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Stephen Rumbaugh and Kathryn Kurrelmeier-Lee

One Small Step partners Stephen Rumbaugh (54) and Kathryn "Shawn" Kurrelmeier-Lee (65) discuss their backgrounds, their roles in the education system, and their hopes for a more proactive and less divisive society.

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Catherine Montalbo and Linda Frost

One Small Step conversation partners Catherine Montalbo (60) and Linda Frost (59) talk about growing up in liberal and conservative households, changing their political beliefs, relocating to the south, and gender identity issues.