Rosita Caridi-Miller, Annette Fantanzo, and Sarah Lydon

00:00 So that was a card. I was Jason. I am 32 today's date is August 10th 2015. We are in Rochester New York and I am a librarian.

00:16 I'm Kelly Chapman.

00:18 867

00:21 And then in rester.

00:26 Okay, so I'll start with the questions and I know mr. Kelly's we talked to a bunch of times before. I know you've lived all over the world. Can you tell us which countries you've been to?

00:40 Oh Christ, I've been through.

00:46 Vietnam

00:48 Thailand, Indonesia Singapore, Malaysia, India

00:57 Turkey Afghanistan

01:05 Ecuador

01:09 Chili

01:13 Switzerland

01:15 Harlan

01:19 About it

01:23 And the wood which country would you do you spend the most time in?

01:29 I spent quite a bit of time in Singapore.

01:32 Malaysia

01:35 Vietnam

01:38 And forgot to mention you AR.

01:43 United Arab Emirates Republic

01:49 And then

01:52 Are you doing and then go throughout these various countries? Well.

01:58 I was trying to find myself.

02:01 Trying to find a roots of American Indians.

02:07 Since you're in Rochester the a lot of names of places which are of Sanskrit origin, so I felt

02:22 To go and check in India last date for 2 years.

02:29 And

02:30 Came to find out that the American Indians.

02:35 Descendants of Indians

02:40 Because of the blood Vine

02:43 Did bloodline end?

02:46 India those Indians they are mostly be group.

02:52 And so are the American Indians.

02:57 Hit me up and doesn't change.

03:01 And that's that was our clocks off.

03:06 People from India from North Central and South

03:12 They marched all the way from India to China and through the Bering Strait Alaska and sell down all the way down to South America.

03:27 And even if you go down to South America the natives are there in the jungles, you'll see the bloodline is Big E. They might be be negative Abby Foster.

03:44 All

03:47 So these are the three groups which are prevalent among the American Indians to wait here.

03:55 And that's what made me travel.

03:58 And then what year were you in Afghanistan? And do you remember?

04:02 Crisis was in That 70s Show me the late 70s.

04:15 Well people in Afghanistan they were very friendly. I mean they were accommodating.

04:24 And so are the people in the India?

04:28 When when you go to Asia, generally the people are hospitable, they might do to their house and things like that even make you as an honorable guests in the house preparing the meals for you for either meals to you first before they even a

04:54 So

04:57 My experience was good.

05:03 As far as I travel because I was not a problem child with anyone and for me it was to get to know each other. I think people so what do I do you speak Spanish? What other languages do you speak fluently at a workable level? I do speak Indonesian.

05:25 I do speak.

05:28 Indians in the Indian language is Hindi.

05:37 I understand it raining.

05:41 I understand Gaelic from

05:48 Ireland

05:50 G a e l i c

05:55 I understand Afghanistan.

06:03 I do speak a little bit of Chinese and Vietnamese.

06:09 And understand it.

06:15 What year were you in Vietnam?

06:18 SST 270

06:22 72 update, Vietnam War would have been standing or still going on right? It's still going on. I was in South Carolina.

06:37 Wow, that's more to it than anxiety. Is it down?

06:48 On the upper side of South Vietnam

06:56 And that that's where you learned Vietnamese are right.

07:00 Have you been back since in there? No, I haven't on the country. I had made friends with the South Vietnamese people there and they have been inviting me to come over there and recite because things have changed drastically over there for the better.

07:22 In past decade or so, right? That's right.

07:26 And even to a Singapore cuz he told me I don't know if this was you were there at the same time about the painting place in the 90s that were you there that is it is the same time that that I saw that kid being caned.

07:40 And this is not an ordinary Kenny. I mean these people who can you they are professional cleaners that.

07:51 At Winn-Dixie give you three strikes. It means one strike ghost below the other strike and so on which is like millimeters apart.

08:06 And when it hits you it has your skin. This canning is not an ordinary Kane. These are attend Cannes soaked in water for a few days.

08:21 And when it hits you you bleed and you should end your pee.

08:28 There was this with the kids who are the body spray painted some cars or something and see what he did is he?

08:36 What's a white boy for 1?

08:39 And you are in a society which are yellow skin and you still you stand out like a sore thumb, you know right out there and people will know you where you stay. And in the Edition block was the chief justice living and the Chief Justice was walking back to his house to his condo rather.

09:11 And this kid was a spring on his car graffiti in his car and that's how he got caught he had stolen.

09:24 City properties Richboro road signs like stop signs and one-way Street and all those kind of signs from the streets in his room was lucky of him that he had.

09:41 Heat wasp below age 18

09:45 Otherwise if he was younger than 18 his parents would have got some punishment to

09:51 Cuz they said they were his parents into.

10:03 To be provided by the pounds.

10:07 And this was this wasn't strictly for the ambassador's son. Right? What was

10:21 He was bold enough to say.

10:26 Well, I'll do it again after he hit being caned and the government of Singapore told him you come back again, you'll go back and coughing.

10:39 Santos more about what it would have been the punishments that the various punished is it like he said that I know I've heard no chewing gum no reasons for not chewing gum. What happened is some people

10:56 Being a smart-ass trying to

11:00 Stop the system because they are.

11:04 Railways over there there trains are all automated and one kid for the thing. I'm at the sensor where the train could not move any further.

11:17 Is adult Stone close?

11:20 The train or move

11:21 And the whole city Railway system was shut down because it was automated.

11:29 So that's the reason that they don't allow you to chew gum or bringing any come into the city, but you can go to next door. You know, the country is Malaysia eventually everyone and especially in Singapore.

11:53 People calling as punishments being severe

12:00 I don't think so for simple reason that they are there to prevent.

12:07 Bad things happening

12:11 And this kid was trying to show an example. That is one of the smart smart points.

12:19 Hello there that there is no such thing as doing drugs.

12:24 I remember while I was there it was one Australian.

12:30 Young kid I mean Young and the sense. I'm talking about below 20.

12:36 He had cocaine.

12:38 And it's pocket.

12:40 So he was brainwashed that you know, Asia is a country where you can bright and get away with it.

12:47 Because a third world country.

12:51 Over there

12:54 When he got down before he was getting down they had announced that they have a system that they announced in the airplane itself that if you have any drugs you submitted to us and that would be no charges against you and if the pain Lance on the tarmac

13:13 At the airport if it is on you, it's yours and you'll be faced with maximum sentence. There's no minimum.

13:25 So there's no drug problem.

13:29 I'll do that. You cannot even buy marijuana forget cocaine.

13:37 North alcohol alcohol is available because it's legal and even

13:46 Talking about

13:49 Punishment

13:51 The kids who go to school.

13:56 The time when I was there that I know.

14:00 What do you call the?

14:02 Transportation provided by the schools. They were using the public system public bus. And if you have a bus ticket at that time that bus fare was $0.10 plus currency.

14:18 And a student could ride from one end to the other end with no problems, but if you did throw a ticket on the street.

14:29 That kid was if a compass to see him throwing that ticket you be cited.

14:36 And the citation will go to his school for punishment.

14:41 So you can end that citation does not go out of your records. It remains in your records for the rest of your life that had such a surgery age. You did this. So people are very cautious and they follow the rules are there.

15:01 And Singapore government doesn't want anyone to break those rules, which they have enforced. Just like in a you go down to you AR.

15:12 How the Arab Republic over there is no stealing.

15:17 Look at your hands in public market.

15:21 They chop it off.

15:25 Now you said you would say that it's a harsh punishment, but when you look at the flip side of the coin

15:34 That is not theft over there. You can leave your doors open people do not lock doors. You can leave a million-dollar sitting on your dining room table and it will still be there.

15:49 And when they cut your hands your family dies with you to indirectly because for one family updates the rest of the family will not get a job. What's going to happen to you. Ultimately you are going to die.

16:06 Just like what I caught one handed out to both hands they do both typically. Do you know that this just I didn't know that there was just one hand two hands full things. You cannot see if you do not have a well now look at this here goes through a system in and people know just like here in the story about the kid who was in the south.

16:55 And he shot the cop shot in.

17:03 The kids had two priors already of assaulting.

17:08 Cops 195 lb in weight and is trying to punch the policeman right in his face in his nose and the guy had a bleeding nose.

17:22 What is a policeman supposed to do naturally he is going to shoot him and he was trying to grab his gun. And he's going to shoot him. Please have guns and a republic.

17:37 What is acid like country like Ireland by the cops on was we have guns? Right? Right, you're down for that. What about guns in Singapore there Wells no guns allowed by the cops allowed to carry.

18:00 Like in Singapore you cannot own any narcotics.

18:09 When you go down to Malaysia, of course you can get narcotics over there.

18:15 See that's one country in the world where there is no corruption.

18:21 And the government has been ruling the country for the past 40 50 years.

18:27 It's one party b a p.

18:31 Singapore

18:45 If you are trying to bribe someone over there, I heard they talk about.

18:54 That sound you're not talkin about three three for $5,000 now.

19:01 If you want to if you want to bribe me means you could have drive me 30 years of my salary now, then we are talking.

19:13 That makes sense because it's not worth it for them is the best in the world to the speaker up, right? They do not have any I mean they feel

19:32 If the government is paying them, well, why should they have any second thoughts about taking a brat?

19:40 She just letting you go down to Mexico and are you can drive over there?

19:46 Because the unloading pain, but if they were highly paid they would not.

19:54 How many people is he?

19:57 SPC we hear Americans. We think we live in our own cocoon. We think we are the best and we are superior to others.

20:09 But let me tell you this we have been left behind with our high-and-mighty thoughts.

20:18 Other countries which we used to call them as third world countries there by pastors.

20:28 In the seventies there that time I was there in Singapore event and

20:37 They were automatic flashes of toilets.

20:43 We didn't even have it over here. We just started automatic flashes.

20:52 So how did you end up in in Rochester compare that I don't know well in California, I'm from California and I had invested in housing. My fame had been always in housing sending my sister. So I had excessive money. I sold some property out there and I'll excessive money out more than a million dollars and I had to invest it. Otherwise IRS would take it.

21:27 And guess what? I came to the wrong town.

21:32 This town is just as corrupt. I mean, I would save.

21:37 More corrupted than the third world countries

21:43 I ran into because I lost a number of properties are over here to the city.

21:51 Because of the corruption and their own personal agenda

21:57 I ran into depression it took seven years of my life.

22:04 And

22:06 Coming out of depression now, baby.

22:11 Cuz I was behind in property taxes and water bill in what not. Everything went to hell.

22:21 And I approached the water department because they had shut off my water and tell them look.

22:30 I want you to reinstate my water. They were asking me to give them the full amount as I do not have that kind of money right now with me, but I could make your payments. Are you Vine? Do not have water in the property. How can I rent out a property and as such I'm not able to write out now which means I have to take a legal action against the city of Rochester and the water department and sue them.

23:03 This is just unnecessary to me cuz people have Personal Agenda.

23:11 In the city those who are riding on those chairs.

23:17 If you turn off the water of someone is just basically you are trying to kill the person water is a necessity.

23:27 Mount Whitney

23:29 Without water you cannot survive.

23:34 There's no way you can.

23:37 What the city is doing right now is doing the land grab that was being done in the back old days off USA Susan trying to foreclose on properties, right? That's why you see lots off.

23:58 Vacant Lots

24:01 And a vacant Lots windy cut down. I mean when they tear down the houses on those properties.

24:10 The officials over there that I got in Kickbacks cuz they're saying like they

24:17 They contract out the construction companies to demolish.

24:27 That's why you see a lot of wake him up. But if you the city tries to work with the landlords.

24:36 None should a person like me will pay them but if I do not have the income to pay them, how am I going to pay them if you shut off my water I can arrange it out. I cannot pay you. So basically what they going to do is they going to foreclose on me and

24:54 And I have I have been smart enough.

25:00 Do you beat them that they cannot do it? So they are in a Mexican standoff with me.

25:10 That's all right. You don't provide me in the water. I can tote the water.

25:14 Was that man was towed that it's not me. It's a city.

25:30 Because they have a Personal Agenda if they did not have a Personal Agenda to foreclose on properties. Now what they are going to get by demolishing those properties and making it as an empty lot.

25:48 Either way, they have to wait for one. They cannot them. They cannot rebuild on the property right away. They have to wait between 3 to 4 years before they can rebuild it so that the song again.

26:01 Stabilized

26:06 So they are losing it.

26:09 All around with the Personal Agenda just to grab a few dollars under the table.

26:18 Now, that's a shame.

26:21 City of fishers

26:25 10 to stoop that low in order to ride on the backs of somebody else

26:35 I would not unless the quarter in this city.

26:41 Because of the way they are doing underhanded things and all your all your properties were in the city right now.

26:51 What's in the city of Rochester about 30 properties and 07?

27:05 Saw the other

27:08 They got probably to two properties for me.

27:13 Nothing of it for a minute.

27:18 I had spent.

27:21 $80,000 on rehabbing a property.

27:26 No at the end of the rehabbing the game, they did not even tell me that I have one year that I have to finish all this property and sometimes

27:39 You cannot you cannot finish it in a year unless if you got wanting to finish in a year, which means you have to employ a contractor to do it.

27:49 And here I came to the city with open heart and open hands. I do them look.

27:57 I'll pick up every single property from you.

28:01 Give me a helping hand.

28:05 Let's work together. You have so much of drug problem over here. I will provide the jobs for these drug addicts.

28:14 Teach them the trade how to do things and how

28:18 How to even say hypothetically put a rival on a wall

28:26 A guy who was supposed to be professional

28:32 And I told him I wanted this drywall to be redone on you to tear it out because you know where rewired them walls.

28:43 And when he was installing the drywall, he was installing wrong and when I showed him.

28:54 He was surprised they all this time. I've been working extra hard for nothing.

29:01 See, how many is this that I hear? You got a lot of colored people.

29:09 Who have been doing things their way?

29:12 And when you tell somebody

29:17 Alpha Black nationality

29:22 I'll show you how to do it different. Oh, I know that what the fuck I'm doing. That's why they all.

29:28 I've been doing this for past 30 years.

29:32 You have been doing all this past buddy. Yes wrongly.

29:36 You'll be working harder, but not smarter.

29:40 So that means sugar is like white people would say that to me would you get from this?

29:50 I would put it this way as people who are ignorant.

29:57 You get that comment from them?

30:01 And this one kid he was he had been all his life in jail, and I gave him a job. I told him I teach you how to

30:14 Patch up a hole in a drywall

30:17 He did not know how to sign his name.

30:23 Jason

30:26 He only uses thumbprint when I paid him by check. He uses thumbprint on the check to cash a check.

30:36 So when he came back when I showed him.

30:40 How cold is it at the stop is this?

30:45 Payment

30:49 Oh now I know how to what it called patch a hole in the wall drywall. He was so elated and thankful. Many people is he they do not get a chance.

31:03 When I approached City of Rochester to start such a program and they aren't telling me Oh we get too much of Housing and we do not want.

31:12 To expand on housing. How can you say that to me that you got too much of housing. They are disastrous all over in United States, especially in the song all the time.

31:28 And those people you couldn't wipe them up over here.

31:34 You will have more people a better quality of people working.

31:42 When you have a negative approach from the get-go.

31:47 You're not going to progress you got to have a positive thinking before you can do something. But in this case here, like I told you the

32:01 Officials have got Personal Agenda.

32:09 I was not asking them for anyting.

32:13 All any kind of payment so that I can be on this to teach this program to these people. I was just trying to pick up the people from the street.

32:23 Who was selling the drugs and trying to teach MBA profession by train?

32:30 Wish the city of Rochester Turn Me Now.

32:36 I don't listen to nothing.

32:39 I was just trying to make a progress for the city. You think you're going to stay here in Rochester. Are you going to go I don't think so. I'll I'll go where you going to go back to California, which is my favorite place. At least the weather is better part of California, Los Angeles.

33:01 But at least in Los Angeles

33:05 The weather is not so severe. They are now having droughts and things like that. I have read Craig's there an earthquake is not a real problem Behavior Huskies more of

33:20 Rattling shake when that happens. Everything is going to go then there is no.

33:30 Recourse, but when you have just Rattle and check

33:36 It's not much of a earthquake. If you get a few cracks in your wall and a few jars fell out of the kitchen.

33:45 I don't see that as a problem.

33:48 The problem is really in the South where you have got tornadoes that I call it as a tornado alley all the time.

33:59 Now that's why you really lose lives and property in toenails, but when you have Lyft in, California

34:12 It's mostly just rattling shake what is going to happen then?

34:27 Well if that San Andreas Fault.

34:30 In California opens up then California will become an island.

34:46 Tell you how long you planning to stay in Roth. You going to leave soon or you think you're going to well, I'll be here for about another you.

34:57 And off to bed and I'll be gone.

35:02 To me, it's not worth it. The only thing that's good going on over here is the library system in Rochester.

35:13 Where

35:15 People like me who are single they can go to the library and look up things and get enlighten.

35:29 Many people you know they take

35:35 Library for me personally, I take library. That's a whole other countries public libraries. Like this don't really exist status word swell like in Singapore. They have a very high class Library, you know.

35:55 And

35:57 Other countries they do have them but not

36:00 So much of facilities that are provided over here.

36:09 I was in Singapore all the libraries over there. They were excellent.

36:14 I mean those days it sounds they had computers they already in their libraries you can ask and it's at your fingertips.

36:28 Library is one area where they should promote more things out of here.

36:35 For more individuals not of trying to make money at Louisville Library System, but to promote knowledge.

36:47 And people sometimes of course, it runs both ways people take advantage of the system.

37:00 Being Rochester as a drug invested infested City. They should do Mall.

37:15 Out over here

37:18 I've already lost at this branch and Lincoln Library and Avenue D to bicycles.

37:27 And it is the

37:30 Help that I got from you. Jason to bring my bicycle Tupac into the closet. So that is not stolen. I really really need lockers. Well, like I really think is they need they need to make Provisions for bicycles.

37:55 So that they can pack them as long as and so that people don't steal even though my bicycles were chained.

38:07 But the people are bringing.

38:09 Bolt cutters mikelatos chains and they just write off.

38:19 But that said

38:22 And in fact here they should for what they should install closed-circuit TVs for money does inside. Well what they need is outside inside inside you guys out here. I mean, I don't see how somebody's going to steal a book from the library Here video of people that you dealing with it a button still as difficult wouldn't cause I'm all in a camera is less than $100. I mean to get one.

39:13 And they should have them outside on the street. I mean in front of the library if somebody is to breaking into the library, you have a recording going on as to who did it.

39:26 Where do you buy cat? And I do have you ever had any incidents while you're riding a bike around NE?

39:31 Well, I had a hit-and-run auto accident. This happened on Hudson and

39:41 West Palm

39:44 And nobody noticed anything, but nobody wanted to get involved in my problem.

39:54 I wish my boss I ran down to emergency.

39:58 And guess what the doctor gave me.

40:02 Aspirin the first time and the second time I gained I ran because I was still in a lot of pain she gave me ibuprofen.

40:13 How can I have got good knowledge of medicine? How can aspirin and ibuprofen help you injured area? I do aspirin thins down your blood.

40:30 But you got to relax the muscle first before that asked that blood to go into the muscle to relax it to bring it back to life.

40:45 When I ask them to write me a prescription doctor said I cannot give you that prescription because it's a prohibitive. Is this a drug which is

41:04 That I'm going to be relying on getting addicted to it. I don't think so.

41:11 That's my ex-wife.

41:15 He's a chemist and I was talking to her. She told me.

41:21 Tell the doctor to get you robaxisal r o b a x i s a l.

41:28 And that's a muscle relaxer.

41:32 What it does it that's got one side of the pill is aspirin in the other side is a muscle relaxer help.

41:42 I am somebody who is naive.

41:46 I was able to tell my papa to want to give me.

41:52 To me that's shameful.

41:55 The doctor should know what to give me.

41:59 Not aspirin or ibuprofen

42:07 We've hit the end. Is there anything else you'd like to say before we end?