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Kaitlyn McMurtry and Richard Kirkpatrick

One Small Step conversation partners Kaitlyn "Katie" McMurtry (30) and Richard "Rick" Kirkpatrick (63) talk about their traumatic experiences. They share thoughts about religion and the roles of the government.

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Janine Getler and Mary Holderman

One Small Step conversation partners Janine Getler (62) and Mary Holderman (43) discuss each of their efforts towards helping people who need housing, boundaries with family and politics, and their ties to unions.