and Josh Ziolkowski

Recorded August 30, 2023 Archived August 30, 2023 01:04:59
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Id: osh000046

Description

Rosie Read (44) and Josh Ziolkowski (35) sit down for a One Small Step Conversation in Jackson, Wyoming. As two liberals of varying degrees, they talk about issues of social and economic justice.

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Josh Ziolkowski (JZ) aks Rosie Read (RR) why she wanted to participate in a One Small Step. RR talks about her work in immigration law and the polarization she experiences in her career.
JZ talks about his excitement to have this conversation.
After reading RR's bio, JZ asks her what drew her to immigration law. RR talks about wanting to use her power and privilege to help other with less power and privilege.
RR asks JZ in what way is racial reform the driving force in his life (referencing his bio.)
RR talks about being a vegan for nearly 3 decades and why.
RR asks JZ about how his Christian faith informs and challenges his world view.
JZ talks about the 2016 Presidential Election as a pivotal moment in his life. As it was for RR too.
RR refers to seeing how people can be selfish in their choices and politics.
RR describes her political values: progressive (believes in taxation, reparations) And what shaped them: an innate urge to take care of others. Her childhood in Indiana, being gay in a conservative area. Familial influences from hers and her wife's families.
JZ talks about being politically moderate. Being a middle child who looks for middle ground and wants democracy to be a civil debate: not about winners and losers.
JZ mentions the nuances of living in WY (a conservative state) but in a county that's somewhat progressive.
JZ asks how to balance local need for housing with wildlife conservation and environmentalism coupled with a tourism-based economy. RR wants more governmental authority and control over development. She suggests using public land for housing people instead.
JZ follows up on how local government is playing a role in the conflict of Teton County's wealth disparity. He works at the Jackson Hole Airport strictly with private travel/flights
RR asks JZ about his views on abortion rights in WY.
JZ talks about who he expected RR to be and visa versa. And they both talk about what they will take away from the conversation.

Participants

  • Rosie Read
  • Josh Ziolkowski

Recording Locations

Center for the Arts

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