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![Ken Hoeppner and Karina Ckless](https://archive.storycorps.org/uploads/2021/08/64f0f0b3f0bcf__hub000387_g1.jpg)
Ken Hoeppner and Karina Ckless
One Small Step partners Ken Hoeppner (79) and Karina Ckless (53) talk about their political values, who influenced their viewpoints, and their transition to living in rural Vermont.