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49:47
Karen Pell and John Byrnes
One Small Step partners Karen Pell (69) and John Byrnes (57) talk about the partisan divide, their connections to the military, and the debate around gun control.
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Janine Getler and Mary Holderman
One Small Step conversation partners Janine Getler (62) and Mary Holderman (43) discuss each of their efforts towards helping people who need housing, boundaries with family and politics, and their ties to unions.