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![Ava Ocker and Mardi Pennington](https://archive.storycorps.org/uploads/2023/07/6514893b34534__cte000563_g1-450x450.jpg)
Ava Ocker and Mardi Pennington
Mardi Pennington (74) interviews her goddaughter Ava Ocker (18) about her high school years and preparing to enter college.