YH Empress Queen Christina Clement and Vanessa Young

Recorded May 23, 2023 40:59 minutes
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Description

Vanessa Young (33) interviews her friend and Loc Sister YH Empress Queen Christina Clement (43) about her life, her beliefs, and Loc Nation.

Subject Log / Time Code

Vanessa (V) asks Christina (C) about the most significant influences in her life.
V asks C to describe what Loc Nation is.
V asks C about her future hopes for Loc Nation.
V asks C to talk about her spiritual beliefs and background.
V asks C about her family's ethnic background.
V asks C to talk about PTSD and CPTSD.
V asks C how she would like to be remembered.
V asks C to talk about how she got the name Queen.
V asks C to talk about her hopes and dreams.
C talks about obstacles she has overcome and future ones she hopes to overcome.

Participants

  • YH Empress Queen Christina Clement
  • Vanessa Young

Recording Locations

Atlanta History Center

Venue / Recording Kit

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Transcript

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[00:04] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Okay. My name is Christina Clement. I identify as your Highness Empress Queen Clement. I have one birth date, but to count age, it will be around 43 years old. Today's date is Tuesday, May 23, 2023. I am at Story Corpse Atlanta. And I am with my Lock sister, Vanessa Young. And again, she is my Lock sister.

[00:35] VANESSA YOUNG: My name is Vanessa. My age is 33. Today's date is Tuesday, May 23, 2023. I am at Storycorp atlanta, and the name of my interview partner is queen. That's what I just call her. And relationship is Lock sister. So, Queen, who has been the biggest influence on your life, and what lessons did. What did that teach you?

[01:09] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I feel like the biggest influence for me is everyone, actually, because as I went through the journey of life, I realized that we learned from everything, and life is already designed, so each person that we come into contact with, they are influential in terms of lessons and blessings of life, period. The ones that I would say is super influential are the ones that I constantly think of, like my parents or like friends. Locked families. Right. I feel like just in the salon itself, just meeting everybody was super helpful in my personal journey. I was like, so green, or what they call green. So being able to ask questions and hearing other people's experiences and stuff like that really was able to help my mental get out of this cycle of unknowing. And just really, I was able to put just two and two things together.

[02:14] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay, I'm going to ask you two questions. What is the happiest and the saddest moment of your life in your Lock journey?

[02:26] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: The happiest moment of my Lock journey, I would have to say, is just the freedom behind it and just knowing how it's linked to my lineage, for real, with the tribe of Dan and Benjamin, and how through centuries, it always been there. And just giving me that foundation of not knowing where you belong to or what group you belong to, and just knowing that, damn, this is the only thing that resonates with me for real. And just that allowed me to look deeper into my history and realize, yeah, this is where it is for real. Which led into the book revealed the kingdom of locks. Nazirite vow continues.

[03:12] VANESSA YOUNG: Yes.

[03:13] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: The saddest part, I would have to say, is it opened my eyes also to a lot of the grievances that our people go through, all the discriminations that we do go through, but we are such a peaceful people that we go through it, and it's just like, ah, we leave well enough alone. Let's figure out the next thing, because we just want to preserve our peace. But it just is a thing that should just not happen, period, because it's really our spiritual artifact, honestly. And I just don't think enough people know that. So that just happened to be the saddest part for me.

[03:54] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah. And can you explain what Lock nation is and what you refer to as lockes for those people who may not know?

[04:06] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Okay, so locks is a spiritual vow. What the negative name for it that's known or more commonly used is dreadlocks. But there's nothing dreadful about our locks. It's actually linked to our spirituality. And for people who read the Bible, it's referred to as the Nazarite vow, and it's just not a one group type of thing. Anyone who can take that Nazarite vow, and it's just a commitment of not conforming with society's ways and allowing your hair to be. But it's more than hair. It's our spiritual antennas. And the longer that it gets, the more in tune that you become, the more knowledge you obtain. And there is a real spiritual journey that happens when we have our locks that I don't believe a lot of people understand because they're not going through the process. But everyone who has gone through the process understands that journey towards peace and being in alignment with the creator. Right? So I don't. I stand on that. It should not be treated in a negative way, because this is, again, our spiritual artifact.

[05:22] VANESSA YOUNG: And what are your hopes for the future of Lock nation and for the children of Loc nation?

[05:29] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: So, as you know, we are in the process of making it a state for real. So state of Loc nation is a real thing. Lock Community association is a real thing. And building that awareness of that Lockes is our artifact of faith. And actually being a state where we have a community we can go to, and everybody doesn't have to be individual, because as I talk to a lot of our Lock brothers and sisters, they all really kind of feel like it's an individual thing that they're going through. And just because I speak to so many, I realize we're all one of the same. I'm like, I gotta put a barbecue together and bring everybody together, because we all the same people, right? But it would just be so much easier if we just had that one location to call home. So no matter what you're going through, like, we'll be peaceful together collectively, and we can practice our culture together, we can practice our yoga together. We can be in nature together, because we're just a family driven type of people.

[06:36] VANESSA YOUNG: Speaking of family, I know that with some of our conversations, there is a person that you would love to interview if they were living or if they were dead. Not a celebrity, necessarily, but tell us who that person would be and why.

[06:55] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Who I would love to interview. I would say a lot of our Lock elders that are up. There's one particular that is in Jamaica, up in blue mountains, and he is a vegetarian. But the amount of wisdom, because the longer your locks are really spiritual, and to take it more all the way back, to say, if we go into biblical times, I would love to interview Hushim which they also now call her. Right. I believe that she is the strength and the wealth to the lineage, because back then, you know, the story goes, if you cheat on your husband, they stoned you to death. But she happened to be. She happened to come out of the tribe of Dan and get into the tribe of Benjamin, have a kid with Benjamin, and have a kid with Benjamin's son, but they just divorced her. But she carried the seed of King David, King Solomon, all of them. Right. So I would love to know what that story is and was for her, and because I feel like she just kept the whole tribe together, you know? So I would love to know what that was okay for her.

[08:22] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah, yeah. Right, right. I think she's black. Sisters everywhere, I try to tell you, hold people together.

[08:33] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: She was holding it down. Two of them.

[08:37] VANESSA YOUNG: So how would you describe. How would you describe yourself, and how would you describe me?

[08:43] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: How would I describe. I'll start with you.

[08:46] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay.

[08:47] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: You are like a ray of sunshine. Very bubbly, very wise, loving. I feel like you're close to spirituality because it takes a childlike spirit to be there, and it takes a brave person to still be that. Right. Especially for African Americans, you know, that we're under this stigma of having to be strong and having to fit this image and all that, and you're like, nope, this is me. I'm here. Hey, guys. You know, and laughter is good for the soul, and to be able to promote that for people is a blessing in itself, angelic in its own way. You know what I'm saying? Tissue. Right.

[09:38] VANESSA YOUNG: It's time. Now.

[09:41] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: You.

[09:41] VANESSA YOUNG: How would you describe you, queen, lord?

[09:43] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I don't know, honestly. I just am that I am. How would I describe me? I think a lot. I love information. I love people. I love to be authentic. I love to be in my head. I built a friendship with the creator, and for that, I feel like he allowed me to be a messenger of his word, and that's why I'm so surprised and honored for this book, because if I was to try to rewrite it, I don't know if it would come out the same, honestly. But I remember waking up and you know what? I really. I just love being authentic. I'll put it like that. Cause I can ramble on, but I just love being authentic. And I just love just being a messenger for the people, honestly. Yeah.

[10:39] VANESSA YOUNG: And I say a leader as well. I don't know if you added that part on there. Well, queen, you are a leader, whether you like it or nothing.

[10:50] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I just do what I can, honestly.

[10:53] VANESSA YOUNG: Can you tell. Tell me more about your religious beliefs, your spiritual beliefs, and what is your religion? Or what do you consider your religion?

[11:01] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I was raised as a Jehovah witness. Both sides of my grandfather's. Like, my mom's side and my dad's side. They both were pastors. They both was named Goody, believe it or not, like, that was their nickname. So I'm like, wow, great. So I'm not, like, corny, you know? But in my. I like to be authentic, and I like to. You know, I went not to throw shade on any religion because I think it resonates with each person its own way. And because in the scripture, it said your only rule was to love God with your whole mind, soul, and body and love your neighbor the same. I just never understood the division between all the religions. So I'm able to listen to whatever resonates with me, with each one. But I will have to say that I follow the Nazarete vow. I am spiritual. I focus on creating in alignment with the creator. I try not to move without speaking to him first. Right. And being still. And I like to get stuff done, like, today. Right, I know, but there's some times that it won't work out that way. And I have to remind myself that you. You are being led. You're not. You know what I mean? So if the creator ain't saying it's time, it's like, I just got to be patient. But then it all flows like, how we're here, you know? Because, again, I truly believe life is designed so it's nothing we really need to worry about. We just have to sit still, listen, and be led.

[12:38] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah. And what was the most profound spiritual moment in your life after four car.

[12:46] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Accidents later, and I'm still on the go, and I'm going to go pick up another car, and the lone guy was like, I just had to meet you because you just had four total car accidents. You're here again. You don't got a scratch on you. And it was just the way that he did that, it really made me sit back a little bit. Like, hold up. He's right, you know. Cause there's people literally dying. And it made me have to sit still and really just be thankful and be humble. And I broke down into. I know I say I don't cry. I don't think I cry in public, though. But it made me break down because I realized he was there the whole time, and that's what forced me to fasten. Right? And when I went and I fast and I said, okay, I made my house into a cave because I wanted to do it just like the people in the. In the Bible. And I had this. What they call it. What they call it, maybe epiphany, like an out of body experience.

[13:52] VANESSA YOUNG: Oh.

[13:53] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: So I forgot what they call that. But I was laying there, no food, no water. I think I'm on day two, and I'm like, lord, I don't know if I'm gonna bake it. I put on some testimonies on YouTube, and then next thing you know, I felt like I was in space, right? But I felt this warming feeling, like God was present. I didn't see nothing, but I felt it. And I remember looking on my arm because I have a tattoo of faith on it, and it looked like little tv screens of my life, right? And then I just started crying. Cause I'm like, dang it. Almost like I got a glimpse of the kind of angel I was. And I felt like I was a warrior for God. Like, set me down, God. Satan, challenge you. I got you. Set me down. And then I came down to earth and went boy crazy, right? So I started crying. I was in shame, and I was like, don't worry. Send me back again. I got you. And then I feel like my journey started ever since then.

[14:56] VANESSA YOUNG: Wow. Wow. Well, my next question was, when you meet God, what do you want to say to him? But it sounds like you've already got that covered.

[15:04] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I just hope he proud of me. That's all I can say.

[15:07] VANESSA YOUNG: Yes, yes. Can you tell us more about your ethnic background?

[15:12] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: So, my family is from Jamaica, which I've been raised with the stories of Arawak, Indian and Maroons, because both my mom and dad is from Jamaica. So I remember I used to have this babysitter. She was like an older, older lady at that age. She felt like 100 years old, but she probably was maybe like 80 something. And I remember she always put us to take a nap and then wake us up right before we would eat. She would be like, don't forget, Christopher Columbus did not discover Jamaica. And I'm like, why is she telling us this? But it's so funny how it's ringing in our head now to just know the truth about everything and why it was important to know about the arawaks and all that. Even I found out my aunt is holding my grandmother's Bible, which has, like, our birth dates and weddings and all kind of stuff. So it's just really cool to now appreciate the history that our family used to teach us about all that.

[16:19] VANESSA YOUNG: And have you ever been to the place that your parents are from?

[16:24] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Yes. Well, my mom's side. Okay, so my mom is from Trelawny and that's more, like country ish, what they would consider country. My dad is from Portland, which is more the city side, but we haven't gone, only because my dad, he lost his father pretty young, and he just doesn't talk about the past, you know, people who passed away. Even if I try to ask him certain stuff, he'd be like, it's disrespectful to talk about the dad, you know? And I'm just like, so how am I supposed to know exactly? But my aunts, they have been just really forced coming with that kind of information. When I did go to Jamaica, though, it's beautiful. I just gotta be more in tune with it because I was born here, so I'm more americanized and from there. And my grandfather's house is still there. My aunt is fixing it up now.

[17:22] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah.

[17:23] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: And he built that house with his bare hands.

[17:25] VANESSA YOUNG: Yes. Women be holding down the fort, don't they?

[17:28] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I'm trying to tell you, speaking of.

[17:32] VANESSA YOUNG: Women holding down the fort, what kind of traditions have been passed down in your family? And what traditions do you hope to pass down to future generations?

[17:43] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: The food, for one. The culture of just west indian living, the stories of Arabic Indians and maroons and how they were able to overcome certain things. And I'm like, that's why I'm a little rebellious. Huh? Okay. And my mom, she has hand knitted a blanket with a bunch of colors. So I attribute that to, like, when Jacob gave Joseph the color of coats. I'm like, oh, this is ours. You know? So we have that. My aunt is holding the bible for the family, and then I just tell them different stories that we know of as they come, because, you know, there's stories for everything. This uncle, that cousin. So I just pass all that down.

[18:30] VANESSA YOUNG: I think one thing that we don't have in our culture as much is this idea of a rites of passage. And I know you and I talked about a coronation. Can you tell us more about what your vision is for our coronation for the Lock nation?

[18:47] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: So I believe that we're going to go through a priesthood sort of like our rites of passage as leadership. And then I set the guidelines for the culture and what our culture is and just kind of retrain that thought process and just kind of bring the village together so that our girls will be properly presented and trained, and our boys will be properly presented and trained. And I feel like without just having something for them to thrive to and look up to, it's like, I'm here, right? But once they have to go through a set of challenges and have to show worthiness of and to graduate to something else, I think that that's gonna definitely help us to unlearn and relearn all the damage that has been done.

[19:40] VANESSA YOUNG: It feels very much like having people determine kind of their sense of purpose, which we tend to.

[19:49] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: We don't have it. It's like, plug in here, plug in here. But in all actuality, it's like, why do we go through this trail of hurt when our purpose was already given, right? So God gave each of us this creative ability. Cause he's creative. Naturally, we're creative, but we have kind of been taught to quiet that down, plug in with a title, and then we're miserable when all we had to do was put that focus on that creative piece. Like, if you know how to write or journal, right? Because our passions is also our therapy, in the same token. So just like, I homeschool now, so I support what I watch, and I see that, okay, they're drawn to this. Let's put some more fuel on this passion, right? And let that be your vehicle through life, because your wealth will also be where your heart is. And so what other thing can you put focus on than what you love to do?

[20:49] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah. When you mentioned therapy, I just instantly thought about some of our conversation about traditional PTSD and seeing PTSD. Can you just break that down a little bit? And what your vision is for people who've experienced that post traumatic stress disorder in the complex?

[21:14] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Post traumatic stress disorder, I think we all are struggling with CPTSD, and it's not no fault of ours, but just what is, right? Because if we go back in history to the illegal slave trade, that's trauma, right? If you go to therapy just for a car accident or let's say, God forbid, you were raped. The first thing they say is to go get some kind of therapy. Now, all that went on with the illegal slave trade and then they happened to just get released with no therapy. Those same people were the ones training the minds of the next generation. And then, not to mention the environment still wasn't exactly correct. Right. So you're still dealing with all the unruliness of your surroundings environment. Then you have the authorities that might be targeting you. Then on top of all of that, then you get in a car accident, which is trauma on top of trauma. And then you're still now training the next mind or the next generation from that mind. So there's no wonder why it keep on happening. And then we're kind of like drawn to just negative things because they. I forget what the terminology, but it's like if you're around your abuser long enough, you become to love the abuse of. Right. So we're kind of in that space. But since COVID happened, there has been like this change happening where we're taking on now that self healing and applying it. And the funny thing is, one of the solutions to CPTSD is to write about it, is to talk about it. And now with social media, I feel like we're being able to do that and feeling like it's a safe place to do that, right. Cause so many people now are crying on camera, so many people are telling their stories, many people are sharing them in the parks and stuff like that, which is awesome, because now when you increase your frequency from that healing place, you attract better situations, you attract better people in your life. So now you're not like, everybody's stealing from me. No, that's your tv show, right? You were operating from that frequency. Oh, everybody's this. No, that was your tv show. So the more that we're individually healing, the more that we're attracting better spaces. So I just urge to like moments like this. Sharing your story helps, right? Journal writing helps. So I think we're going to be in a better place real soon, honestly.

[23:41] VANESSA YOUNG: Awesome. So I guess my next question is, how do you want to be remembered?

[23:52] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I look up to, like, people like Gandhi and people like that. I just want to. I just want to influence the next generation and say it's okay to be your authentic self. It's okay to have a vision. And no matter how weird or extravagant that it may appear, that you can create that reality for you. Right? Because. Because nobody knows what the future holds. All you know is the steps that you can make towards it, right? So every life that I touch, I may not know it or not, but I just strive to build that legacy. And that legacy would just be how I positively reached a person. Like, that matters to me, because I can. I have a way of seeing a. I can see and feel the pain, if that makes sense. I can see and feel the struggle, right? So when a person is talking to me, I can also know that based in that conversation, if that mental block was unlocked, right. It's almost like I get these goosebumps and I'm like, oh, they got it. Right. So that's my nourishment right there. I mean, I don't know how else to describe that. When I know that they got it and they're onto the better them, then that's my memory.

[25:27] VANESSA YOUNG: Appreciate that.

[25:28] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Yeah, that's my memory.

[25:31] VANESSA YOUNG: Now, we weren't necessarily going to talk about work so much, because we're always working on so many things. But I think it is important to talk about how you got into your line of work, both of the hands on, of the styling and all that, and also the. Your life's work. So if you can tell us more about how you got into it, that would be awesome.

[25:57] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I've been working since eleven, and all the different things that I've done, I feel like I was searching for that comfortable space because I was like, if I ain't signed up to work a job, but if I got to do it, I want to at least enjoy it, right? So I've been an EMT. I've been an accountant. I've been, you know, a realtor. And so I got into real estate and thought I loved it because I was there for, like, 14 years. And then I got super stressed, and I was like, this ain't it, right? And it was an ex coworker of mine that we kept in conversation. She was like, why don't you just. Just do hair? And I was like, me do hair? No, but I had locs. And I was doing locs for people that I knew. So I was like, maybe I can. Because, you know, if you're not paying attention, you really don't realize how many people have locs for real until you intentionally open your eyes and be like, whoa, it's a whole lot of people with locs for real. So that began the journey of me doing other people's locs. And through that, that moment is when I learned so much about myself. And then through those moments, I realized, whoa, it's a thing here. Like, I felt like I was handed the assignment of Nahua's ark. Remember when I had that board with all these goals, and I was like, we can all do it, and we just do a 60 40 split and it can grow because we don't know what's going on, but we need to come together. And then everybody was like, that's nice, queen. And I'm like, no, I'm not looking for accolades. I'm looking for action, right? And then I was like, no. And then I got this message. It was like, okay, they're not moving because they got to see you move. And I'm like, I didn't want to. It's easier to just help people with their stuff, right? But once I realized I had to do it, I was like, oh, okay. So then the first book, the locks link to spirituality, came out, and I was like, that was cool, but it didn't feel like a real book, right. And then I was introduced to some sovereign people, and I was like, this sounds great, you know, with the freedom and all that. And I was like, but there's something off here. And so that invoked me to do more research, and I started to teach myself law, and that's when my mind really opened up, and I was like, there's nobody holding any information from you. There's no they. We literally have to do the homework and read it because everything is public information. Is there stuff that there's, like, friction? Yes. But everything really is public information, down to forms that we need, down to whatever it is that we need. Everything is there. It's under acts. It's just not worded the way that we're looking for something, per se. So everything is categorized. So, once I realized that, I was like. I went through a tornado of emotions. I was like, you mean to tell me people are dying for no reason? You mean to tell me this, but at the end of the day, we all got to be accountable for what, right? So we can say we're busy all day, but we do have to take that time to learn whatever information that we do want to learn. And I just applied it to the book, so I declared what we need to declare so that we can rightfully be treated accordingly.

[29:32] VANESSA YOUNG: Mm. Wow. Hence, Queen. How did you come up? When did you decide to call yourself Queen?

[29:39] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I didn't.

[29:40] VANESSA YOUNG: When did. When did that. I need to know the backstory. So, how long have you. I've been addressed as such.

[29:46] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I came to Georgia. It's probably like eight years now. And I was doing proper. Remember, I was in real estate when I first came and I had joined this property management company because I didn't understand how they do it differently than New York. So I was like, all right, I'll work here. And then I remember my regional kept calling me queen. And I was like, no, my name is Christina. And he was like, all right, queen, come over here. So I was like, all right, it's gonna. He's just gonna call me this. It is what it is. And then I noticed every time I introduced myself as Christina, they all turned around and started calling me queen. So I'm like, this is a thing, I guess, right?

[30:25] VANESSA YOUNG: You don't look like a Christina.

[30:27] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: You look like queen. And you know what's funny? My mom named me Christina, so she was like. She was in fear that I wouldn't get a job if, you know, I guess, in that timeframe. So it's like, I'm Christina. My brother's Christopher, my other brother's Gregory. And I was like, we don't look nothing like any of that. But she's like, I needed y'all to be able to get a job. And I'm like, isn't that sad that we had to do that? But when I got here is when everybody called me queen. So when I switched over to do locs, it just kind of stuck. And it just kind of stuck. Even now when I tell people my name is we gonna call you queen? I'm like, okay, well, y'all see something that I don't. But in learning history, like, in african cultures, that's how they named you anyway, based off of personality and all that stuff. So it's like, okay, well, the community is seeing something that I'm not seeing, so, hey, it is what it is, and I think I'm growing into the title.

[31:30] VANESSA YOUNG: Absolutely. I would totally agree. What lessons has your work life taught you? So many lessons.

[31:38] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I've heard all of them. Man.

[31:40] VANESSA YOUNG: Pick a good, juicy one.

[31:41] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Man. What lessons? I feel like they all taught me something. You know what? Okay. I feel like they all taught me business. I feel like it all taught me there's system is just. What is the focus that's different. But it taught me how calendars are super important, and I was able to just apply it all to everything that I need to do to keep me organized. Because when you are, you know, an entrepreneur, you're kind of like a free spirit, and you need something to keep you steady and afloat. Like a free bird.

[32:26] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah, absolutely. If you could do anything now, what would you do and why?

[32:34] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I would create state of lock nation right now. Right now.

[32:40] VANESSA YOUNG: Why?

[32:41] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Because it's needed. I think it would be beautiful. And I think that we can build a lot of beautiful things when we get together and do what we do, because everything we do is amazing.

[32:55] VANESSA YOUNG: Agreed. Do you plan on retiring, and if so, when and how do you feel about it?

[33:01] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I feel like I am retired.

[33:04] VANESSA YOUNG: Hmm.

[33:05] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I don't operate on nobody else's flow, so I'm living now. I'm living. I made my freedom, and I enjoy everything that I do.

[33:16] VANESSA YOUNG: Well, you answered my question about how you feel about it.

[33:19] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Yeah, I do everything that I do. Is it good and bad days? Yeah, like anything. But you can appreciate the good without the bad. You can't appreciate the bad without the good. So, you know, it's all about perspective. And growth is never ending. So I just focus on that. Just continue to be a better me and sometime a bad me. It just depends.

[33:44] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay. And what were, what do you think your parents hopes and dreams for the future was for you? And do you feel like you're in alignment? Uh uh.

[33:55] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I think they would.

[33:56] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay, well, then maybe. What are you.

[33:59] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: My dad was like, he was supposed to marry a doctor. I was like, but he would be never home.

[34:05] VANESSA YOUNG: Well, let me ask, what are your hopes and dreams for your future then? I feel like we answered a little bit. But I myself am a dreamer. I know that you are a dreamer. And I want you to just dream. Dream.

[34:18] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: You know, I wanted to be Jane in Tarzan. You know, I want to be somewhere in the mountains doing some yoga and just looking at a beautiful scenery. But most of all, I want to know that my kids don't have to feel the pain that I felt. And I feel like we all are feeling pain because it's hurt people, hurting people. So if I can change that perspective for people so that our kids ain't hurting each other because we're operating from a painful place, and that's really all that it is. Because everybody want love. That's the funny part. So if everybody want love, then what's the missing thing is just understanding that you were taught from pain, so you operate in pain. But if we can understand that we have control to change that so that our kids ain't doing it to each other, then, hmm. Yeah. What better life after that is there? We be the care bears. You ever watch the care beers? That was my favorite cartoon. And rainbow bright.

[35:27] VANESSA YOUNG: Speaking of those little heroes, I want to just end on. I wanted to end on a happy note. But I do want to talk about the biggest obstacles that you've overcome in your life? Can you speak to some of those, or what obstacles do you hope to overcome?

[35:42] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I've overcome abuse. Like, damn near every guy I got with went to fight. I was like, damn, I must be a strong woman or something. But I just realized now that it's just coming from that place of CPTSD. And I have overcome my own thoughts because, you know, being raised in a Jehovah witness household, and it was a strict household, it's like being in the world is different, you know, from what I was raised. You know, when you raised in a religious household, the community is different than the world's community. So it's like you going in the jungle for real, and just, you go into people that want to give them a big hug and they looking at you like what you want, you know? So just overcoming that and just being able to navigate in the world and building a community from that place and still remaining authentic with your heart, I think, is huge. I think that's major.

[36:48] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay. Okay. And is that also an obstacle that you want to overcome now, or is there something else that you'd like to overcome?

[36:56] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: My journey right now is the relationship side of it. Right. Because, you know, being as a single mom, I have not realized that my tongue was sharpen. So it was like, you speak defensively without knowing. So I learned to soften those words, and now I want to see, was I actually feminine at one time? I feel like I'm feminine, but I feel like my masculine side is a little higher. But then I'm learning about women pharaohs, and I'm like, you know what? I might be in the right place. So I'm working on being comfortable with just one person and not, like, four husbands.

[37:38] VANESSA YOUNG: So your obstacle is one husband, not four right now for the future. You don't know?

[37:43] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I don't know yet. That's the part that, you know, that's.

[37:47] VANESSA YOUNG: Another conversation for another day.

[37:50] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: I think it can happen for real, but I just have to figure out what that is because that's not your common, traditional type of situation, and I don't know if that's even a thing for real, like, but whatever is going to keep the peace and whatever's gonna be the betterment of the community, then that's where I need to be. So that's where. That's my current mental journey that I'm on. If you want me to be honest.

[38:17] VANESSA YOUNG: I appreciate the honesty. I absolutely do. I think that it's important for everyone to realize that everyone has a role in what our destiny might look like, and we don't know what that role looks like. I guess I think we just have a little bit of time for one last question or comment. Is there anything that you'd like to just share before we close out, or do you want me to go ahead and ask one more question?

[38:44] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: You got it. Okay.

[38:47] VANESSA YOUNG: Okay. So, tell me, what makes you smile? What makes you smile? About the Lock nation, about the future of Loc nation. About. Just tell me what makes you smile. What brings you joy?

[39:04] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: What brings me joy is when a person is, you know, sometimes they're talking, we'll be talking, and they be like, wow, I thought I was the only one thinking that. I thought I was losing my mind to be thinking. I'm like, no, you're in alignment. And just. And just for them to just share, like, oh, my God. Like, now when I think about something, it pops up, and this. And that is happening, and this person is going away. It's a breath of fresh air to be around like mindeds, and it's a positive thing, and I feel like it brings a person's childlike spirit out when that happens. And I just. I'm just like, you know, after the conversation, I'm like, yeah, they gets it now it's time for the next person. And, yeah, they get it now. It's time for the next person. So I think most of all, that they built that relationship with the creator because that's what's needed, period. And then once. Once they do genuinely build that relationship, then their life start to evolve in the right way. Yeah. So I think that absolutely brings me joy, knowing that they got that. Yeah. Cause, I mean, it changes your life. For real, so.

[40:17] VANESSA YOUNG: Yeah.

[40:17] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Yeah. What about you?

[40:19] VANESSA YOUNG: Ooh, that might be another time, another story, girl. You know, we only got a couple more seconds on this people thing. Well, check back in with me, though, next week.

[40:29] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: Next week. Stay tuned. Yeah. But I appreciate your time, and I appreciate you doing this with me. This is a very valuable moment, so relax. Sisters forever. So thank you so much.

[40:46] VANESSA YOUNG: Thank you, too, queen.

[40:48] YH EMPRESS QUEEN CHRISTINA CLEMENT: All righty.