Mary Hillix and David Reinfurt

00:08 Okay.

00:28 Started recording in the morning.

00:39 Okay, do you want it? Do you want to say hello? And I'll hold. I'll hold it up to you. And then, hello. My name is Mary hillix. Mary Morton. Hillix. I'm sitting here in my living room with my grandson, who's going to record all this? So I can tell my story as much as I can and I'm going to enjoy doing it.

01:01 All right. What do you want me to tell now? David, ask me a question. Well, now now say that I'm David. I'm sitting around my grandmother in St. Joseph, Missouri asking her questions. And I think being here, I'm going to ask her to say one more time, her name and where she's from, just to make sure that we recorded. Okay. I am Mary Morton hillix and I live in St. Joseph Missouri, almost the center of the United States now on the Missouri. River, a beautiful Old Town.

01:33 Is that a? No? That's great. Now I say that during the interview. I'll be calling her Baba outside as I do rather than my grandmother. So, so Baba. Last you the first question.

01:48 Can you describe what it was like growing up in St. Joseph, this town in the middle of the United States. When you were maybe say age 15, you can you describe Baba, Dee's house, and your brothers and sisters in a typical day for apps. I grew up in a big family. There were eight of us. I had a wonderful mother and a wonderful father. And there were eight children lived in the big house had a big yard, wonderful neighborhood. A big front porch for people sat and visited where the neighbors drop by and we visit in the evening. And then the children in the neighborhood would come over to our house and our yard, and we play in the yard play shadow tag, run sheep run.

02:32 I live very close in the very interesting neighborhood. I live too close to a Catholic Convent and during the war during the first world war that Convent was closed. But in the back of the convent, they had a big cemetery and there was a great big cross in the middle of the cemetery. And we would run up there in the evening and play hide and go seek and the big cross in the middle of the cemetery was always home by Ace then later on when the convent was close. Those graves are all moved out to another cemetery and the convent was closed. It was closed during the sub of the war and used as a hospital during the Civil War.

03:16 Our house was not very far away and we had lots of wonderful children in the neighborhood. Our house is pretty much the center of the neighborhood for the children.

03:28 I grew up in the household as I say with brothers and sisters that were eight of us. I had two older brothers and one older sister. They were my half brothers and sisters and then there were five of the younger ones. My father's the mother of my half brothers and sisters died when they were young and so we all kind of grew up together.

03:52 My younger brothers and sisters. We were a handful. I had two brothers, John or Jack as we call them and Joel, but just, we called him and he was a terror. He didn't do anything bad. It was just most of us. And he was so messed with us that when the five of us were little, my father hired a nurse to take care of him, all she had to do. All Miss Kate had to do, was to take care of my brother bud and make sure that he didn't get into Mischief. I can remember one time, one of the typical things he would do.

04:29 A big tree and come down in our yard and they taking it down on the telephone company, decided, they wanted to put up a telephone pole in that hole and so they were out there, one day, digging a hole in the yard and they went out for lunch. So my brother who was just two years older than me. He was about eight or nine years old and jump down in that hole and then he said all maze maze. He always called me maze, maze maze, quick. Go get mother. All I can see. Of course, was his head sticking out. He said the devil's Garden by one leg and pulling me down. Quick, go get my mother course. I was scared to death and thought that really what was happening.

05:15 Another time thing. I can remember and those days just was before the days, people had cars. And mother always wrote the streetcar to go downtown. So I remember one day she started downtown, what do on the streetcar? And she left the boys at home, but we had a colored cook Lola and she was would watch out for the children.

05:39 Well, mother said when she came home and she turned the corner down after she'd gotten off at the streetcar. She looked up and thought a half away. I bought our house was about halfway from the corner. She saw all these children walking around the gutter. On the top of our house was was a three-story house and she was worried that she couldn't figure out what was happening. But she said she's very quietly. Got up so they did not see her coming and she got in the house and she wanted where little it was. And then she heard all the screaming and yelling and little of they had locked little in the pantry and then they went up on the roof to hunt for the balls and they were up there going to the gutter looking for tennis balls.

06:24 Children seem to mind too much. She was a very, very good-natured person. We couldn't have gotten along without Lula, but we had lots of wonderful adventures in our in our neighborhood and growing up in a big family with wonderful parents is about the best thing that can happen to anyone. I would say.

06:42 I'm trying to think of some other funny story, but we have plenty of funny stories happening in our house. I want to ask you about your allowance, your mentioning earlier. So, how, how did you get your mom out? How did you earn your allowance? And well, there were two things. My brother. I remember one of his, his chores, he would have we had a big drawer in the back of pantry back hall Grand. My father said, we never threw out a newspaper away for 5 days. We always kept the weeks but newspaper, so but just got twenty-five cents a week. If he would take all the old newspapers and put them in that drawer, and be sure that they were there and he kept them in order. He got $0.25 a week for doing that.

07:27 My allowance game quite in a different manner.

07:31 In those days, people in st.joe and other towns had kept a cow or a horse or chickens. If you had a big yard, we had a very deep yard and we had a bar and we had a chicken house and we kept a cow in the barn. And then there was a yarn a barnyard where the cows thing and then there was a fence and then it was chicken yard on the other side. And we went down there every day and gather the eggs. Then at night, when my father came home from the office. My father was a lawyer and he would get home around 5 at night. He would go down a Milk, The Cow.

08:10 And my duty was while he was sitting on the little still milking the cow. I was to hold the cow stable to keep it from hitting him in the face, and I got $0.25 a week for doing that. That was my allowance. There were a lot of other things that I can remember. We had a big Garden, my father, loved to garden, and we always had rhubarb and I can still remember going down. And picking those long Reds, text rhubarb and tsunami that tasted so good. We had a place in the backyard where we were allowed to dig over in one side.

08:46 We could dig in there and build caves and then we would dig a hole and put a board over it and cover it up with her and we crawl down in there and those were our caves. I'm surprised my father last night, but he did and then we build tree houses. We had a roll of fries on that side of the yard. That was our play yard and we could build houses in there was we did and then be that way, that long little club houses and then there was an old cherry tree and we could climb into that tree. And we had, we put on plays in that tree. We would charge to Sands and the sometimes we'd only charge you a penny, and the neighbors would come over and buy tickets with print tickets. And then we kiss, we get up and down out of that cherry tree and put on little place and performances and sing songs. And and to save make speeches report, say a poem has, it was quite an experience.

09:45 We had a wonderful childhood growing up.

09:51 I want to move forward just a little bit into.

09:54 Fast forward slightly.

09:58 Into meeting at your husband. And how many years were you married to Papa with the early about 40 years, I think about 40 years before he died. My husband was older than me, and he happened to be a neighbor, and I remember one Halloween as we always did.

10:22 He had his car on the street and we soak the car windows. That was really my first introduction until he chased us and caught us and that we just got to know each other in the neighborhood. And after I went to college while he said he had business there in St. Joseph solo males, and all of the night, after I left College. I came back home and we became engaged or married and has wonderful years. Very, very happy marriage. And then he died a little bit later of cancer, and I've been living in the same house ever since till I'm an old woman now. So what was soaping, Windows soaping, Windows, you soaked his car with a Halloween. We always, we always went out on Halloween in and soap with us. We never did anything bad, but we would go or all around. Everybody did that. I can remember what

11:22 We went to this house not too far away. It was a lovely big ass, an awfully, nice people, but they were kind of expecting us. I think because they were sitting on the porch when we went in. So, we tried to hide what they said, come on in, and they took us in the kitchen, and gave us a glass of cider. And then we went out in the back and they had kind of a cave in the back, and they got a apples. Look horse, waiting to soak their windows. At least helped a lot of windows in the neighborhood and ran Tic Tacs with. We made out of a spool and we would run those on the on people's windows, try to scare him. But this was for General, people did that all over town, always on things on Halloween?

12:05 So then you were married in St. Joseph St. Joseph life, and I've lived in the house. I'm living in now since 1941 and it is now 19 and out 2004. So I've lived in this house that long. So this is really home to me.

12:25 As I guess it's as much as I need to say about my house where I live, but wouldn't had a very happy marriage. And I have one child, one daughter and two grandchildren. And I'm talking to David now, one of my grandchildren, my other granddaughter lives in Columbia, South Carolina, and she's a school teacher and a good one. And I've enjoyed it my Sunday, but it's just been married and he's just brought his new bride to see me and we're having a wonderful time and she's a lovely girl, and David. We've been very fortunate in our family, when our relationships.

13:00 I still have a sister living in town and the assisted living in California. I had a brother who was with the DuPont for years and that he lived in Wilmington, Delaware, and then lived overseas for a while with them. And then, I had a brother who was Associated Press reporter and was killed in the war by the Germans in Czechoslovakia and executed, which was very, it was not right to do. He was not carrying a gun. He was just in a reporter, but he was apparently a killed in a concentration, camp in the Lance Austria. Can you describe the

13:44 The apple pie making Brandon Slovakia and that scenario. While the boys were in, he was with, with 12 men from England and other two Americans, and they were caught in the mountains. They were hiding in the mountains of Czechoslovakia. It was during the uprising German Uprising. And it is, they were there in the winter time and were, it was around Christmas. In fact, it was, it was, they were got there about the 1st of November, I think, and they were out hiding in the shack and a Christmas time. There was a girl in the village. Her name was Maria gallavich and she would go in and bring them food and at Thanksgiving my brother told her how to make an apple pie and she went in and made an apple pie and brought it out to him. They said they never would forget it, but they were there in the mountains until the

14:43 Christmas in the Night Before Christmas apparently somehow someone found out where they were and they were captured by the Germans and taken and they were all killed, all of them, including my brother. And it went through a great deal of torture and so far, my brother had a daughter.

15:03 Who he never saw her. She was born after he went over there and recently, she is grown woman now and has grandchildren of her own. But recently about 3 years ago. She decided that she needed to get over there to see the graves. So you have a closure. She had been over before with her mother and then honored a great many times. She was there once I think when Madeleine Albright was over there even and was at the ceremony but made me that way we called her Mimi. She decided she wanted to go over and see the place at her. See the cemetery where her father was buried course, they weren't buried. They were just dumped into a big hole in the back of their clothes, and she was taken off of them, because that's what the Germans needed.

15:51 But when she got over there, she found that the she went to the Concentration Camp when they have closed the door and made a very wonderful Cemetery out of it. So she feels much better about it. But then she decided that she wanted to stay. And with a consent of her family. She driving the pace car and went back over and stayed for two years and had a wonderful time meeting all the people out of the people who knew her brother, her father and all she got. So don't know them very well. So there's a very close to buy. Of course. They want to go back several of the family. In fact, I'm one of the few people who haven't been over there, but I haven't been able to, I couldn't make myself go, but it's all working out very well, may be as happy and she's back in this country now.

16:39 That's about the story of my family.

16:43 Now, you mention that you're describing. My mom. Your daughter who's a school teacher in and her daughter. My sister is a school teacher and you are also school teacher. Can you describe the circumstances around deciding to teach school when you started to teach school? And how long you talked to him? Well, I didn't I I I got a degree to teach a lot of certificates teaching in Missouri. I went to Lindenwood, College Presbyterian school in St. Louis St. Charles Missouri, but I just got that in case I ever decide to run to do, I had to get some, some kind of an education.

17:22 But as I married instead and never talk, then some years later years later after my daughter was grown, really.

17:31 I was in a meeting of all the board meeting and I was sitting next to the man in the school district to hire teachers and he said they were having such a hard time. Getting teachers teachers or scares? And I laughingly said all I can teach. I had no idea of teaching and he said, are you serious? I said, yes. I've got a degree to teach you what he said. If you are at all interested, I really wish you would talk to me. Well, I really didn't think I was interested, but I came home and said something to my husband, and he nearly died laughing. He said why you could never get up in the morning and they're hard to get to school on time. So that kind of stuff. Thanks for a while. But then missed your call and called me the next year and asked me what I really consider it. And I said well, I don't know if I'll go down and see if that my credentials are. All right, and so I did and they said yes, I could teach you in if in the summer I would go and take a few more courses out of the college.

18:27 So I did and I never enjoyed anything. I said I would teach if I could teach you in the neighborhood School, the fifth grade. That's the only place I wanted to be and he said I'm bringing that fifth grade teacher downtown and if you wanted to go over and if you like it is yours, it's yours. So I taught there for 13 years in the same room, had wonderful students and really it was a wonderful experience. I never enjoyed anything more and I still keep up with some of my students. It's the one of the best thing that ever happened to me. I really enjoyed it.

19:00 Can you tell me about a particularly memorable moment in the classroom? Like what's the weather in in teaching what the weather is the moments that stick out in particular? You were telling me earlier about the sharing your birthday cake with many wonderful students. I had one little boy. I particularly remember he was a little black boy, and I remember one time we were talking about what the there, but they, the children talked about at the dinner table, with their parents. And he said, why? I don't sit down at the table with parents. I don't have a dad. He said, I had my mom goes to the kitchen and makes a pot of stew, and put it on the stove. And whenever we want something to eat. We just go to the pot and get it out.

19:49 And that was awfully hard for me to believe, but that little boy had a birthday. The same day I did. And I took him a piece of my birthday cake to school, and he seemed so pleased to get us. And that night, the doorbell rang. He came to my house and he brought me a piece of bread. All wrapped up in the paper for my birthday. At just something I've never forgotten. I had many wonderful students and I still keep in touch with lots of them.

20:21 Do you miss teaching when you stop teaching?

20:25 But I had to stop teaching because of my husband's illness and course after his death. I would love to have gone back, but I knew I couldn't. I had, I had to take care of my own house in my own on life. So I decided it was time to retire and that's what I did. But I I don't regret it. All the years that I taught I just could have wish it could have lasted a little, while longer.

20:51 Okay, now maybe a little bit brought, arranging question.

20:59 In the broadest of all of all these, what have you learned in your in life? What's, what's something you want to tell us now that you've learned in your life. Well, I guess I've learned a lot in my life going to be wonderful. Life can be sad.

21:15 And that you got to learn to make the most of those situations, because everyone's going to get both those things in their life. There's a new day though, and you need to make a make something of every single day because you grow older faster than you think. You're going to I'm now 91. I can't believe that I can't go on a live forever. You have to, you have to make the most of every day while you're going while you're there, I can say that.

21:46 I've enjoyed my life. I've been very fortunate. I think one of the greatest things that can happen to a person, if the grow up and I have a family with a good mother and father. You have a better time a better chance.

22:03 In life if you have both parents and people who don't have both parents really, are they miss a great deal. I know they can get through but they miss a great deal. If I don't have both parents. I enjoyed my life. I've gotten a lot out of it. I think life is more or less what you make it.

22:25 And you ought to be friends, you need friends. And in order to have friends. You got to be a friend. You need to look at the bright side of life. You have to be kind to people and I think that's one of the most important things. I do think that one of the things that's changing the world today is home life. We don't have families like we used to. And that's making a terrible difference in crime and in all situations in the world. If you can be part of a big family and a happy family, you are indeed very far fortunate but life is wonderful. It can be good and I certainly have been blessed with a good one.

23:11 Can you tell me about when mom was born? How old were you? And

23:16 Wow. Old are you and Mom was more. I think I was about 24 members while he said, would not have to stop. And think how old I was I was about that age. I just had one child and she was an awfully cute little girl. She had a very serious illness when she was little and I had to go up two males and they were wonderful to her up there. She had to, they took care of our problem, right away. And she had fallen to say, she had what they called thrombocytopenia purpura. She had fallen into her room, but what I forgotten hooked as they call it, but she had to share that. She had hurt herself, but they were able to operate on her and she was only five and they only child up there. She had her 5th birthday at Mayo's and all the people would come up to her, and I thought you were such a cute little girl.

24:16 Portugal Dover fun home. It's been healthy ever since that was quite an experience. So for a little girl to go through must have been scary for you all. So it was kind of scary for my husband and I stayed with her and

24:32 She got along very well, she made lots and lots of friends up there. She was with a girl. I thought it was terrible because they were putting her in another room a room with another girl. And I thought she ought to be in a room by herself or they said, no, she has to be in a room with this little girl. Will it seems that the little girl she was with had been badly burned. She had been in a house with their brothers and sisters, while our people will go, her parents were gone, one evening, just for a short while and the house caught on fire. And she went saved all of her brothers and sisters, four of them, got them out of the house when she was badly burned. So she had been at Mayo's for almost a year and course. It was a pet of the hospital. And my daughter was lucky enough to be in the same room with her. So that was one of the great experiences she had and we kept up with that little girl for a long time.

25:26 But I can remember.

25:29 How lucky she was to be in the room when I thought you should have a private room, but it turned out, she was much better off with another child in the room and they could talk back and forth. And this little girl helped her an awful. It was quite an experience.

25:45 So back back to going to college, going to Lindenwood.

25:51 Was it unusual for a, for a woman that at that time to go to, go to college there? And it was a woman's college, you know, it was a very busy. First. The old oldest women's college west of the Mississippi and it was not unusual. No, it was a woman's college. It is now or for both, but it was not thin and I had four, I had two good years there. My sister came down and she had for years there, but I had gone to a junior college in St. Joseph. So I only had two more years. Yes, I studied music. And it was a it was a wonderful experience and my days in college were very, very happy.

26:39 Okay, another another are you doing? Okay? Another broad-ranging question, is mostly well. What are you most proud of? What are you most proud of my most proud of my family? Of course, I'm proud of my daughter and my problem. I was very proud of my husband, and my parents and the family I came from, but I suppose I'm the proudest that I've produced a lovely child who has produced two wonderful children. I think that's my biggest accomplishment in life. Was it difficult having only one child? Was that ever challenging? It wasn't difficult for me. I think, I think it's better to have two children at least and I think my daughter has missed having a a brother.

27:30 But at the same time, she had many, many cousins, and we were very fortunate in that. I have a sister who lived out of on the edge of town, and her children came in town to school, and they drove her in. They drove the children in every day and let them out of the car in front of the school, but the children wanted to work. Walk to school, like the other boys and girls who lived in town. And so those children would after school. So they would come to my house walk home to my house and then their parents would pick them up here. But while they were waiting at my house that were for little cousins and my daughter, they decided to form a club. So the cousins went to the basement of our house and went in the fruit Cellar. Close the door and they formed a little Club and had a club was sick. All the cousins club and through the air has all the cousins have become member.

28:30 Cousins club and I suppose now, there must really be 20 to 30 cousins in that cousins club. And so our family has been very fortunate that all the cousins of kept in touch with each other. And all are very low, very fond of each other. It's been a very happy family, but the little cousins Club has Ray been a most unique and wonderful experience for all the children in the family.

28:59 So,

29:00 After having after having mom were they did you decide not to have another child, or was in that bathroom have any more after that? I don't know. I just, I just nature didn't that was the way it was. I can think of something that I wanted to tell you that happened in our family, that was kind of a funny thing. My father had a client, many years ago, who lived in the East, and when she was an old woman. She said she wanted to come back to St. Joseph. This is where her she had connections are shaped as a cousin. She said, she wanted to die in St. Joseph, and she one of my father to make arrangements for her to live here and die here because she was a woman that way up in her eighties and she was a cripple

29:50 And so, my father made arrangements for her at the hotel and got squeezed the rooms for and she was going to live down there.

29:57 But when she arrived in St. Joseph, she came in early in the morning on the train and it because her rooms would not be ready until afternoon. They brought her to our house for breakfast. And I can remember the men from the station carrying or upstairs in our mother's bedroom for breakfast. And they took her breakfast up to her. Her name was Miss Clark. And when she got up after breakfast, my parents went up to see her and she said, mr. Martin, I like it here. I like your children. I don't intend to leave this house. I want to spend the rest of my life here. I don't want to go to the hotel. Well, there was a house with a five, little children in an older daughter and we only had five bedrooms and 1 bathroom.

30:50 But my father and mother talked it over, I miss clocks and really wanted to stay there and her family had been very good to my father in his younger days when he came to St. Joseph. And he said, well, if that was all right, with mother and Miss Carson, good live with us. And she did, they gave up her, a great big bedroom in the South End of the house and she had to have a nurse and the nurse lives with us and she lived. There she came for breakfast and she stayed for five years before she died. We all loved her. And she loved us. And it was a very happy Arrangement, but it was quite an experience. Cuz I say she came for breakfast and stayed for five years, but, we enjoyed mcglockton. She's now buried, I think in New York.

31:38 I know before you told me ghost stories.

31:42 And I know, I know you have to go stories.

31:45 Give me think of a guy story you want to share. That is true. And I believe every word of us and it was told to me to buy the woman that it actually happened to she was our next door neighbor and a very wonderful woman who was it was religious, but she she wouldn't have told us she believes it herself.

32:07 She said that they haven't done a home. Not very far away from me.

32:12 She had been there. She was ahead of friend that this man was a dentist and had remarried. His first wife had died and he had remarried. And I, his first wife's daughter lived with him, and she was a good friend of the woman, misses Griffin, who live next door to me, who the story who told us the story.

32:34 The man's was going on vacation. So we asked Miss Griffin, if she would come and stay with his daughter, Betty in the house while they were gone. It was a big house, but they had servants and there was no trouble there until mrs. Griffin went over and she said Betty was a girl, who was rather high-strung and nervous and got excited about things and that's why they wanted someone to be with her.

33:00 Don't let Griffin said one night. They were sitting in the living room, waiting for dinner to be served and she was doing some stitching on a, some kind of a piece of embroidery and she needed some more prayer thread. So she was going to go upstairs and get some more thread. And she said she started up the steps to steps at a time and when she got on the landing, she said it was Landing in the back of the landing was a big, a little, a conservator, right, where they had their plants and the window in back of that. So there was a light coming through there. And she said, when she got on the landing she looked up and standing in the doorway of that Conservatory was a woman dressed in white a very tall woman.

33:46 And she said, she had her hand up to her ear. Like she was listening and she was smiling and Miss Griffin was a very calm person and she said, of course, she was startled, but she didn't yell.

33:59 And she said, I took everything I had to run past that woman to go on upstairs.

34:06 And she said, I know now that if I'd spoken to her she would have answered me, but she said I didn't and she said, then they made called up and said that dinner was ready. And I had to go back down that I did not know how I was going to go do it. She said, I got down on my knees and prayed. She said, I've never had such an experience, but she said, I made myself. I couldn't let Betty get excited and I made myself. Go back in the woman was gone.

34:33 What you said that night, we went over to see my parents. I told my parents and they sent the boys home with us at my brothers, came home with us to be sure that everything was all right, and that we didn't say anything to Betty about it. But when her parents came home, my parents told them about it, and they were very upset. They thought I was just saying things.

34:59 Well, sometime later, I was sitting in the living room, sitting upstairs in my bedroom by the window and Betty had gone out to call on some friends, and it was in the summer time. I had been over there visiting with Betty again, and her parents were gone. And I was sitting by the window upstairs and the man was in the yard cutting the grass right below me. And I heard someone come upstairs and I called old buddy. Are you home? And no one answered? So I got up to see in the don, don me that it was Thursday and it was the Mage live day out. And I was in the house by myself and I was sure that someone is gone in the back of the upstairs. And I started back there and then I realized I had never been up there before and I had no business going into those rooms where I never been. So I didn't go.

35:52 But I told her parents about us and they again seemed awfully upset.

35:58 Well, it was a I think of that very night that we were there for dinner and Betty was sitting at the piano, playing the piano, and she could look over the piano out of her in the living room up those stairs and her parents were sitting there, her mother, or stepmother, and father, and

36:20 All of a sudden she screamed and yelled and painted.

36:23 But when she came to, I realize whatever happened, she had looked up those stairs and seen that same woman.

36:32 And her father was real upset. I said I looked at Betty and I said, oh Betty, I know what was wrong, and Betty said, have you seen her too?

36:42 And I said, yes, I've seen her. Well, they got better calm down, and that was all that happened. Some years later.

36:52 I was over Betty's house. We've been out someplace and I was with her.

36:58 And we came back and we went upstairs to see her mother up in the back sitting room and it was a little room in the back of the house.

37:08 That I had never been in before and when we walked in that little sitting room.

37:14 That was a picture over the fireplace in that room. And when I looked up,

37:21 I said, oh, that's the woman I saw on the steps.

37:25 Betty said, yes, that's my mother. That was my mother. She said I've seen her many times.

37:33 That's a true story. The explanation of the story was that Betty's mother mother had live there. The Mother-in-law had live there and win that your daughter died. She moved out and the husband wanted her to stay there, even though he was going to remarry because they were all very friendly, but she said, no, she wanted to move out. And so the story is that she came back to be sure that her granddaughter was, all right, and then when she found out that everything was all right, you never appeared. Again. That's what the stories about ghost or a good true. Ghost story. Is it true? One and I believe every word of it.

38:23 Is there, is there anything that we haven't talked about that? You want to talk about? I can't think of anything. Particularly accepted old agent, is Golden's people seem to think it is. You just have to make the most of it.

38:38 So have fun while you're young keep going, as long as you can go.

38:44 Cousin old age, you'll have something to remember and make many happy memories because that's really what you depend on.

38:52 Okay, that's great.

38:54 Enough.